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berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 05:53 PM Jul 2022

I got my little sister back

My little sister has been a die hard trumper since 2016. We haven't spoken much the past few years because I'd rather not fight with her.

However, since June 22 we have been talking nearly every day.

Keep in mind, she's only 25, white, naturally blonde, and completely aloof to her privilege. She's always been pro choice, but hasn't been vocal until recently.

She has done a complete 360 on her political views since Roe was overturned. She told me how she now understands why Democrats were so upset that Hillary lost. She now understands that the SCOTUS was at stake, along with our rights.

She's acknowledged Kavanaugh and Barrett both lied under oath in their confirmation hearings. She also thinks they should be impeached.

Also, she's acknowledging the BLM movement as a civil rights movement and supports gay marriage.

She's had quite the shock to her young and naive ideologies.

I hope this is not an uncommon occurrence around the nation. Women are MAD.

Reach out to the women you might've written off. You may find an unexpected ally.

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I got my little sister back (Original Post) berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 OP
Amazing good news !!! I hope she can spread the word.... Karadeniz Jul 2022 #1
She's definitely not shy berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #4
Glad you got her back. Women are pissed around the naiton. brush Jul 2022 #64
So she finally understands what Blacks have been complaining about after... AllTooEasy Jul 2022 #78
I am thrilled for both you and her. irisblue Jul 2022 #2
Thanks ! berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #6
OOooooooooooH LIKE that!!! calimary Jul 2022 #28
Nevertheless, she persisted berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #32
Persisterhood...what a great turn of phrase. brush Jul 2022 #67
I think Eleizabeth Warren coined it berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #74
Woot woot! onecaliberal Jul 2022 #3
Thanks berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #18
Congrats and great story. Claustrum Jul 2022 #5
She was againstfor anything drumpf was againstfor berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #11
Congrats.... it must be like seeing your sister leaving a cult that was damaging her. albacore Jul 2022 #7
See my reply above berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #24
Such *wonderful* news! Enjoy your reconnection! electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #8
Thanks berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #26
This is great news! I'm glad you got her back. LoisB Jul 2022 #9
Me too berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #29
So good to hear claudette Jul 2022 #10
Shes now a vote against Huckabee and Tom cotton berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #15
👏👏👏👏👏👏 irisblue Jul 2022 #22
Welcome To DU, Claudette! ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #49
Thank you! claudette Jul 2022 #62
"She has done a complete 360 on her political views since Roe was overturned." ARPad95 Jul 2022 #12
I'm a hillbilly damn it! berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #13
Mine are off right now, but True Blue American Jul 2022 #86
A 360-degree spin on the highway will wake you up! nt Shermann Jul 2022 #19
That's fantastic! You almost never hear of this type of conversion. Does she have friends liberalla Jul 2022 #14
She's been vocal on FB and at work berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #27
Had to be a great feeling to see here come back! rurallib Jul 2022 #16
I hope more stories like mine are happening berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #31
Excellent! I hope this is a sign of awakening! Initech Jul 2022 #17
It is my most fervent hope.... berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #35
Great news, but don't exaggerate - her shift was "only" 180 degrees, not 360. :-) TheRickles Jul 2022 #20
I was gonna edit but screw you guys! berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #25
Oh hell, after pulling their heads out of the sand... lambchopp59 Jul 2022 #30
Wonderful news! Hekate Jul 2022 #21
Thanks berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #41
Good news Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #23
Oh noes!!! She's getting "woke"... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #33
She has a daughter and is adamant that she doesn't want more children berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #53
She should be afraid. They are definitely after birth control of all forms...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #57
She may have had friends leading her astray. Young women can be followers and try to Ziggysmom Jul 2022 #34
Great news. TomSlick Jul 2022 #36
wowowowowow! LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #37
Show your sister itsjstme's post. She'll go out of her mind Tadpole Raisin Jul 2022 #38
Desperation... lambchopp59 Jul 2022 #39
Hope you get better soon berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #89
Yaaaaaay! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #40
Thank you berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #45
damn you. i'd written off my trumpkin. mopinko Jul 2022 #42
Try again mo berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #46
nah. i dont want him back. mopinko Jul 2022 #48
Well, not to challenge your sense of spin packman Jul 2022 #43
Wouldn't a 360 make you look at yourself? berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #47
Only At 1.57078 Times The Speed Of Light ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #51
Best post today! Fills my heart moonscape Jul 2022 #44
Fantastic news! budkin Jul 2022 #50
Good for you, I hope she stays on the side of good now ;) One thing someone said that niggles in my OnDoutside Jul 2022 #52
That is so refreshing to hear. CivicGrief Jul 2022 #54
I am happy for you both. Any idea what media/ news sources made the difference? Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #55
Not really sure berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #58
So much information out there. I worry about all the blatant crap (lies) that can consume people. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #60
This is fantastic news!! DemUnleashed Jul 2022 #56
This is nice, but what the fuck took her so long? PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #59
I honestly think "the handmaid's tale" affected her deeply berniesandersmittens Jul 2022 #66
Interesting. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #70
I Wish I Could Say The Same WiVoter Jul 2022 #61
Glad to hear that. Jim__ Jul 2022 #63
You mean she's done a 180, if she did a 360, she would be right back to being a Trumper. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #65
Yeah! MLAA Jul 2022 #68
Happy for you mcar Jul 2022 #69
berniesandersmittens.... Upthevibe Jul 2022 #71
Did she really not believe TFG when he said he was nominating pro life judges? In It to Win It Jul 2022 #72
In It to Win It.... Upthevibe Jul 2022 #83
Coming out of ignorance is like rebirth. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #73
That must feel wonderful wryter2000 Jul 2022 #75
Thank you for your story. K&R mvd Jul 2022 #76
Sorry it took this to wake her IbogaProject Jul 2022 #77
Not so lucky here Alien Life Form Jul 2022 #79
That is so sad PatSeg Jul 2022 #80
Yes its frustrating Alien Life Form Jul 2022 #81
My sister got hooked on Fox News PatSeg Jul 2022 #82
One sad note Alien Life Form Jul 2022 #90
Yes and when that dawned on me, PatSeg Jul 2022 #91
same here Alien Life Form Jul 2022 #92
I remember my one nephew telling me PatSeg Jul 2022 #93
My son is the same damned way Alien Life Form Jul 2022 #94
Whoa, that's brutal PatSeg Jul 2022 #95
Brought a couple of tears... Raster Jul 2022 #84
Wonderful!! Saoirse9 Jul 2022 #85
I'm so happy for her, you and your family. Lunabell Jul 2022 #87
Too late sellitman Jul 2022 #88
I am glad that your little sister has seen the light LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #96

