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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:21 AM Jul 2022

Well, Duh...recent polling suggests support for Brexit in the UK has collapsed ...

Collapsing public support suggests Brexit is anything but done
Most people think Brexit has gone badly, a UK survey finds, and Johnson has left behind a mess of problems for a new PM

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....most worrying of all for those who are protective of Johnson’s Brexit legacy is the changing face of public opinion. The latest YouGov poll has found that every region of the UK now believes Brexit was an error, with 55% of those questioned believing that Brexit has gone badly compared with 33% who say it has gone well.

Few in Westminster, beyond the Liberal Democrats, are suggesting that the UK is poised to rejoin the EU. But the very manner in which Brexit was “done” appears to have left it brittle, the polls suggest. Britain’s relationship with the 27 EU member states remains a stubbornly open question. For those who believe that Britain’s destiny remains as free-wheeling country outside the EU’s single market and customs union, there can be little confidence that anything on that front has been settled.

The payoff for this autonomy from the EU’s rules and regulations was to be a welter of trade deals around the world that offered greater access for British goods in emerging markets, along with a bonfire of regulations in the City of London that would make it more competitive.

But such has been the lack of progress on such aims that Jacob Rees-Mogg, the former Commons leader, felt forced during Johnson’s prolonged fight to stay in Downing Street to warn Tory MPs thinking of voting no confidence that Brexit might yet be thwarted. Perhaps more significantly, the lack of a Brexit dividend since 23 June 2016 has led others sympathetic to Brexit to reconsider whether the deals struck really are optimal. Tory MEP Dan Hannan mused recently that retaining membership of the single market may have been a better option.

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/08/collapsing-public-support-suggests-brexit-is-anything-but-done
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Well, Duh...recent polling suggests support for Brexit in the UK has collapsed ... (Original Post) kpete Jul 2022 OP
oompaloompa gets in office, fucks everything up, leaves a mess. Sound familiar? CurtEastPoint Jul 2022 #1
That Russian backed leader thing just keeps falling apart underpants Jul 2022 #4
It is almost like Putin DOESN'T have our best interests in mind. FSogol Jul 2022 #5
Hard to imagine coming from such a "genius". Nt underpants Jul 2022 #6
"Public Sentiment" empedocles Jul 2022 #2
Can Brexit be rescinded? no_hypocrisy Jul 2022 #3
I don't believe it can jimfields33 Jul 2022 #9
No, and any application by the UK to rejoin would be both very unlikely, and poorly received muriel_volestrangler Jul 2022 #11
We patrons of democracy and diversity told you. STRONGER TOGETHER. WEAKENED BY DIVISION Samrob Jul 2022 #7
Russian propaganda . . Lovie777 Jul 2022 #8
The EU has been a mixed blessing Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #10

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
11. No, and any application by the UK to rejoin would be both very unlikely, and poorly received
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 09:38 AM
Jul 2022

Starmer, the Labour leader, has just said he has no intention of applying to rejoin the customs union or single market, let alone ask for full membership again. So it would be a minimum of 2 general elections before that could possibly happen. And at least while this bunch of Tories are in power or look likely to get back in again, EU members will remember their dishonesty about the Northern Ireland Protocol, and would not want a country that can do that as a member.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
10. The EU has been a mixed blessing
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jul 2022

The establishment of the EU makes it easier for corporations and banks to bribe, manipulate and take control of the economics of several countries at a time. It's a way to establish regional monopolies across small European countries easier.

The EU brought us austerity and then pushed it onto most countries to make the middle class pick up the tab for the crash. Look what they did to Greece. They were a stabilizing force during the crash of 2008.

During the pandemic crash, they seem to be providing COVID funding to some extent. But then the filthy rich got richer while the gap between rich and poor increased during the pandemic in EU countries. At least they didn't dig up austerity again unlike in the US.

And the EU seems defenseless in the face of Russia attacking the Ukraine. So, the positives are more about consolidating and controlling Europe's wealth.

That said, it's dismantling is a disruptive and destructive tool used by the right wing to gain power in the UK. And it probably can be used in other countries to take control. But at least Brexit showed that it won't totally destroy a country if they withdraw from the EU. Too bad Greece didn't have the same political will in 2008.

Not sure going back to the EU for the UK would not be just as disruptive as going through Brexit.

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