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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsso the orange fuck is now being obvious about his hamhanded attempts at
witness tamperting.
he's fucked.
for the very first time, I think he will actually see prison time.
Bluethroughu
(5,172 posts)Jirel
(2,018 posts)As obvious as the poop steak on his white golf pants.
Javaman
(62,531 posts)now, everyone realizes that he really is a fucking thug idiot and don't want to carry his water anymore.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Javaman
(62,531 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)blueknight73
(295 posts)But I honestly believe no one close to him will. Hope I'm wrong
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I just don't think it will happen.
Mystery sage
(576 posts)Dear Democratic underground please make jail smiley please if possible. I need them for reasons!!
captain queeg
(10,208 posts)As the truth comes out I dont see how he can avoid serious charges and I dont see how he could not be indicted. He might gets short stay in a country club prison, but I think the enormity of his coup efforts will mean he might get a heavy sentence. How could he not, for historic crimes?
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)his being locked in isolation in a cell full of mirrors, given two full hits of LSD to help him relax and see himself. Call it soft if you will, but I think a decade of this could help him reform.
NoSheep
(8,121 posts)H2O Man
(73,559 posts)our goal. I think this is the best option.
erronis
(15,303 posts)I'd like to give the poor sod the benefit of thinking his dear father Fred was a manipulative asshole and the little djt has something like PTSD. Jesus, Fred's full name is "Frederick Christ Trump, Sr." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump).
You can see poor djt never being able to live up to his father's moniker and always feeling insecure. Needing more money and more power and more affirmation and inflicting more humiliation. Sounds like a recipe for a psycho-pharmocological solution.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)though I've never approved of wasting good mushrooms!
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Historic events hold the answer to that question.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)I agree.
FSogol
(45,490 posts)Raven123
(4,849 posts)They arent doing his dirty work.
Novara
(5,844 posts)OR ...
He's so freaked out he isn't trying to get others to do his dirty work at this point.
calimary
(81,322 posts)He may figure that if HE calls, personally, his target will be so overwhelmed that he or she will just cave to his charms. Hes a manipulative fucker, and may try to appeal purely to the marks ego. OMG youll NEVER guess who called ME!?!
Of course it depends on the mark, and whether he/she pays much attention to the news. And an unexpected brush with fame can really change the equation.
spanone
(135,844 posts)And Ivanka lied ????
Emile
(22,791 posts)he is down there in Florida playing golf as if he did nothing wrong. The DOJ needs to arrest him and lock this traitor up until his trial!
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Its too hot in Florida. Plus he has to give a deposition next week.
vanlassie
(5,676 posts)duckworth969
(600 posts)Sure as hell hope so.
But man, I really think the backlash could get really bloody and could stay that way all the up to 2024, maybe beyond.
Millions of angry people and a shit ton of AR-15s, well, you get the idea.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)He will not inspire "millions" of people. A small amount, maybe in the thousands, may try to instigate violence, which unfortunately, would be enough to cause major disruptions in society, but which will not lead to any new Civil War, like the former Oath Keeper said.
Most Americans are not engaged enough in the system to have a full on millions versus millions Civil War.
Novara
(5,844 posts)He's losing support. Eventually it will only be the die-hard criminals and a few corrupt motherfuckers in Congress who can't break the addiction.
duckworth969
(600 posts)Youre right, not in the millions.
But regional, I think thats possible in a number of places in the country.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)The problem is that even a few thousand crazy ass supporters can cause a lot of havoc if they hit big targets or cause disruption by taking out local infrastructure.
I simply do not think that enough people are really that interested in going to war for Donald Trump to be in the millions.
Justice matters.
(6,933 posts)... and the rest of Banditos threatened to shoot the whole town and burn it...
Call the Cavalry!!
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Hes practically begging for an indictment. Please, let it be this that trips up that disgusting motherfucker.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)"You'll never lay a glove on me, coppers! Mwahahahahahaha!" because he thinks he above, beyond and out of reach of the law . . . OR
"Screw it, no sense playing coy now!"
rurallib
(62,424 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)You pounce when the fire is hot. There should be new indictments filed the day after the Jan 6 commission brings up new testimonial evidence. It should be a synchronized plan of two ongoing events. The Congressional commission and the DOJ following the evidence presented and a day (or a few days) later adding a new charge and continuing.