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
4. She's definitely not shy
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 05:59 PM
Jul 2022

I'm the introvert of my siblings. She's definitely the extrovert. I'm just so happy that she's using her loud mouth for the good side now lol

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
78. So she finally understands what Blacks have been complaining about after...
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 05:27 AM
Jul 2022

...her rights were infringed?

Hmmm. Yeah. OK.

I can easily guess her position regarding BLM after Roe is re-established. Blacks, especially Black women, have seen this movie before.

calimary

(81,320 posts)
28. OOooooooooooH LIKE that!!!
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jul 2022

"Sisterhood and Persisterhood!"

The second may be the most important. PERSISTENCE! If we give up, We. Are. LOST.

EVERYTHING will be LOST. This is NOT the time to be silent! Just figure it this way: that's what the bad guys want: for us to be silent. For us to meekly give in. For us to acquiesce, to cave to their preferences.

I WON'T.

brush

(53,787 posts)
67. Persisterhood...what a great turn of phrase.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:18 PM
Jul 2022

May it spread far and wide. Might consider copyrighting it.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
5. Congrats and great story.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:00 PM
Jul 2022

I am just curious. Was she against BLM and gay marriage before? Was Roe the single issue that made her changed?

Also, what drew her to TFG?

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
11. She was againstfor anything drumpf was againstfor
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jul 2022

I always thought she was lost in the cult.

Turns out, the cult lost her!

She never really spoke bad of BLM or Gay rights. Now it seems the real world opened her eyes and forced her to THINK for herself.

albacore

(2,399 posts)
7. Congrats.... it must be like seeing your sister leaving a cult that was damaging her.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:01 PM
Jul 2022

Wait....
That's exactly what trumpism is.
Anyway, congrats on getting your sister back from the brink.

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
24. See my reply above
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:18 PM
Jul 2022

It really is a cult. I'm hoping for a mass awakening. I think all of us here at DU are.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
12. "She has done a complete 360 on her political views since Roe was overturned."
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jul 2022

Congrats to her and you! However, it's a 180 degree change on her part. 360 degree means no change at all.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
86. Mine are off right now, but
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jul 2022

I want to praise your sister for the change. It is a part of growing up. Very happy for you and I understand women all over the country are crossing over.

You will never get the MSM TO SHOW IT. Couple of blurbs, then back to Joe Biden’s low ratings.

They really are a detriment to our Country.

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
14. That's fantastic! You almost never hear of this type of conversion. Does she have friends
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jul 2022

coming to the same conclusion? I hope we have many more of these stories coming out!

