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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer trump atty, just on CNN, said he was surprised that the govt had no DIRECT evidence
of coordination between trump WH and insurrection groups. (Yet?)
ME TOO!!! Thought PBs? had recorded Roger Stone!??
They keep saying hearings are almost over. Trying to move from disappointment to good this is all now in history books mode
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)with Putin?
SOMEONE in trump's orbit orchestrated with the militia, for sure.
AkFemDem
(1,826 posts)Roger Stone is the go between here, with the allied fringe groups.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)There is another hearing next week concerning what happened on the day of January 6th.
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WarGamer
(12,452 posts)The full unedited Mueller Report was available for any member of Congress to read... several went and examined it.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)There are those of us who have thought, and still think, that TFG will NEVER be charged with a thing.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)be so adept at skirting the law.
I would be very happy if the ptb went for " can never run again"
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)EndlessWire
(6,537 posts)As much as I'd like to see him take that perp walk, I'd settle for him leaving the country. I think that DOJ has enough to get him on something. If we don't see something, I will be profoundly distressed.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)unc70
(6,115 posts)CNN has had various people on who have attempted to minimize the evidence already presented. I was yelling at the TV/CNN when I heard Cobb on with Erin B
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)ABC news today.
My opinion still stands, whether or not a direct link can be found tfg needs to be prosecuted.
Substitute a black man to determine if the evidence needed to prosecute is enuf for tfg.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)The Cult will hear "there's no evidence," and that is what they'll continue to believe, even though they're being buried with evidence.
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emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)comes from an unreliable source?
TheBeam19
(344 posts)He was obviously in spokesperson mode.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)Looks like they aren't willing to accept anything except Trump standing in the pit with his right hand raised saying, "I did it."
brush
(53,791 posts)along with speaking at the rally and telling the crowd, which he knew had weapons, to march on the Capitol and take their country back is nothing but direct evidence.
And then there is the testimony of several WH aides who told trump he lost yet he keep on with the Stop the Steal big lie.
And then planning meetings at the WH with Eastman and Guiliani and Powell.
Come on, are they trying to kid us?
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)They don't have direct evidence because trump never sent a memo to the proud idiots or the oaf keepers.
They have direct evidence that stone and Flynn had connections. They have direct evidence that stony flynski had contact with the wh.
And they can likely prove what each said to the others.
It's a tortured phrase. But not one you couldn't send an indictment right through.
That's if the doj has the will.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, they are sure as hell not going to tell him what they have.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)when relevant subject was on agenda?
Unless it's some kind of three dimensional chess game we are always asked to believe ?
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)building a case and they know what they are doing.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Say that a group knows what they're doing? Do you work with them? I have NOTHING to doubt it - just personally never automatically say such things about ANYONE I don't know personally.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)I will say the J6th committee has a good reputation for competence and truth telling. Ill again reiterate the committee has more hearings on the schedule
Ty Cobb doesnt have a reputation for truth telling. That is why I treat his statements with skepticism.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)About the exact same thing.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)RockRaven
(14,974 posts)How hard are they really looking?
The historical record of the DOJ investigating and prosecuting criminality in the WH or executive branch in general is poor.
I don't know why everyone is so quick to be certain this time is different. The time to say it's different is when there's a different outcome. Still waiting on that...
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)It's not a prosecution or a trial. That's the job of the DoJ.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)they wouldn't show that? It wouldn't be in their purview?
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)That would be a fact, wouldn't it? They would then decide whether to release that information to the public or turn it over to the DoJ, or both. That's really all they can do. I think when this committee wraps up, there will be numerous criminal referals to the DoJ. Then it's up to Merrick Garland what to do about it.
There are probably many things they have found out that won't be revealed to the public for various reasons, such as national security or endangering the DoJ investigation. I think the two entities are working together more than we know of.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Voice mail of Roger Stone saying "game on! enter capitol!" ( Which there must be). You are saying that something like that would be a DOJ matter. And the Committee wouldn't mention it.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)to have an opinion on whether they should or would release that. It may be that the DoJ knows it already but doesn't want everyone to know that they know about it. Public knowledge of something like that could damage or hinder their investigation.
Think about it this way, if the DA in your county was investigating a murder, would they have a press conference every day to tell the public what evidence they have found? Or what a witness told them in an interview?
Laura PourMeADrink
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wonder and hypothesize. Frankly tired of that. If a human being who has betrayed the law infinite times can get away with it, and if we can't nail anything....
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)if he gets away with it.
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Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Answer: No
So why are you posting speculation from some unnamed Trump attorney here on DU?