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When Alabama nurse Melissa went to pick up her regular prescription for rheumatoid arthritis last week, she was told the drug was "on hold" while the pharmacist checked she wasn't going to use it to induce an abortion.
"He said, 'Well I have to verify if you're on any contraceptives to prevent pregnancy.' The hell you do," she recalled thinking.
Melissa -- who is in her early forties and asked to be identified only by her first name for fear that speaking out might affect her livelihood -- then called her doctor, who succeeded in having the pharmacy in the southern US state release the medicine.
"I picked it up a couple hours later, but I felt violated," she told AFP, explaining she had had a hysterectomy six years ago, and that her lack of recent contraceptive history may have led the pharmacist to suspect she was pregnant.
https://news.yahoo.com/us-abortion-ruling-threatens-access-011837332.html
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)dchill
(38,503 posts)wnylib
(21,486 posts)Abigail_Adams
(304 posts)No pharmacist should have that power. Nor should the ones who have tried to refuse to fill contraception and emergency contraception scripts in the past. A legal medication prescribed by doctor must be provided; the pharmacist's fee-fees don't matter one whit.
Danmel
(4,915 posts)they are offering to help if anyone is having trouble and they even have a Spanish speaking expert. "We fully respect your right to privacy."
walkingman
(7,628 posts)out of medical decisions. Medical treatment should be decided between the person and their doctor.
I have experienced the problem myself with anxiety medication.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...and we would be packing up....
IbogaProject
(2,816 posts)FDA approved medicine prescribed by a Doctor it is unconscionable that any flunkie politicians or right wing activists get in the way of some one treating their condition.
I'm a Type 1 diabetic I've faced a situation where I can buy insulin w/o a script but the pharmacist won't sell even 10 needles even in a state w mandated needle access.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Folks with auto immune diseases need to take what their specialists are prescribing them.
Metho didn't work for mine (A.S.) but it is WONDERFUL for my mom's R.A.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Diamond_Dog
(32,005 posts)It is SO *NOT* their business!
Is the pharmacy afraid that we immoral and ruthless women are running around now trying to induce abortions just for fun?? GAH!
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)HuskyOffset
(889 posts)Drill sergeants, am I right?
Celerity
(43,408 posts)White House Proposes Slight Boost in Aid for Afghan Forces
https://www.voanews.com/a/south-central-asia_white-house-proposes-slight-boost-aid-afghan-forces/6206351.html
May 28, 2021
The United States is hoping more money will help make up for the absence of U.S. combat troops on the ground in Afghanistan.
U.S. President Joe Biden on Friday unveiled his proposed $715 billion defense budget for fiscal year 2022, including $3.3 billion for Afghan forces. The request is $300 million more than what the U.S. gave Afghanistan this past fiscal year. If approved by Congress, the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund money would help cover equipment and training requirements, as well as infrastructure, for the 352,000 members of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces.
"We believe that given that we're pulling out of Afghanistan, we need to provide some additional security support for the forces there," Anne McAndrew, the Pentagon's acting Under Secretary of Defense and Chief Financial Officer, told reporters.
Military planners are also requesting $8.9 billion to cover so-called "direct war costs" in Afghanistan, about a $4 billion reduction from the previous year.
McAndrew said some of that money will help cover residual expenses from the current withdrawal from Afghanistan as well as help pay for "an over-the-horizon capability outside Afghanistan."
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lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)No one should have to prove their fertility status to a drug store clerk. That is strictly doctor/patient.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)TygrBright
(20,760 posts)I'm not suggesting anything else.
Just buy 'em.
And carry 'em.
That's all.
disgustedly,
Bright
( for those who can't figure that out)
wnylib
(21,486 posts)Never knew that.
Now I wonder if women with rheumatoid arthritis who have children endured arthritic pain throughout their pregnancies in order to carry to term.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)one woman I knew who had arthritis, had no arthritis pain while she was pregnant.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)My two pregnancies - my A.S. symptoms went away. A.S. and R.A. are similar - just different attack points.
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But Alabama can hold up your prescription until you provide a satisfactory reason for it.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Guess that's how they justify it.
DUNNO?
LoisB
(7,206 posts)Being sarcastic, I don't know if anyone still sells or uses wire hangers but the whole thing is just so absurd.
leftieNanner
(15,121 posts)Taking a pregnancy test before being allowed to pick up your shirts at the dry cleaner.
LoisB
(7,206 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)I'm just waiting for HIPAA to be invoked in abortion-related cases.
As I understand it, the care provider is legally obligated to keep the patient's diagnosis & treatment confidential.
Marcuse
(7,488 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/guidance/phi-reproductive-health/index.html
Its much more complicated than you understand. Sadly.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)as I recall, they have been nailed TWICE for selling pharmacy customers info and Rx info..............
