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ROLLING BLACKOUTS HAVE BEGUN IN NORTH DALLAS (Original Post) Stallion Jul 2022 OP
Hoping for the best bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #1
Thanks for your support. Not all Texans are republicans MagickMuffin Jul 2022 #30
The wealthy will jet to cool climates & the rest will suffer SheltieLover Jul 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author SheltieLover Jul 2022 #3
What cities are in the North? . .... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #4
Only Dallas and Fort Worth DFW Jul 2022 #7
Thanks for letting us know Tree Lady Jul 2022 #19
Another day in bumfuck Texas.... walkingman Jul 2022 #5
Man, not even 9:00 AM...and only about 85 F. ret5hd Jul 2022 #6
Pshaw! 7:20am and it's 93 F. Coventina Jul 2022 #24
Kick dalton99a Jul 2022 #8
The a$$hats at ERCOT issues warning last night. You only had 2 freaking JCMach1 Jul 2022 #9
They "fixed" it by having Abbott pass a bond to make customers pay for last year's freeze dalton99a Jul 2022 #10
And passing on the cost in energy prices JCMach1 Jul 2022 #25
They will roll it evenly while avoiding wealthy areas IbogaProject Jul 2022 #12
FREEDUMB!!!! hatrack Jul 2022 #11
Have a long time on line friend w a disabled husband... electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #13
A video explainer tweet from Mike Collier blogslug Jul 2022 #14
I love Mike Collier!!!! yellowdogintexas Jul 2022 #29
Heckuva job Abbott Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #15
I hope everyone manages to get through this and that people remember to check on their LoisB Jul 2022 #16
Yes, be safe Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #20
Excellent advice. Thank you. LoisB Jul 2022 #22
Isn't out of control capitalism wonderful? Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #17
And it's only July dumbcat Jul 2022 #18
Yeah, but the sun never goes away Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #23
Yes, solar power is great for many things dumbcat Jul 2022 #27
Your reply is true in general... but not in this specific case FBaggins Jul 2022 #28
Businesses will start to notice sooner or later NickB79 Jul 2022 #21
Link? - On edit, this does not appear to be true. FBaggins Jul 2022 #26
3pm Update FBaggins Jul 2022 #31
Free market energy. Aristus Jul 2022 #32
Yeah, I don't think they every happened.. Liberal In Texas Jul 2022 #33

Response to Stallion (Original post)

Lovie777

(12,321 posts)
4. What cities are in the North? . ....
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jul 2022

Gov Abbott is enjoying 80 degrees and top of line air condition in Orange County, California.

Take care Texas.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
7. Only Dallas and Fort Worth
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jul 2022

Even by Texas standards, still considered to be a modest population center.

At least while Abbott is enjoying balmy temperatures in California, Texas is enjoying time without Abbott.

I hope the people at our HQ in Dallas manage to stay cool. Somewhere near 500 people work there.

Tree Lady

(11,484 posts)
19. Thanks for letting us know
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jul 2022

My daughter works at home in San Antonio, actually Alamo Heights. She thinks since most her neighbors are rich they will try harder to keep electricity on. I think if it goes out it goes out.

walkingman

(7,655 posts)
5. Another day in bumfuck Texas....
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:30 AM
Jul 2022

Is it too much to ask for the energy providers in the energy capital of America to increase our grid capacity? Let's go back to regulated utilities where profit is not the only consideration - the deregulation certainly has not reduced our energy bills.

ret5hd

(20,515 posts)
6. Man, not even 9:00 AM...and only about 85 F.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:32 AM
Jul 2022

A high of about 104 later…gonna be a rough day…unless you’re visiting a yacht club in California.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
9. The a$$hats at ERCOT issues warning last night. You only had 2 freaking
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jul 2022

Years to fix the grid.

I have a father with dementia. How are you going to roll that blackout?

electric_blue68

(14,932 posts)
13. Have a long time on line friend w a disabled husband...
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jul 2022

last time their power stayed on....

🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞


Good luck down there!


ETA
Just sent her a message

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
29. I love Mike Collier!!!!
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jul 2022

He will be a fantastic Lt Governor.

I need to send him some $$ he needs it more than Beto.

Our statewide ticket is really awesome this year.


Vote the downballot folks!

LoisB

(7,223 posts)
16. I hope everyone manages to get through this and that people remember to check on their
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:04 AM
Jul 2022

elderly family members and neighbors.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
20. Yes, be safe
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jul 2022

What usually kills older people in over heating situations is lack of water.....they don't drink enough water. When it is extremely hot, you sometimes don't even feel thirsty.

And don't forget salts and potassium. If you don't have a heart or kidney problem, salts and potassium can be life savers in the heat and keep your electrolytes balanced.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
17. Isn't out of control capitalism wonderful?
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:05 AM
Jul 2022

It causes severe overheating of the planet then cuts supply of energy needed to keep cool. Then overcharges for that energy that can be gotten for pennies from that thing that is overheating the planet.

Capitalism is sooo broken.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
18. And it's only July
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jul 2022

We're still on pre-heat.

Any Texans remember the summer of 2011?

And it's going to take 2-5 gigawatts of reliable generating capacity (a la nuc plants) to "fix the grid"in the short term. That's not going to happen in a couple of years. We're probably going to hit 80 gigawatts of peak demand today. With the Texas population and housing boom growing as it is we're going to need a few more nuc plants. (And if you say "wind and solar", look at the charts.)

[link:https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/|

Wind is almost non-existent at the time of peak demand.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
23. Yeah, but the sun never goes away
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:21 AM
Jul 2022

Well, at least not in our lifetimes.

I use solar power throughout the farm. And I rarely have a problem I can't fix. If I had enough money, I would convert my house to solar power.

It maybe the only solution for Texas, private housing solar setups. Since their power grid is so broken and expensive.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
27. Yes, solar power is great for many things
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jul 2022

But as a retired electrical engineer and former solar (Photovoltaic) consultant, I'll tell you that it is not a solution to grid problems. There are way too many complex issues, both technical and financial.

On a farm or homestead or private residence it's great. I've had solar panels on my roof since 1994. But a grid servicing urban areas is a whole 'nother issue.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
28. Your reply is true in general... but not in this specific case
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jul 2022

When the excess demand is caused directly by air conditioning demands on a hot and sunny day... solar is an excellent fit for "grid problems".

Now... the winter outages that TX recently dealt with? Solar is close to useless in that scenario.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
21. Businesses will start to notice sooner or later
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jul 2022

Regular power failures, or constantly high energy costs, will make industry look elsewhere to build new factories in the coming years.

Because remember kids, in 20 years these will be considered cool summers in retrospect. It will be an entirely different world at 2C of warming.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
26. Link? - On edit, this does not appear to be true.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jul 2022

I can't find that news anywhere.

ERCOT real-time tracking shows capacity at about 20% above current demand.

https://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/real_time_system_conditions.html

On edit - poweroutage.us and Oncor's power outage map shows no such thing. There are about 50 homes without power in and around the DFW metroplex (in 2s and 3s). That's not "rolling blackouts" (let alone "ROLLING BLACKOUTS&quot . That a Monday.

The peak danger was supposed to come in the mid-afternoon. The OP should be deleted.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
31. 3pm Update
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 04:27 PM
Jul 2022

Actual demand is almost 3GW below the projection from yesterday and project to be 2GW lower through the peak period.

No rolling blackouts today unless multiple plants go down unexpectedly.


https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/systemwidedemand

Liberal In Texas

(13,570 posts)
33. Yeah, I don't think they every happened..
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jul 2022

Not that it isn't a possibility in the future. The stagnant dome of high pressure doesn't look like it's going to be leaving anytime soon. This is causing all kinds of bad weather all over the country. The jet stream is broken. Caused by global warming.

The supply and demand graph is starting to become further apart as of this writiing.

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