What Mr. Weissman just said on Ari's show confirms some suspicions about the DOJ.

[Samrob]

There are many embeds still there. Garland is the AG but he is one person. It take a devoted village to do the proper investigations the the Trump insurrection calls for. I do not think that AG Garland is being served well by the FBI and the rest of the DOJ because of some layover Trumpers. I've said this early on that Garland's first act as AG was to weed out all the Trump appointees and supporters. It is a remarkable thing that one deranged individual holds so much sway over so many government employees throughout all the Executive agencies.

[DURHAM D]

1. It would be simple to purge DOJ.

If a member of The Federalist Society they are gone.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. +1

[MOMFUDSKI]

6. Time to fire garland

and bring someone SERIOUS about their job in. I am disgusted. Or are they ALL in on making this a country of rich and poor? WTF

[Beastly Boy]

10. Sure. So which ones on the list work for DOJ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Federalist_Society_members&pageuntil=Nielson%2C+Howard+Curtis+Jr.%0AHoward+C.+Nielson+Jr.#mw-pages

[pnwmom]

22. The person you responded to gave no evidence. I wouldn't believe them without some. n/t

[DURHAM D]

27. I checked.

Appears to be accurate.

Edit: Checked more and now not sure but leaning toward probably.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

29. You checked?

How about a link?

He attended some Federalist events, but there is no evidence that he's a member.

[pnwmom]

31. No, he's NOT. Just moderating a panel at a legal conference sponsored by the Federalist Society

does not make him a Federalist.

Think about it. The R's refused to confirm him when they were in control because he was NOT a Federalist. Then, when Trump was elected, that's all he appointed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/us/conservative-legal-movement-roe-v-wade.html

During Barack Obama’s presidency, the Federalist Society continued to mature, effectively credentialing a growing pool of movement conservatives awaiting the next Republican administration. Then in 2016, judicial appointments took on tremendous urgency when Justice Scalia died during a presidential campaign and Senate Republicans refused to give a hearing to Mr. Obama’s nominee to fill the vacancy, Judge Merrick B. Garland, who is now the Biden administration’s attorney general.

[ancianita]

43. +1 Exactly.

[ancianita]

41. It is not accurate. He's not listed as a member of the Federalist Society on any of six sites I've

checked -- 2 Wikipedia entries, The Federalist Society, Mother Jones, The Daily Beast Twitter gives no links, just rumor -- any of them would have quickly noted his membership. They don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society#Notable_members

Where did you check?

[wnylib]

30. You did not know that for a good reason.

It is not true.

FBI Director Christopher Wray is a member of the Federalist Society.

AG Merrick Garland is not.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. Thank You!!!!

This mis-information is what the repukes do, we're supposed to be better than this, and for the most part, we are.

[pnwmom]

23. And you know that how? n/t

[gab13by13]

24. Garland appeared at 10 Federalist Society events

but there is no proof that Garland is an actual member.

[pnwmom]

33. That means nothing. What does mean something is that the R's refused to approve him

during Obama's tenure because they were waiting with their list of Federalist members.

[gab13by13]

37. He got a nickname for attending so many Meetings,

I can look it up.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. I just did, and there's nothing I can find on any nickname,

so please provide a link on a nickname.

[former9thward]

45. That is not the reason he was not approved.

He was not apporved because they wanted the chance one of their own would nominate someone who was much younger than Garland. And that is what happened.

[pnwmom]

46. If he had been in the Federalist Society they would have confirmed him. But he wasn't. nt

[former9thward]

47. No they would not have confirmed him.

They wanted a chance on someone much younger. And they got it. Obama nominated Garland because he was so old he thought the Rs would bite. They didn't.

[pnwmom]

49. Garland's not a member of the Federalist Society. Bottom line.

Between 2008 and 2012 he spoke at 8 meetings as a LAWYER, not as a Federalist Society member.

https://fedsoc.org/contributors/merrick-garland

A person listed as a contributor has spoken or otherwise participated in Federalist Society events, publications, or multimedia presentations. A person's appearance on this list does not imply any other endorsement or relationship between the person and the Federalist Society.

[Beastly Boy]

26. He is not.

But you took the bait anyway.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. BULLSHIT!!!! nt

[wnylib]

32. No, he is not. You are spreading false, negative

information about a member of President Biden's cabinet.

[Sneederbunk]

2. The fact the DOJ did not speak with Cassie Hutchinson is

dereliction of duty.

[wnylib]

35. Is that a fact? What is your source?

[Pinback]

4. How can a DOJ employee get away with disobeying a direct order?

Am I missing something here? Seems like Garland can shitcan anybody not following orders, no?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

5. Yeah, this is just another bash the DoJ/AG Garland thread.

[ret5hd]

12. Everything from "just doing a bad job" to...

“malicious compliance” can wreck a project in any organization.

[wnylib]

36. So can unfounded claims about

what somebody imagines is "really going on."

