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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:17 PM Jul 2022

A lo of hardline Trumpers reside in rural and small town areas that only get FOX

Surely there must be some honest, patriotic journalists out in those areas that will give the local newspapers the real scoop from the J6 hearings. Just one conversation at the local bar with truth and facts would stoke the interest.

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A lo of hardline Trumpers reside in rural and small town areas that only get FOX (Original Post) Samrob Jul 2022 OP
We lived snowybirdie Jul 2022 #1
IT. IS. THEIR. CHOICE. TO. BE. MISINFORMED. ASSHOLES. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2022 #3
Um, our rural areas do get lots more than Fox. Jirel Jul 2022 #2
If they get Faux, it's on cable Maeve Jul 2022 #4
Lol what? If you're getting Fox News, you're getting other cable news as well. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #5
I love in a very rural and all the news networks are available Kaleva Jul 2022 #6
In Michigan, about 75% of TFG voters live in urban or mostly urban counties Kaleva Jul 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #9
Did you mean to reply to the OP? Kaleva Jul 2022 #11
Yeah, Sorry ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #16
Walk into a rural coffee shop, sports bar, barber shop etc. Zambero Jul 2022 #8
Then why are there so many urban TFG voters? Kaleva Jul 2022 #12
That tends to be the national political demographic these days Zambero Jul 2022 #19
Trump would never stand a chance if he had to rely on rural voters Kaleva Jul 2022 #23
Actually it was Biden who received 3 million+ in LA County Zambero Jul 2022 #21
Thank you for pointing out my error Kaleva Jul 2022 #22
Do they have to climb a telephone pole to watch it? TheProle Jul 2022 #10
It's not just Fox which is everywhere. SharonClark Jul 2022 #13
Fox is generally a choice, but quite often local news is not. If the local channel is an affiliate dameatball Jul 2022 #14
Rural areas have plenty of cable. BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #15
Stats Suggest Otherwise ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #17
Um, no. My dad had fiber optic and streaming service on the farm before we did in town NickB79 Jul 2022 #18
No place only gets FOX. n/t Captain Stern Jul 2022 #20

snowybirdie

(5,230 posts)
1. We lived
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:22 PM
Jul 2022

in a largely rural areaa while back. Everyone mostly have dish tv which has all the channels. I used to watch Free Speech TV all the time. A lot of folks choose to only watch Faux.

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
2. Um, our rural areas do get lots more than Fox.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jul 2022

I live in rural Texas. I travel extensively in rural Texas. EVERYONE has tons of options other than Fox. The bars can play anything they want. They play Fox. The Gyms have a huge set of satellite channels to pick from. They pick fox. We have lots of local papers and local news stations and local news covered and provided on various radio station websites. They still go to Fox.

There is plenty of conversation at the bar, on Facebook, and elsewhere about facts right in front of them. There is no budging the right-wing media poisoned, conspiracy-theory-loving, devout fascist crowd. Dump could walk into that bar, shoot one of them in the face, and the only thing that would happen is they'd be up in arms about the antifa body double who killed their buddy. It's not the availability of fact-based media that's the problem. It's that they've got their fingers in their ears yelling, any time they're faced with a fact.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
4. If they get Faux, it's on cable
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jul 2022

They choose Faux, but reality is available.

Paying for Faux, even when I never watched it, is one reason I gave up cable.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
6. I love in a very rural and all the news networks are available
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:29 PM
Jul 2022

People choose to watch Fox because what that network puts out confirms the viewers world view.

You don't provide a single source that would support your statement. That many rural resident can only get Fox News.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
7. In Michigan, about 75% of TFG voters live in urban or mostly urban counties
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:38 PM
Jul 2022

Trump got as many votes from Wayne County alone as he did in all 15 counties in Upper Michigan and in many of the counties in the northern half of lower Michigan combined

Response to Kaleva (Reply #7)

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
8. Walk into a rural coffee shop, sports bar, barber shop etc.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:46 PM
Jul 2022

And chances are FOX is on the tube. From my own observations anyway. It's not so much that other sources of info aren't available in rural areas, there's just a lot less exposure to it.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
12. Then why are there so many urban TFG voters?
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 06:33 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:24 AM - Edit history (1)

A little over a million residents of LA County voted for Trump. 75% of the vote Trump got in Michigan came from counties classified as urban or mostly urban.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
19. That tends to be the national political demographic these days
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 09:15 PM
Jul 2022

3 million is certainly a lot of votes, although in a county as populous as Los Angeles (#1 in the country), it represents a comparatively small minority. And there were many millions in rural counties across the country who chose Biden. I happen to be one of them. I can't explain the Michigan numbers. If interpreted at face value, then Trump won both urban and rural areas, while losing the state as a whole! The general divide across the country is Urban-majority Democratic, and Rural-majority Republican.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
23. Trump would never stand a chance if he had to rely on rural voters
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:44 AM
Jul 2022

There just isn't that many of us.

I'm not arguing there isn't a divide. What I'm arguing is that those who say that the reason Trump gets a majority of rural voters because they can only watch Fox cannot then explain why TFG gets so many more votes from people who live in urban or mostly urban counties even though those voters supposedly aren't restricted to just Fox and have access to other sources.

As far as I know, there is no evidence that proves that a majority of Fox viewers live in rural areas. Therefore it's possible that a majority of Fox viewers live in urban or mostly urban counties. If true, that would help explain why TFG got about 75% of his vote in Michigan from people who live in urban or mostly urban counties.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
21. Actually it was Biden who received 3 million+ in LA County
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 11:25 PM
Jul 2022

Trump got just over 1.1 million for 29% of the vote.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
22. Thank you for pointing out my error
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:23 AM
Jul 2022

I went by memory instead of double checking. I'll edit my post.

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
14. Fox is generally a choice, but quite often local news is not. If the local channel is an affiliate
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:02 PM
Jul 2022

of say, Sinclair, then the viewers will get a conservative slant. Often it is overt, but even more often it is done simply by not presenting a rebuttal or an alternate viewpoint. It works imo. People might tune in to see who got shot at the Circle K or where the thunderstorms will be, but they still have to wade through one-sided presentations throughout. It is what kinda drives me nuts about the local station here.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
15. Rural areas have plenty of cable.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:19 PM
Jul 2022

I lived in an area where my cell barely worked, but I had great cable.

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
17. Stats Suggest Otherwise
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:23 PM
Jul 2022

At the end of 2021, a pinch over 90 million homes had cable or satellite TV service.
CNN was wired in 79.2 million of those homes. Fox was in 87 million homes.
The disparity is not as you suggest.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
18. Um, no. My dad had fiber optic and streaming service on the farm before we did in town
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jul 2022

People in rural areas watch Fux by choice, because it tells them what they want to hear. It gives them scapegoats for their problems, and subtly feeds their racism that's so prevalent when 99% of your community is White.

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