I'm happy for you, and I'm glad you posted about it. Thanks.

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
31. I hope more stories like mine are happening
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:25 PM
Jul 2022

As a member of the Persisterhood, I am so stoked to welcome my own sis to the cause!

Initech

(100,080 posts)
17. Excellent! I hope this is a sign of awakening!
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jul 2022

As to how evil these fuckers really are! Maybe more people will start waking up now!

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
35. It is my most fervent hope....
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:29 PM
Jul 2022

If there is an afterlife, I hope RBG is smiling at my little family story. Persisterhood!

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
30. Oh hell, after pulling their heads out of the sand...
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jul 2022

360 degrees can be a beautiful pirouette. Let em spin.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
33. Oh noes!!! She's getting "woke"...
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jul 2022


Sad that it took something fairly personal (as a young woman I'm sure she's cognizant of women's health issues) for her to have what looks like a change of heart. I hope many millions more "wake" up.

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
53. She has a daughter and is adamant that she doesn't want more children
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:01 PM
Jul 2022

She is really pissed that she has to have a man put his fingers in her in order to get birth control.

And she's afraid that banning birth control is coming soon.

Ziggysmom

(3,409 posts)
34. She may have had friends leading her astray. Young women can be followers and try to
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jul 2022

fit in with a group. I know I was shy about my feelings at that age. Now at 62 I don't give a fiddle what other people think. Congratulations on your relationship with your sister! Hold onto her tight!

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
36. Great news.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jul 2022

I continue to harbor hope for my brother. He was raised better but after a career in the Army and now living in Kansas, he is a full-on RWNJ.

I suspect woman will come to the light quicker than men - especially white men - but hope springs eternal.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
38. Show your sister itsjstme's post. She'll go out of her mind
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:37 PM
Jul 2022

(In a good way)! And better yet, she will spread it far and wide!

Why these TFG women don’t know these things already is beyond me but if they are now willing to think I love the idea of expanding their knowledge so that it becomes less likely they will revert back. We take advantage of every window of opportunity.

Congratulations on your sister regaining her sanity!!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216903275

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
39. Desperation...
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:40 PM
Jul 2022

The more the cult loses its grip on reality... the more tinfoil hats emerge in attempts to revive stupidity.
I suspect the more some hear rants against the "woke", massive gun violence incidents and goofball deflections such as "groomers" in the light of the Jan 6th hearings shattering the dreamscape...
Fixed News has become drilled down on the "Biden did that" song so monotonously... tiresomely... while reality is cracking from under them. At least every time I tune in there for 10 seconds it's the same stupid song.
Hopefully there are many, many more pulling their heads out of the sand. Trump-world is getting smaller and smaller.
I'm flat on my back recovering from surgery so there's the teevee.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
43. Well, not to challenge your sense of spin
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:47 PM
Jul 2022

360 spin would put her back to where she was originally - I believe she did a 180

Nevertheless - Great

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
47. Wouldn't a 360 make you look at yourself?
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jul 2022

If you did it fast enough?


Like I mentioned in an above reply.... Screw you guys! I'm a hillbilly!

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
52. Good for you, I hope she stays on the side of good now ;) One thing someone said that niggles in my
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:56 PM
Jul 2022

head (could have been Trevor Noah) was that a lot of Trumpers supported stuff until it affected them. Maybe this appears to be something like that ? Still, it's good news.

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
54. That is so refreshing to hear.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jul 2022

I have two older sisters who are pro-Trump and it kills me. I haven't talked to them recently, but I don't expect much has changed. I know one of them was pro-choice, but I don't know anymore.

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
58. Not really sure
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jul 2022

She watched OAN

I got a text from her saying that all we needed to officially be Gilead was an attack on Congress. I reminded her that happened on 1/6.


Her reaction was, oh yeah, that already happened.

It's a bit surreal to watch her wake up.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
59. This is nice, but what the fuck took her so long?
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jul 2022


Sadly, a lot of other women who are Trump supporters will finally see the light, but it's already too late.

berniesandersmittens

(11,343 posts)
66. I honestly think "the handmaid's tale" affected her deeply
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jul 2022

She keeps making references to the show. I wish logic and truth were what brought her to our side. But as they say, whatever works. Sometimes fiction reaches the mind before truth does.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
70. Interesting.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:08 PM
Jul 2022

Too bad she apparently doesn't read books. The Handmaid's Tale first was published in 1985. Before your sister was born.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,399 posts)
65. You mean she's done a 180, if she did a 360, she would be right back to being a Trumper.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:56 PM
Jul 2022

That being said, good for her for finally seeing the light and the truth.

