As a member of the United Methodist Church.. I do not mess with anyones Catholic theological beliefs

[Peacetrain]

To each their own.. I do not mess with people who have no religious affiliation.. to each their own..

I am an American, and as an American I have freedom of choice in how I choose to practice

or not practice any religious belief.

I was once a member of the United Church of Christ.. but found that I had more of a connection with the the UMC and joined them.

The UCCs are fine, the UMCs are fine.. the Spaghetti Monsters are fine.. Catholics, Baptists Muslims, Buddhists, Jewish faith etc etc etc are all fine


THEY ARE NOT THE GOVERMENT.. they have no place in it.. in fact our ancestors got the hell out of England, Germany, etc. trying to get away from forced religious practices..

I cannot believe that I am reading that someone at a Walgreens refused to sell condoms to a married woman.. ITS NONE OF THEIR BUISNESS.. no one is forcing the Walgreen employee to use a condom, and the Walgreen employee does not have the right to force someone to live by their religious beliefs..

Stop just stop trying to rule our lives with your religious beliefs Walgreen employee.. Or if you can't.. Find a country where you can turn all your personal freedoms over too and march in step with the religious leaders.. no one is going to stop you..

[gopiscrap]

1. I am a CLM

have worked with the UMC for 14 years

[ShazzieB]

17. What's a CLM?

Just curious. I have no idea what that means, and googling just now wasn't helpful.

[gopiscrap]

27. Certified Lay Minister

you gom through training and then I was on the pastoral staff of a UMC congregation for 3 and a half years

[hoosierspud]

2. Former Roman Catholic,

Now UMC. I am so much more content and less angry as a Methodist. I love their emphasis on service. Plus, the founder believed that we would be reunited with our pets in heaven. We have to deal with the issue of LGBTQ members and its going to be painful and divisive, but we'll get through it.

[Model35mech]

3. The EFFECT is you may not buy something when you want it,

But I am rather certain in the mind of the refusing clerk the issue is argued as His or Her compliance to His or Her religious discipline, whether that's actually true or not.

The policy of Walgreens itself appears to be they allow their staff to make these decisions, and the customer is passed to someone more aligned to the customer's desire.

This is not a decision of the government of Wisconsin. Wisconsin's position is rather more like Walgreens. Refusing customers because of their beliefs seems like a violation of the social code of tolerance before angst. In general that's the code that allows grocery stores and quick marts to sell liquor even though some people in the community may be tea-totalers.

It really and truly -IS- a matter of intolerance. But as we know the US has become ever more intolerant in a sort of tit-for-tat manner. You don't like LGBTQ so you refuse to make them a wedding or birthday cake whether that's a religious code or not. You know you won't be challenged under that umbrella.

So when you think sex is dirty, a pretty strange attitude when considering sex between a man and wife, you refuse to sell them condoms, whether or not that is actually something in the code of a religion you practice.

This is the power of usurping legitimate religious objections that have long historic traditions and replacing them on the fly with an attitude that empowers obstruction and harrassment of 'others'.

[Sympthsical]

25. A lot of blue states have conscience clauses as well

I just had a long conversation with my pharmacist partner about it. California's pharmacy board has a conscience clause. His hospital system does, too. What's at issue, and he said he'll ask for me because he's never encountered the problem, is if condoms are caught under the definition of "contraception" in these clauses. He suspects it's a state by state thing.

But he's going to find out for me tomorrow, because I'm super interested to know.

I think we're about to hear a lot more about them because.

1. Roe was overturned.

2. Emboldened assholes will now try to rub it in by invoking the clauses.

I think this Walgreens cashier firmly rests in category two.

[vlyons]

4. I'm a Buddhist

Buddhists don't proselytize and try to convert you. You have to ask for teachings. Imposing religious beliefs on others just creates more confusion, resentment, and anger.

[ripcord]

12. All Methodists will do is invite you to a pot luck

I swear anything that happens they have a pot luck dinner for it.

[summer_in_TX]

22. Pot lucks are important to us United Methodists!

Food being symbolic of God's loving and nurturing the whole world, and God's welcome to all. They are big on grace and short on judgment, as a rule.

