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Old Salty Chief, OSC (SW) USN Ret
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Jul 8, 2022
I just watched the most disgusting thing I have ever seen
On CNN a woman being interviewed could not bring herself to say slavery is bad.
WTF is wrong with these people
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Here is the video these women wont even say slavery is bad
It is repulsive
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See woman's response when asked if teachers can say slavery is bad
11:20 AM · Jul 8, 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/see-womans-response-when-asked-if-teachers-can-say-slavery-is-bad/vi-AAZl31T?category=foryou
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)imagine that
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)(Did I really need that? )
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"So, if slavery isn't or wasn't bad, you wouldn't mind being enslaved yourself?"
I also like how the one person said that nothing is bad. I strongly suspect they go to church, and I wonder if they'd boldly proclaim that in next Sunday's service?
LonePirate
(13,425 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)probably 98% would have been sharecroppers barely eeking out a living off the land.
In their minds, they ALL would have been plantation owners.
Haggard Celine
(16,846 posts)a couple of hours of Gone With the Wind, between commercials. They are completely ignorant of the fact that plantation owners were a small sliver of southern society. They were the billionaires of their day. And not even all of the plantation owners were wealthy. A lot of them were heavily in debt much of the time. But you're right, most southern whites at that time lived very rudimentary lives. But these fools think they would have had 1000 slaves. That's the kind of people in Trumpland.
electric_blue68
(14,910 posts)after mentioning (American) slavery, I couldn't remember the word "sharecropper" and said something like- they do farm work and never make enough money to be able to leave.
Puts word back into memory banks.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)electric_blue68
(14,910 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)MagickMuffin
(15,943 posts)Not afraid to show their faces or their hatred. All right there out in the open.
Well at least we know what they look like. Let the judgment commence.
electric_blue68
(14,910 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)
the Unitarian Universalists, and others who actively fought against slavery, staffed the Underground Railroad by using their own homes to shelter escapees, and in other ways put their own lives and liberty on the line to help. I imagined I was them, not Simon Legree or Scarlett OHara.
What the hell is wrong with people?
Is the $64,000,000.00 question. I don't feel bad being white either. As a child or an adult. I do however acknowledge the atrocities committed by my white ancestors. It's like they think if they admit it was horrific and nine kinds of wrong, then that makes THEM personally responsible. No, WE are responsible for not continuing the hatred and vile behavior.
wnylib
(21,487 posts)things from before we were born. But we are responsible for how WE act in the present and what we leave for future generations.
brush
(53,787 posts)John Brown and abolitionists were heros in my book.
The wingers have planted their propaganda deep into these women's brains. And aren't they teachers who should know some history?
Haggard Celine
(16,846 posts)Seeing someone in slavery ought to make a person's skin crawl. How could anybody not find it reprehensible? And even if for no other reason than asking yourself how would I feel if I were a slave, it should never be tolerated or covered up for. These people are just plain yucky. Sometimes I wonder if this country is worth saving, but I remind myself that these people are a minority.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)but, let us not forget, that nearly EVERONE's ancestors in the U.S. today, were in the majority when they originally arrived in North America and proceeded to obliterate all the original Native Americans inhabitants of this land!
Just like the black slaves, we need to also recognize that the wiping out of the Native North American Indians was a massive genocide that was far greater than I think has ever been done by any other nation to it's inhabitants.........
Haggard Celine
(16,846 posts)They came here to a new land and proceeded to run off or kill the people who were already here. They moved into an area, negotiated for peace, and then broke every promise theyd made. And they did it over and over again. The people they didnt kill with guns or disease, they herded onto reservations. Theres nothing but ugliness in all of that. Its a wonder that all the Indians today arent terrorists. If they dont have a reason, no one does.
IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)know more american history than we do..... then Kamau goes on to mention history.... like slavery and native american genocide and then it's no no no.... not THAT history. they lack logic.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)The appeal of Conservatism is entirely emotional. Conservatism was born of Royalism. It is a very similar philosophy to the ideas that were around during the time of absolute monarchy and aristocracy. They merely changed the characteristics of the "chosen" or "ordained" people from blood nobility to those who accumulated vast wealth. So the aristocracy remained and wealthy merchants became the other side of the coin.
In order to continue to justify the wealth and power in limited hands, you have to have a strong method of getting people who will never be rich and powerful to support you. Hence the idea of racial and moral superiority. Convince the poor that they are at least better than Black and Brown people, and they will defend your ability to flaunt your wealth in their own faces.
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)Ladies, if your daughters were held in sexual slavery, would that be bad?