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
71. berniesandersmittens....
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:22 PM
Jul 2022

Thanks for your post. I'm so happy your sister is back in your life.

I have an old friend who's back in my life as well. She was always Republican because her parents were and she was never into politics and just didn't pay attention.

Well, man....has she done an about face! She's freaked about Roe V. Wade. She has a 27 year old daughter who doesn't have her sh*t together at all and the thought of this young lady getting pregnant would be a disaster - They all live in Texas...

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
83. In It to Win It....
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jul 2022

The reality is that so many people are different from us.

My friend (as well as others') just never paid that much attention. She's always been one to love her outdoor life. Owned a plant company, hikes, bird watches, takes care of animals, etc.

There's no point in getting pissed off at her for the past. I'm just welcoming her now.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
75. That must feel wonderful
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:27 AM
Jul 2022

My siblings are liberals, so I don’t have trouble with them. But if one of them were a MAGAt, I’d be crushed. I can only imagine what it’s like to have your little sister back.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
77. Sorry it took this to wake her
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 02:46 AM
Jul 2022

Glad for you both never the less. Btw the phrase is "a complete 180" which is a complete reverse.

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
79. Not so lucky here
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jul 2022

My sister insists the election was stolen,,and among the proofs is the movie 2000 Mules by con man D'Sousa,,

She insists Biden is senile and Obama was a potential Hitler..

It goes on and on and you can fill in the rest..

We are not speaking..

And her daughters facebook is filled with the most hateful rants imaginable...

Too bad but that is the way she is

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
82. My sister got hooked on Fox News
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jul 2022

awhile back and it is really disturbing. I don't think she's gone too extreme, but she is very different from the person she used to be BF (before Fox). I make it a point to avoid anything political, but honestly, I just don't talk to her much these days.

One day recently I realized there is no one on the planet who has known me as long as she has and she doesn't really know me at all. Such a loss.

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
90. One sad note
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:43 AM
Jul 2022

We got into a fight the day I called her to wish her a Happy Birthday!
And you pointed out something I never thought of .I have not known anyone as long as I have known her and same with her to me..


PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
91. Yes and when that dawned on me,
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jul 2022

it was really overwhelming. Then when I looked back on our lives, I realized she really never knew me. We have very little in common besides a childhood and even our memories of that are quite different.

I still care of course and I am often the person she turns to when she needs understanding or insight. She went through a couple really bad periods and that was when she got plugged into Fox and all things right-wing. I can't help but wonder how different she might be without the day-to-day relentless brainwashing.

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
92. same here
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 08:47 AM
Jul 2022

My sister has always been a big FOX news fan. Her husband told me she watches FOX all day long, when she is not working, and is constantly commenting on how awful the Democrats are.

Its totally a waste of time trying to talk with her. She distorts what I say and believes all the damdest things.
Very sad and now we dont speak

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
93. I remember my one nephew telling me
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:15 AM
Jul 2022

that when he stayed with her, the TV was on all day tuned to Fox News. They managed to brainwash a huge chunk of the country. It was both brilliant and diabolical.

After 9/11 most Americans were watching a lot of cable news. I remember switching to different channels throughout the day as there was so much going on. Eventually I settled into MSNBC, but apparently many stayed with Fox and it became a habit.

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
94. My son is the same damned way
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jul 2022

He just got finished telling me I should respect those that differ with me..Ordinarily I would agree but at a certain point I draw the line.
I am not going to respect those that think Trump won the election. I told him this situation today is different. Democracy itself is under attack.
He refuses to see it..
I was at his house the other day and he told someone that the media would never have made such big deal of Covid if Trump was not the president and the woman he told that to agreed!
Make me sick!

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
95. Whoa, that's brutal
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jul 2022

I can respect people who disagree with me when we are talking about opinions or perspectives, but I can't respect those who embrace and spread lies and dishonesty. It isn't about politics or beliefs, it is about willful ignorance if the evidence and the truth is right in front of them.

I understand that many have been brainwashed, but I believe that often they are drawn to what they want to believe. Eventually they go so far down that crazy rabbit hole, there is no turning back and admitting they were wrong. I'm sure sociologists will be studying what has happened for decades to come.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
84. Brought a couple of tears...
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:22 AM
Jul 2022

Congratulations. I am holding out hope for one of my brothers.

It is downright amazing, and not in a good way, how many seemingly decent people fell for, and idolized, one of the worst human beings on the planet. tRump is a mean man, a cruel man. A sick and twisted man that should never be allowed near the reigns of power ever again.

Saoirse9

(3,680 posts)
85. Wonderful!!
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jul 2022

Thank you for sharing! Does my heart good. I wish I could have the same success with 3 of my siblings. Hope springs eternal.

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