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Herschel Walker: Quote, "If man came from apes, why are there still apes"? (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jul 2022 OP
That is a common creationist argument spat out verbatim... Moostache Jul 2022 #1
The Creationist insistence that we're not Apes always gives me a chuckle. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #15
100% agreed... Moostache Jul 2022 #17
Flinging poo via the USPS sanatanadharma Jul 2022 #19
Chihuahuas came from wolves NickB79 Jul 2022 #2
That's my go-to favorite! Basic LA Jul 2022 #7
Why don't you go back to school and/or quit playing around and start paying your child support SWBTATTReg Jul 2022 #3
More deep thoughts from Professor Walker about the air we breathe: sop Jul 2022 #4
It's like a joke: "Why did the good air decide to float over to China's bad air?" gratuitous Jul 2022 #11
Apes: sarisataka Jul 2022 #5
Not real bright, is he? MineralMan Jul 2022 #6
Herschel Walker: Making Zoolander look like a genius. Jirel Jul 2022 #8
Somebody has to be Turbineguy Jul 2022 #9
Herschel and Turmp are having a contest, for the biggest idiot on the planet. sarcasmo Jul 2022 #10
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #12
"There's some talk going around town that Papa had three outside children and another wife" Walleye Jul 2022 #13
Many in his own party have no qualms about calling him an ape. keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #14
Is he brain damaged? nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #16
Common Evolution Misconception modrepub Jul 2022 #18
Where's my clue-by-four?! sakabatou Jul 2022 #20

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. That is a common creationist argument spat out verbatim...
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jul 2022

Young Earth creationists are a particularly loony group to begin with, but their adherents are legendary for continuing to spit out long debunked theories and statements as if they have never been addressed before...

For the record, Herschel, my CTE-addled former RB, there are apes for the same reason that YOU and I are still apes...a common ancestor and modification through descent does not mean that one branch immediately dies off and is forever lost to life. It means that at a distant point in the past, both man and apes had a common ancestor that would have been genetically able to mate with others of the same point in the evolutionary line. A split in that ancestral line led to apes that no longer interbred and speciated into separate lineages there after. The diverged but did not conflict and seek to eliminate each other.

That is why there are still apes, and technically when you look in a mirror you're STILL looking at an ape by definition.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
15. The Creationist insistence that we're not Apes always gives me a chuckle.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jul 2022

Look around at human behaviors: at every scale, dominance and barbarity. It's obvious our Ape Nature still affects our culture.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
17. 100% agreed...
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jul 2022

The biggest carry-over trait is the fear of scarcity - which leads to hording and greedy behaviors. We have yet to evolve beyond the banana in hand being worth many in the future mentality in too many ways.

We're really nothing more than evolved apes with complex language and thoughts, but lacking species-wide empathy across distances. We care - often deeply - about the suffering of others in the abstract, but we can't seem to translate that empathy into future generations or the unseen. Its why gun violence shakes so many so deeply in the days after an event; but its also why the GOP learned long ago that no matter how appalling a shooting is, if they survive to day 14 or 15 afterwards, no real change will occur. Same logic goes for starvation, disease, droughts - unless we see it constantly and presently, it fails to move our monkey brains and we go right back to hording figurative bananas.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
19. Flinging poo via the USPS
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jul 2022

Our species continuously proves our commonality with our ape cousins.
The mailed feces recently in the news is not new.

As an optional explanation, many too are evidence of karmic-devolution.

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
3. Why don't you go back to school and/or quit playing around and start paying your child support
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jul 2022

(if you can figure out just how many kids you really do have). I truly feel sorry for his kids here, if he doesn't truly know the actual number of his kids. How pathetic.

And you want this guy to be your rep?

Good God.

sop

(10,205 posts)
4. More deep thoughts from Professor Walker about the air we breathe:
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jul 2022

"Since we don't control the air our good air decided to float over to China's bad air so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then now we got we to clean that back up."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. It's like a joke: "Why did the good air decide to float over to China's bad air?"
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

Except you don't wait for the punchline to laugh, instead you laugh at the fool putting that question forward.

Turbineguy

(37,346 posts)
9. Somebody has to be
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jul 2022

the dumbest person in any organization. But there would be a noticeable gap between Walker and the next stupidest person in the Senate. That said, with trump voters, he's in with a chance.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
13. "There's some talk going around town that Papa had three outside children and another wife"
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jul 2022

And that ain’t right

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
14. Many in his own party have no qualms about calling him an ape.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jul 2022

Many in his own party have no qualms about calling him an ape.

modrepub

(3,496 posts)
18. Common Evolution Misconception
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jul 2022

A lot of folks make it. Even the ones that support the theory.

Humans, apes, chimpanzees and orangutans all share a common ancestor back in time (that ancestor has does not exist anymore). Furthermore, all mammals, reptiles, amphibians share a common ancestor (that also doesn't exist anymore). This ancestor, unlike the ones we share with the fellows I listed before, is even further back in Earth history. Thus, there are more similarities between the first group than the second group. The longer evolution is allowed to work, the less similar the decedents are.

So we are not decedents of apes, chimpanzees or orangutans, we're actually distant cousins.

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