[MarineCombatEngineer]

38. +100. nt

[brush]

7. Also it seems too much of the DOJ's capability and time...

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is being spent on the apprehending and prosecuting, with mostly light sentences IMO, on the actual idiots who battled the cops outside the building or breached the actual Capitol and trashed it.

Meanwhile, the planers, trump et al, have been escaping scrutiny for the most part. Melber and his guest Andrew Wiseman basically said that the DOJ was surprised by Cassidy Hutchinson's revelatory testimony. They also said they shouldn't have been surprised since they have way more ability for wider-anging investigations, and in fact should've interview Hutchinson long ago.

I don't know, Ali Alexander is still at lodge for God's sake.

Running a major department like that is a big job, maybe too much for a former judge who's used to focusing on cases instead of the big picture. I'd like to be proven wrong, but we've been saying this for months now.

[Captain Zero]

11. Ali Alexander still at lodge? What Mean?

Typo? Or ?

Makes no sense to me.

[brush]

13. He's the one who helped organized the J6 rally, along with Gosar, Biggs and others.

You haven't heard of him?

"Ali Alexander is an American far-right activist, social media personality, and conspiracy theorist. Alexander is an organizer of Stop the Steal, a campaign to promote the false conspiracy theory that widespread voter fraud..."

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-ext-ff_freetestnow¶m1=20210829¶m2=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000¶m3=speedtest_~US~appfocus1~¶m4=~firefox~~&type=yhs-ext-ff_freetestnow_appfocus1_ff&grd=1&p=cluseau+of+the+pin+pather&guccounter=1

[BumRushDaShow]

15. "I don't know, Ali Alexander is still at lodge, and running a major department'"

He testified at a federal grand jury a couple weeks ago - https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/politics/stop-the-steal-ali-alexander-testifies-january-6-grand-jury/index.html

He was indicted for seditious conspiracy and the group of them (including Rhodes) were scheduled for trial on Sept. 26.

[brush]

17. Now that's good to hear. Thank you. I hadn't heard that.

[BumRushDaShow]

19. That was a new update for me as well

given there has been so much going on. In fact, that grand jury testimony happened the same day Roe v Wade was overturned (surprise surprise).

[wnylib]

40. I think that there is probably a lot

that Garland bashers have not yet heard.

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. Nonsense- all the DOJ leadership are Biden appointees

Garland, Monaco, US attorney for DC Graves, and the lead investigator (don’t recall their name at the moment) are all Biden appointees/ Biden era hires, and they are the ones who will call the shot and decide if Trump and his co conspirators will be prosecuted.

In addition, DOJ has hired over a hundred new attorneys/investigators for J6.

So, yes, there are some Trump appointees still at DOJ, but there is no evidence to support the assumption that they are slow walking or obstructing anything related to the J6 investigations.

The Trumpers could be working out of the Anchorage field office for all we know.

[Justice matters.]

14. RICO case: $250+ Million racket across multiple States

The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) of 1970 seeks to strengthen the legal tools in evidence gathering by establishing new penal prohibitions and providing enhanced sanctions and new remedies for dealing with the unlawful activities of those engaged in organized crime.

Threats of violence across multiple States. Witness tampering still not addressed.
So, when ... (?)

The longer the obvious racket of lies and threats continues without accountability, the more the danger to human lives keeps on growing.

[getagrip_already]

16. And their staffs?

Tfg purged the doj of suspect employees. Not appointees, but staff. Then they stuffed their own hires in.

An appointed rosecutor or fbi appointee needs a staff to function. Even at the fbi, The fbi staffers and agents aren't appointed, they are permanent employees.

That has an impact.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. "Tfg purged the doj of suspect employees. Not appointees,"

As a former federal supervisor, the Civil Service Act makes it very difficult to fire Civil Service employees - including those who are literally "not all there" (and even stalker types). You have to produce a shitload of documentation and hope they don't just move the "problem child" somewhere else.

So if any "purge" went on, it may have been of the previous "excepted service" appointees (e.g., aides, etc., not needing any Senate confirmation) working for the Obama appointees or associated a GS-1000s (SES) a couple layers down who got reassigned.

One of the issues of concern was "converting" some of them to regular civil service in order to "embed" and it was rumored that this was happening during the half-assed transition, when OPM was also attempting to reclassify a big pile of job series as a new "Schedule F" that would allow quick firing.

[Pepsidog]

25. Making me wish for the days when a DOJ attorney wanted to take down a prominent politician to make a

name and pave their way to hire office.

[gab13by13]

42. Here it is,

https://lawprofessors.typepad.com/civpro/2016/03/judge-merrick-garland-was-a-repeat-moderator-for-federalist-society-events.html

[live love laugh]

44. The endless chiding about DOJ made it obvious to me.

[867-5309.]

48. Then why have so many of the grunts been prosected?

You're dreaming up excuses.