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)eom
Glamrock
(11,802 posts)I'm watching this country fall apart. Politically and socially. I am fed the fuck up, son. Fed the fuck up.
How is this even possible? And we're a "Christian nation"? Really? thank god the Old Testament is there to justify the excrement in a human being fucking bag that they happen to be. Un-fucking-believable. But I'm an optimist and generally a believer in the good of my fellow man, this is sincerely, truthfully, beyond comprehension to me. I can't wrap my mind around it.
My first reaction, that I was basically screaming at poor Mrs. Glam, was.....okay. Cool. When you get to work tomorrow, show up with another set of clothes and that's all you get. You don't get to go home. You will now be relegated to a shack. You can work 16 hours a day with no pay. If someone wants to rape you? Ya know, that's cool. If you mouth off or try to escape? Severe beatings, loss of limb, perhaps death. Oh and you can be shipped across the continent at a moments notice never to see you're family again. Now tell me that a teacher saying slavery is bad isn't cool with you.
And I calmed down, smoked a bowl....and it hit me. Like a goddamn meteor. These fucking @#$%^&*)(_*^$@!#^U*^$@#@$^^%$#@ (Feel free to fill that in, but it's pretty goddamn profane. Just sayin) .... It took me a minute, and I got distracted by the horrors we know that existed. Hence, the paragraph above. But my initial reaction missed the deeper point. It's not okay for these privileged white assholes to hear a teacher is saying it's wrong FOR A HUMAN BEING TO BE OWNED AS PROPERTY! WTAF dude?
They're three fucking WOMEN! Now, officially, second class citizens. WTAF man? WTAF?
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)...i would order that someone who won't acknowledge the evil of slavery never appear on the network agaon, and never even be quoted or discussed.
The inability to give a quick answer to that question demonstrates that person has nothing newsworthy to say.
Being ignored is a horrible, but deserved, fate to her type.
electric_blue68
(14,910 posts)Yeah, I know how these people are but GAH!
They shouldn't BE like that!
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)I was expecting at least a well, they got Christ, and their descendants here are lots better off than if they were in Africa today.
This is just straight up No! Don't talk about it!
irisblue
(32,980 posts)Those 4 women will vote
Ziggysmom
(3,409 posts)They won't admit they were wrong about tRumpass or anything their party did. They'd rather end up being slaves themselves than be "Owned by the libs"!
peppertree
(21,639 posts)They see themselves (as White Protestants without too many vowels in their last names) as a protected class, in what they hope is a fascist regime in the not too distant future.
But if they knew the first thing about dictatorships, they'd know that they seldom take long to become a proverbial snake eating its own tail.
And they'd definitely be the tail.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)is they are FUCKING RACIST ASSHOLES
PTWB
(4,131 posts)But to be honest, just teaching the facts about slavery will undoubtedly leave the students with the impression that slavery was bad, even if the teacher never offers a direct opinion on the subject.
The facts of slavery are that people of color were subjugated, tortured, raped, murdered, bred, bought, and soldthose facts speak to the horrors of slavery. No opinions are even necessary to teach that slavery was bad.
Nevilledog
(51,122 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)as I remember them calling them..........
Solomon
(12,311 posts)were better off because of slavery. That the masters were benevolent and kind and that the darkies were happy.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)If slavery was such a good situation for black people, why weren't dirt poor whites signing up? < crickets >
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)joining together and coming for them. Guess racism and Southern Strategy took care of that. Now vilification has become ingrained and the divide is stark.
Bluethroughu
(5,172 posts)IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)just like a lot of societal problems aren't a problem for people who aren't impacted by it. And denied by people who benefit from it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)looked a lot different, I have been astonished to realize I was born white.
I don't claim any kind of special connection or understanding of Black people. But the randomness of where I was born, what race I was born to, heck even my ethnicity (Irish as in all four grandparents came from Ireland) has been at the front of my mind since I was about three years old.
And no, I'm not exaggerating. I can remember stuff that happened before I turned two, and have lots of coherent and cohesive memories from age three. There were very few Black people where I was, and I certainly had zero understanding of race and the nuances thereof, but I kept on being surprised that I had not been born Black.
And yeah, to anyone who says that slavery wasn't so bad, I say sell them into slavery.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Nevilledog
(51,122 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)sir pball
(4,743 posts)She'd change her position on "slavery" real fast after all, forcing a woman to use her body to gestate an unwanted fetus is slavery in every sense of the word.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)No wonder they can side with a sociopath like TFG. These people have no moral center. No ethics. How did they get this way?