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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 09:52 AM Jul 2022

We don't need no education: Now Arizona says teachers don't require college degrees


(Salon) Last week, just days after the Arizona legislature passed the most expansive school voucher law anywhere in the nation, Gov. Doug Ducey signed into law another education measure decreeing that public school teachers are no longer required to have a college degree of any kind before being hired. Instead of requiring a masters degree — which has long been the norm in the profession — Arizona teachers will only have to be enrolled in college in order to begin teaching the state's public school students.

The law, SB 1159, was pushed by conservatives on the grounds that Arizona has faced a severe teacher shortage for the last six years, which, by this winter, left 26% of teacher vacancies unfilled and nearly 2,000 classrooms without an official teacher of record. That shortage has led supporters of the bill, including business interests such as the Arizona Chamber of Commerce, to claim that loosening teacher credential requirements will help fill those staffing gaps. Opponents of the bill, however, point to the fact that Arizona has the lowest teacher salaries in the country, even while boasting a budget surplus of more than $5 billion.

"Arizona's teacher shortage is beyond crisis levels," tweeted Democratic state Rep. Kelli Butler this March. "Instead of offering real solutions (like increasing pay & reducing class sizes) the House Education Committee passed a bill to reduce the requirements to teach."

"With Arizona trying to get education monies to parents directly to pay for schooling — including homeschooling — you see more evidence that the state doesn't care who teaches its kids," said David Berliner, an education psychologist at Arizona State University and former president of the American Educational Research Association. "Charters and private schools for years have not needed certified folks running schools or teaching kids — as long as the voucher for the kids shows up." Combined with its new law creating a universal voucher system, Berliner added, "Arizona may now be the most radical state in terms of education policy." .............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2022/07/12/we-dont-need-no-education-now-arizona-says-teachers-dont-require-college-degrees/





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We don't need no education: Now Arizona says teachers don't require college degrees (Original Post) marmar Jul 2022 OP
Shithole republiscums The Unmitigated Gall Jul 2022 #1
Public schools still requires college degrees ..... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #2
Ignorance is Strength! Thomas Hurt Jul 2022 #3
Hey, teaching school is a cake job! Anyone can do it! Diamond_Dog Jul 2022 #4
There is some serious idiocy in credentialing across the country though JCMach1 Jul 2022 #5
Well, When the Bible Is the Primary Text Used in Schools, MineralMan Jul 2022 #6

Lovie777

(12,278 posts)
2. Public schools still requires college degrees .....
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 10:02 AM
Jul 2022

so apparently AZ will ditch public education for vouchers to private schools for control of what will be taught. The problem with that is a public schools are federal. No more public schools no more funds, therefore, AZ will have to raise taxes encompassing the general AZ public while they exclude raising taxes for the rich.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
5. There is some serious idiocy in credentialing across the country though
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jul 2022

First, let me state I am for alternative methods of teaching certification because it helps bring more diversity into the system. Traditional routes tend to NOT do that.

Let me give you an example. I have taught both University and HS for 25+ years. In Texas despite the fact have taught teacher education courses (i.e. I have taught wannabe teachers), I cannot be certified to teach HS without significant coursework. I could not keep my Florida teacher certification current while I was teaching university in the UAE. It just wasn't logistically possible to do silly little in-service things that are required.

So yes, there is all sorts of licensing BS like this built into systems (it's Byzantine) across the country.

So yeah, if this simplifies the system and brings in new faces, I am for it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Well, When the Bible Is the Primary Text Used in Schools,
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jul 2022

there's not much need for trained teachers, I guess.

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