Why is vasectomy still legal?

[milestogo]

If every sexual act is supposed to lead to conception, shouldn't it be outlawed?

We're all practicing catholics now, aren't we?

[WA-03 Democrat]

1. Hold on now

I attended Catholic schools and was taught that the “Rhythm” method of birth control could be done, in a marriage, with a calendar and work most of the time.

[Wounded Bear]

5. Didn't they used to call that "Rhythm and Blues?"

[niyad]

15. Old joke: What do they call catholics who use the "rhythm" method? Parents.

[milestogo]

23. The Catholic families in my neighborhood used this method

until the 6th child. Then they suddenly started using real birth control or stopped having sex.

[OMGWTF]

28. Same here but we called it "Vatican Roulette."

[Probatim]

35. The old Pull and Pray Method.

Puts you much closer to gawd for the next few weeks.

[Mad_Machine76]

2. Do doctors routinely refuse to perform vasectomies on men

of a certain age like they refuse to perform hysterectomies or tubal ligation on women of a certain age?

[PoliticAverse]

8. Not sure what you mean by "routinely" but yes some doctors do refuse...

See:
Incidence of vasectomies refused and reasons for refusal. Survey of clinics and physicians.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1434684/?page=1

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

12. Some do

A buddy wanted to get snipped years ago when we were 25 and he had to go to 3 doctors before he found one to do it. The first two said the same thing, they won't do it if you are under 30. Further research he did showed a lot refuse for under 30 and are hesitant for under 35.

[Aristus]

16. My grandson just got a vasectomy with no trouble, and he's 22.

No kids. Doesn't want them.

[milestogo]

22. But its supposed to be reversible, isn't it?

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

25. They can be, but its not guaranteed

And because its not guaranteed, medically, they are considered permanent and irreversible if I remember right.

[viva la]

26. Freeze some sperm.

Use it only as needed.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

27. Pretty sure the doctor that wound up performing the vasectomy

Told him to do just that, just in case, since reversal isn't guaranteed.

[CaptainTruth]

37. That's what I was told when I got mine.

[Jokerman]

13. Yes they do.

I asked a doctor about a vasectomy when I was 25 and he laughed at me.

I asked a different doctor when I was 30 and she refused to even discuss it.

At 35 I had it done but this doctor insisted that he have my wife's consent in writing.

[Rebl2]

44. Wonder

in the third instance, what the doctor would have said if you were not married. Would she/he refuse? When I got a tubal ligation in my mid thirties, I did not have to get permission from my husband.

[BadgerKid]

18. Some doctors won't do them, period.

[Maine Abu El Banat]

3. They're not finished yet.

They will most likely be included into any anti-contraception law before the court.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Because the real goal is the subjugation of women.

Men won't receive draconian reproductive control by the male power structure.

[Wounded Bear]

6. Sad, but true...nt

[MLAA]

7. You nailed it

[StarryNite]

20. Exactly this.

[Omnipresent]

9. The supreme idiots on the court, complain...

About headaches, if they think too much.

[PJMcK]

10. Simple

It's the same reason some insurance will cover ED medications while they won't cover birth control.

Subjugation of women.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

11. Small comfort though it is

if the Dobbs decision had been based on Catholic teaching, abortion would have been completely banned nationwide rather than sent back to the states.

[inthewind21]

19. Just wait

That's next.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

24. Possible, but highly doubtful

Dobbs would have been the perfect case to ban abortion completely, had the six wanted to do so.

[Skittles]

39. oh they are going for that next

absolutely no question about that

[dchill]

14. "We're all practicing catholics now, aren't we?"

Yes, by law. Or should I say decree?

[Bucky]

17. Bull

actually

[FSogol]

21. Because Men's health is everything goes. Womens health is a dirty sin!

[CloudWatcher]

29. Aren't erections evidence of God's will?

Isn't the doctrine that any women encountering an erection is required to submit to God's will and bend over? Otherwise why make men the stronger sex? It's just rape if you resist.

"A hard man is good to find" -- Mae West (possibly)

[please tell me I don't need to include the sarcasm emoji]

[pnwmom]

30. Most practicing Catholics don't follow those rules.

And the average Catholic is more likely to use birth control than the average Protestant (since that group includes fundies.)

[Elessar Zappa]

36. I find most Catholics are fairly moderate.

I think the nutcases are a minority in the Church. Unfortunately, some of them have power.

[pnwmom]

38. Right, especially in the US. The US Bishops are much more right wing

than either US Catholics in general or Pope Francis and Catholics in much of the world.

[Novara]

31. It's never been about reproduction, conception, or babies

It's always been about making sure women can't compete with men on an even playing field.

Face it, sisters. RW men are deathly afraid of us because of their own feelings of inferiority. They can't handle the competition.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

32. EVery sperm is sacred, if a sperm gets wasted

god gets quite irate.


Love the monty python guys they were and always will be way ahead of their time

[uponit7771]

41. +1, an argument can be made sperm is more sentient than eggs therefore is the prime component

... reproduction that needs to be protected.

Life begins at ejaculation !!!

[milestogo]

42. Yes because they're all swimmers!

And they're inherently male.

[k0rs]

33. I had my...

...vasectomy performed at Planned Parenthood in Denver in 1976 and it was quite inexpensive. The surgeon wasn't a doctor but an intern which accounted for the low cost...$25. Sorta like going to a barber school for a haircut. Talk about "practicing medicine." I was 25 at the time. I recall having to go through an extensive interview/counseling session before they agreed to perform the operation that included both my wife and myself. They wanted assurances of our (both of us) seriousness. At the time, reversal was much less common and far more "iffy." They counseled that the operation was permanent so we had better be sure. I guess we were convincing enough to satisfy them. Although I'm no longer married to the same women, I've never regretted the decision. My former wife has happily remained childless as have I. I do have a friend who had his vasectomy reversed when he married and now has two children.

[IronLionZion]

34. Or wanking

Jeffrey Toobin should address the legality of that

[uponit7771]

40. K&R,

[msfiddlestix]

43. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t