This sitting back and seemingly trying to find reasons NOT to prosecute will backfire. Especially if the guiding "wisdom" in the higher circles of Democratic leadership is to wait until after Nov. for fear of mobilization of the pro Trump voters.
Even if we keep the House after Nov. when then? I can see a force within the party as pushing for a quiet end to it as they won anyways, so why spend the last part of Joe's first term handing ammunition to the "poor Trump" media?
If Garland does go ahead with indictments, but its separated from the commission by months and months that gives time for media like Fox News to pound Americans with disinformation about what catastrophic results will happen if the witch trial goes ahead. Doing it in conjunction, even a slight delayed reaction, keeps them spinning. Already you see the infighting on Fox News as some just can't keep up the facade and have to admit something is not right in Trump World. Give them a few months of Garland stalling and making excuses and Murdoch and his minions will have time to form their conspiracies for Tucker and the other propagandists to project their crafted reality to the viewers.
erronis
(15,303 posts)I don't either. But I smell another attempt to discredit ongoing investigations and gathering of necessary information prior to presenting to a court.
Let's stop worrying about how this appears to the media and to other people that really want some form of justice, right now. Let's do worry about making sure that the cases against these are solid enough to stand up in all of the various courts that they will be presented.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)...are also firmly suggesting some action from Garland.
I realize that it's popular with some here to be suspicious of any criticisms, and to "smell" comments, assigning some ulterior motive.
It's tiring. We've surely had enough of it on DU.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)plenty of legal precedent to make a good bet Trump will walk. And it's out there for all to see. If they look.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,356 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Traildogbob
(8,758 posts)Him to dress in all orange. Hed love that. Dress him like the nut bag sheriff out west that makes em wear pink. Or DemoCRAT blue.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Warpy
(111,277 posts)Most likely all his delaying tactics will be applied until there is nothing to send to prison but a stooped old guy yelling at clouds. Or they'll succeed until he buys the farm.
What I'd love to see are his passport(s) confiscated and an ankle monitor to keep him in whatever "home" he chooses.
Face it, he's an old guy and not in the best of health. Don't get your hopes up for timely incarceration, aint gonna happen.
captain queeg
(10,208 posts)Or at least they did. His crimes might not be as heinous on a personal level, but hes done more damage to the US than Hitler ever did. One can hope. As the truth comes out and dotard loses support, who knows?
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)How has he been held to account for anything? His reality show bluster isn't a new thing.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)patphil
(6,182 posts)Ukraine: I just want you to do me a favor though.
Georgia: Just find me 11,780 votes
Riverman100
(275 posts)to God's eyes and ears
cab67
(2,993 posts)His lawyers will keep the whole thing gummed up in the court system. He wont live long enough to see the end of it.
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)Author's feeling is it will be Dubau, UAE - good golf courses.
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/in-a-bid-to-avoid-prison-where-might-donald-trump-run/
Joinfortmill
(14,434 posts)Straw Man
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cab67
(2,993 posts)I want him to know that he's been convicted.
I want that on his mind until he draws his last breath.
Emile
(22,791 posts)LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP
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Bucky
(54,027 posts)...tells me that he's running out of co-conspirators and underlings.
His lifelong habit of hanging lieutenants out to dry when they cease to grovel at him is catching up to him. He has zero loyalty to anyone but himself. That makes it hard to run a criminal enterprise
he's been doing a find job of it for at least 50 years.
Joinfortmill
(14,434 posts)smb
(3,473 posts)If they tried to send him to some Club Fed, it would be an open invitation for his idiotic Meal Team Six followers to keep trying to "liberate" him.
niyad
(113,363 posts)hiim to stroke out. I am tired of all the energy wasted on him, all the attention, aall the money and resources. That blob of traitorous, putin-sponsored and propped-up lard is too dangerous.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)but if it stops him from ever running for office again, that would be good for America
llashram
(6,265 posts)it's all I have since a game of blame and finding patsies is underway. I just hope the DOJ finds enough to put the Teflon don down for the count.