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dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 11:52 AM Jul 2022

Gun applicants in NY will have to hand over social accounts

https://apnews.com/article/technology-new-york-social-media-gun-politics-bd1fba804dfa2adb347c74bb6e52d2b0

Gun applicants in NY will have to hand over social accounts
By MARINA VILLENEUVE and MAYSOON KHAN

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — As missed warning signs pile up in investigations of mass killings, New York state is rolling out a novel strategy to screen applicants for gun permits. People seeking to carry concealed handguns will be required to hand over their social media accounts for a review of their “character and conduct.”

It’s an approach applauded by many Democrats and national gun control advocacy groups, but some experts have raised questions about how the law will be enforced and address free speech concerns.

Some of the local officials who will be tasked with reviewing the social media content also are asking whether they’ll have the resources and, in some cases, whether the law is even constitutional.

Sheriffs haven’t received additional money or staffing to handle a new application process, said Peter Kehoe, the executive director of the New York Sheriffs’ Association. The law, he asserted, infringes on Second Amendment rights, and while applicants must list their social media accounts, he doesn’t think local officials will necessarily look at them.

“I don’t think we would do that,” Kehoe said. “I think it would be a constitutional invasion of privacy.”
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Gun applicants in NY will have to hand over social accounts (Original Post) dalton99a Jul 2022 OP
Threatening to kill people IS NOT FREE SPEECH. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #1
Not sure how they square this with the SCOTUS ruling DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #2
But the Subversive Court ruled there is no right of privacy! Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #7
Right to privacy, or the lack of, has nothing to do with this DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #8
The answer to objectionable speech is more speech ... Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #9
Well, This Is About as Unconstitutional as It Gets. ruet Jul 2022 #3
That's an excellent point. LisaM Jul 2022 #5
Does one need a permit in NY to get an AR15? Kaleva Jul 2022 #4
Horrific Polybius Jul 2022 #6
+1000 Celerity Jul 2022 #10

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
2. Not sure how they square this with the SCOTUS ruling
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jul 2022

Anything subjective is a no go. Judging "character and conduct" is easily argued as subjective. The only thing that may save it is if they are looking specifically for actionable threats.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
8. Right to privacy, or the lack of, has nothing to do with this
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jul 2022

Based on this law, granting a license is still being based on a subjective judgement, which is not Constitutional. NY is going to get their law overturned again.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
9. The answer to objectionable speech is more speech ...
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jul 2022

Let NY and all sensible states keep writing such laws until Roberts, et. al., concede defeat.

I don't think we can wait for another Thurgood Marshall to lead them to a logical conclusion, especially since they do not appear to give credence to logic, law, or precedent.

ruet

(10,039 posts)
3. Well, This Is About as Unconstitutional as It Gets.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 12:03 PM
Jul 2022

If, rather than outlawing it entirely, red states used this methodology to regulate abortion; would that be acceptable to anyone?


Dumb
Dumb
Dumb

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
4. Does one need a permit in NY to get an AR15?
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jul 2022

?And how many mass shooters have been deterred because of a state's concealed weapon law? Zero?

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