Peacetrain captures well the attitude of most Methodists to those of any denomination or none, any faith or none. God's grace is for every one.

Abortion? God gave us free will and respects us, expecting us to use it in making the best decisions for ourselves. Or to learn from that freedom to decide and even make mistakes. Love and grace cover it.

I love what our founder, John Wesley, told us to do: "Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can."

[ripcord]

26. I was brought up Methodist and attended so many pot lucks

You haven't eaten until you have tried to keep up with the Samoans at the Annual Conference held at Redlands University.

[gopiscrap]

28. yes

[LakeArenal]

5. I won't sell you milk because I'm lactose intolerant.

[dalton99a]

6. +1

[LakeArenal]

8. It also works if you leave out lactose.

[Shermann]

7. The word is Pastafarians! nt

[LoisB]

9. Perfect!

[duckworth969]

10. Better yet...

…tell all religious institutions in the world to stay the hell out of my politics. You done fucked the world up enough as it.

[Eliot Rosewater]

11. ACB, Kanavaugh and the rest, and this person at the pharmacy are low IQ people

with the exact same level of maturity of a 10 yr old.

Every action they take, every word they utter proves it.

[Rebl2]

13. A few of the

UCC in my area fly rainbow flags. Put out signs all are welcome. One UCC put up several doors on their property and painted them rainbow colors and wrote on each door a word God’s doors are open to all. So far it’s been vandalized twice. Last week when it happened some of their neighbors came out to help repaint them.

[Freddie]

14. Walgreen's is known for this crap

Some years ago - long before the current SCOTUS BS - it was publicized that a pharmacist refused to fill a prescription for an “abortion drug” for a woman who was having a miscarriage. The pharmacist was not even disciplined. I will not set foot in a Walgreen’s.

[Staph]

15. I'm also a Methodist.

I bought a t-shirt from a UMC group, a shirt that repeats a part of the UMC baptism view, "resisting evil, injustice, & oppression in whatever forms they present themselves". In rainbow colors.

I think it's a pretty good philosophy to live by. Almost as good a "love your neighbor as yourself".

[Diamond_Dog]

16. I've had the religion conversation re abortion with a stanch Catholic before.

They accuse us of being in favor of murder, no ifs ands or buts. You cannot reason with them.

[ShazzieB]

20. The indoctrination about abortion starts early, if I'm not mistaken.

It starts early, and it's quite thorough. I found that out in college, when I unexpectedly gut pregnant, and a Catholic friend totally freaked tf out when I said I was getting an abortion.

I knew what the Catholic teachings were, but this particular friend was a self-proclaimed feminist, as was I, and we had bonded over our mutual beliefs in equal rights for women. I was young and naive, and I assumed that being a feminist included supporting the right to choose. I found out that ain't necessarily so!

On one hand, I felt like a dummy for not realizing she might feel that way. But aside from being a feminist, she was sort of a cafeteria Catholic, who did not have a problem with (for example) sex before marriage or using birth control, so her hugely negative reaction to abortion took me by surprise.

It turned it to be the beginning of the end of that friendship, although it took me a while to realize it.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. Druids don't need a church

[Ziggysmom]

19. I loathe Walgreens. They are crooks who overcharge for prescriptions.

https://www.healio.com/news/rheumatology/20190213/walgreens-to-pay-270-million-for-overbilling-prescription-drugs-insulin-pens

[czarjak]

21. But, but, The Spirit compels them, so. Check out Dominionism, they aim to Rule. In JC's name too.

[dchill]

23. Frisbyterian. That's me.

We believe when you die, your soul goes up on the roof. Don't mess!

[Chainfire]

24. So, when you change religions, does the old god go with you?

[AllaN01Bear]

29. whip out my pocket bible and say,show me !!!!

episcopalian here

[Skittles]

30. Walgreens needs to hire people who can perform all functions of the job

someone here essentially told me I needed to respect that worker's beliefs - FUCK THAT, do you think that guy has any qualms selling a guy boner pills? UGH