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applegrove

(118,734 posts)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:04 PM Jul 2022

Democrats Hopeful for Spending Deal with Manchin

Democrats Hopeful for Spending Deal with Manchin

July 10, 2022 at 1:38 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 14 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/07/10/democrats-hopeful-for-spending-deal-with-manchin/

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“Senate Democrats are redoubling their efforts to finalize a new spending package that could lower health-care costs and combat climate change, hoping to hammer out a long-elusive deal with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and bring it to the chamber floor later this month,” the Washington Post reports.

“A new sense of optimism — and urgency — has set in among party lawmakers nearly seven months after their last attempt to pass a sweeping bill ended in stunning defeat. Piece by piece, Democratic leaders in recent days have started reconstructing their economic ambitions as they race to deliver on a staple element of President Biden’s agenda before the midterm elections in November.”

“So far, top Democrats have worked out with Manchin new agreements that would cut drug costs for seniors, improve the financial health of Medicare and close a tax loophole that benefits the wealthy. They even have advanced talks around addressing the challenges posed by a faster-warming planet, raising the prospect that they can secure a limited initiative to penalize methane emissions.”

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LakeArenal

(28,829 posts)
1. "....ended in stunning defeat." Not true.
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jul 2022

It was anticipated and not at all surprising due to opposition from Manchin. And what’s her name.

Press just always portrays Dems as defeated.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
3. One thing Trump always did "effectively" was claim to be winning all the time
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jul 2022

No matter what the score was, Trump (a true loser in every sense) would call it a win. If he only killed a couple hundred thousand more people than would have died if he hadn't made a political issue out of vaccination, that was, in Trump's sales spiel, a win. He even applied that approach to the election he lost.

Dems? We haven't learned to crow. We should be strutting and on the offense. That helps moderate the media. They think their job is to keep pushing and poking until someone starts to say ouch or push back. We should push back sooner.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
2. The problem is, you can count on Manchin to negotiate in bad faith...
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jul 2022

He’s notorious for it. We’ll compromise and compromise to reach a deal with him, only to have him flip-flop and announce his diehard opposition at the last minute. It happens every single time.

mvd

(65,178 posts)
6. Agree - my ideal plan would be bigger, but..
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jul 2022

if we add this to the abortion issue already out there, it improves our chances in the fall. It also makes much needed improvements.

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