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Its in the ACA it already existed, but was placed in the ACA as a compromise effort to get Obamacare passed.
As for overseas, this is AKA the global gag order. This means that even in war zones where women are routinely raped, American aid clinics are forbidden to even refer women to other places where they could get an abortion.
The global gag order is a political football that gets passed back and forth via Executive Orders Dubya re-instated it on his first day in office.
Long way around to respond to your statement about what are we fighting for.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that's also used for other conditions including as chemotherapy for cancer and to treat ectopic and other extra-uterine pregnancies. But I just learned it can be a very effective abortifacient properly administered in combination with misoprostol, and this kind of problem is concerning a bunch of people.
We're a smallish family, but we still have grown female relatives of childbearing age and another couple in early puberty and adolescence. Just realized I need to be aware of potential issues with it in case a subpoena for medication records is served someday.
GA, where most of us are, will probably soon have a law that severely restricts abortion after cardiac activity, around 16 weeks, and recognizes the fetus as a legal person with the rights of a person.
Layzeebeaver
(1,624 posts)And what the hell medication is she getting that can be used to induce an abortion?
Can a man get it? (The medicine not the pregnancy) I've got the same condition (Arthritis nor pregnancy).
And if so, will the pharmacist ask him if his wife is pregnant? Because if she is, and she gets ahold of it, then whoo boy! there's obviously an abortion just around the corner!!!
WTAF? Is there an equal protection element in play here? I'm only a wiki-lawyer by hobby. We need a non-wiki-lawyer to weigh in.
lostnfound
(16,180 posts)Does she have to prove that??
Layzeebeaver
(1,624 posts)it's madness, complete madness.
ashredux
(2,606 posts)These people are SICK, JUST PLAIN SICK
irisblue
(32,980 posts)Response to ashredux (Reply #26)
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MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)she WAS violated!!!!! I'm so freaking mad right now I could spit nails.
Truth_Serum
(14 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 8, 2022, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)
OMG - I know my BP is going up just thinking about this, and reading the Yahoo article. Absolutely infuriating!!!
I wonder if the pharmacist would like me to withhold their "fresh from the O.R." post-op medication - after all, I wouldn't want them to get addicted or anything, especially since it's "my call" whether or not to give them their pain med (well technically it is my call, but I don't withhold pain medications unless there's a damn good reason, like it's too soon, their respiration rate, or other medical indications. AND at that point - I'm calling the doctor about the patient.)
ETA: I'd bet a billion $ the pharmacist has NO issue dispensing Viagra, Cialis, etc.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)The doctors have to tell the pharmacist the condition being treated before the pharmacy can dispense the medicine? How does a patient keep their medical privacy in that case? If this condition is printed on the drug bottle label, then how does one keep it private?
People who take this medicine are usually on it long term. But when used as part of a cocktail to terminate pregnancy, it is prescribed only once for a brief duration. So, why should someone who's been on this medicine for a long time - using an auto-refill program - be required to tell the pharmacist why they need the medicine?
I think we're going to see a lot more unintended consequences of anti-abortion law. It'll turn out to be one of the right's worst hypocrisies regarding keeping government out of our private lives.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)Seems like a clear violation of the 14th Amendment.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 8, 2022, 02:54 PM - Edit history (1)
to whatever bills they could.
If it offends the medical providers effing conscience, he or she or they can refuse to fill your prescription or provide a service. That includes pharmacists, doctors, nurses, hospitals and clinics. That means anything and everything to do with reproductive care.
Every so often I need to be reminded of just how much I hated Bush/Cheney, and why.
Edited to add a phrase for clarity regarding what conscience clauses are for. Just for your lady parts. Wouldnt want you doing anything naughty without consequences, would we? Under His Eye.
"Conscience clauses" never, ever should have been enacted. I've heard about medical professionals doing this for decades. And agreed about Bush/Cheney!
An RN I went to nursing school with, and subsequently worked with at a hospital, refused to give her fresh post-op patient their pain medication during her night shift. She was of the Pentecostal religion. She decided to "pray" for and with the patient. So the patient suffered all night (up to 8 hrs.) I heard about this the next day after it happened, during my day shift. She was rightfully fired that day. This was before conscience clauses were enacted. Now she wouldn't be fired - another nurse would be asked to administer the pain med. Unreal. If you can't do ALL ASPECTS of the job, get out of the profession!
Marthe48
(16,975 posts)Do her meds by mail. Talk about fascist men sticking their dicks in where they don't belong.
Evolve Dammit
(16,741 posts)iemanja
(53,035 posts)Women who have no intent of getting an abortion will be killed through defensive health care, exactly like the GOP wants it. They are a party of murderers.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)What assholes!
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)On the other hand, if Melissa's doctor happened to be a woman, they probably wouldn't have believed her.
This is both bizarre and outrageous!
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)and talk to an attorney about HIPAA violations