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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:39 PM Jul 2022

Former trump atty, just on CNN, said he was surprised that the govt had no DIRECT evidence

of coordination between trump WH and insurrection groups. (Yet?)

ME TOO!!! Thought PBs? had recorded Roger Stone!??

They keep saying hearings are almost over. Trying to move from disappointment to good this is all now in history books mode
.

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Former trump atty, just on CNN, said he was surprised that the govt had no DIRECT evidence (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 OP
Did we ever get to see the Mueller Report? Direct evidence of what we know happened, working Eliot Rosewater Jul 2022 #1
I think they've laid out pretty good groundwork that AkFemDem Jul 2022 #2
But they didn't play any recording nor show any text Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #5
The Jan 6th committee isn't done yet. emulatorloo Jul 2022 #9
This is a misnomer... WarGamer Jul 2022 #31
This Was Always For The History Books SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #3
May never know how someone so ignorant can obviously Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #11
The PTB Had That Chance During 2nd Impeachment Trial nt SoCalDavidS Jul 2022 #20
Yeah, I agree. EndlessWire Jul 2022 #34
Sounds like the 'former Trump atty' is bullshitting or engaging in wishful thinking. emulatorloo Jul 2022 #4
Ty Cobb was in full BS mode unc70 Jul 2022 #7
I heard this same comment from one of the legal commentators on in2herbs Jul 2022 #13
He's gaslighting. GoCubsGo Jul 2022 #14
Post removed Post removed Jul 2022 #15
'Kill the messenger?' I don't understand. Why do you beleive it is a 'true statement' when it emulatorloo Jul 2022 #19
Yep. He wasn't even speaking as an attorney. TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #36
Will any DOJ indictment lead to him being ineligible to run in 2024? That, or its a wash Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2022 #6
+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #16
WTF? No direct evidence for what? Samrob Jul 2022 #8
Tweeting out come to DC on J6 as it will be wild... brush Jul 2022 #17
Very lawyerly wording there..... getagrip_already Jul 2022 #10
I'm glad... But why didn't they display evidence today,? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #22
Former Trump attorney has no fucking idea what evidence the government has. GoCubsGo Jul 2022 #12
Probably true. But surely it would have come out today Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #18
there is another hearing next week concerning Trump's actions on Jan 6th. The committee is emulatorloo Jul 2022 #21
Mean this with all due respect... How can you unilaterally Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #25
How can you unilaterally believe Ty Cobb? Do you know him personally? emulatorloo Jul 2022 #26
?? Has zero to do with Ty Cobb zero. I was thinking or wondering Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #37
You posted the thoughts of a Trump lawyer you don't know personally. Kingofalldems Jul 2022 #35
The DOJ isn't going to find what the DOJ doesn't look for... RockRaven Jul 2022 #23
This is a fact-finding committee. Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #24
So you're saying that if the fact that trump texted a PB Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #27
No, I did not say that. Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #28
Well let's just speculate. Let's just say there is a taped Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #29
I don't know enough about the DoJ investigation Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #30
Ya sounds like the same ole thing. We Dems have to hope and Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2022 #38
I agree. It will be very bad for the country Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Jul 2022 #32
Is he on the Committee? Kingofalldems Jul 2022 #33
Here you go: Kingofalldems Jul 2022 #40

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Did we ever get to see the Mueller Report? Direct evidence of what we know happened, working
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jul 2022

with Putin?

SOMEONE in trump's orbit orchestrated with the militia, for sure.

AkFemDem

(1,826 posts)
2. I think they've laid out pretty good groundwork that
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:42 PM
Jul 2022

Roger Stone is the go between here, with the allied fringe groups.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
9. The Jan 6th committee isn't done yet.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jul 2022

There is another hearing next week concerning what happened on the day of January 6th.

I

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
31. This is a misnomer...
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:56 PM
Jul 2022

The full unedited Mueller Report was available for any member of Congress to read... several went and examined it.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
3. This Was Always For The History Books
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jul 2022

There are those of us who have thought, and still think, that TFG will NEVER be charged with a thing.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. May never know how someone so ignorant can obviously
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jul 2022

be so adept at skirting the law.

I would be very happy if the ptb went for " can never run again"

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
34. Yeah, I agree.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jul 2022

As much as I'd like to see him take that perp walk, I'd settle for him leaving the country. I think that DOJ has enough to get him on something. If we don't see something, I will be profoundly distressed.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
7. Ty Cobb was in full BS mode
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jul 2022

CNN has had various people on who have attempted to minimize the evidence already presented. I was yelling at the TV/CNN when I heard Cobb on with Erin B

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
13. I heard this same comment from one of the legal commentators on
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:56 PM
Jul 2022

ABC news today.

My opinion still stands, whether or not a direct link can be found tfg needs to be prosecuted.

Substitute a black man to determine if the evidence needed to prosecute is enuf for tfg.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
14. He's gaslighting.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:56 PM
Jul 2022

The Cult will hear "there's no evidence," and that is what they'll continue to believe, even though they're being buried with evidence.

Response to emulatorloo (Reply #4)

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
19. 'Kill the messenger?' I don't understand. Why do you beleive it is a 'true statement' when it
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jul 2022

comes from an unreliable source?

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
8. WTF? No direct evidence for what?
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jul 2022

Looks like they aren't willing to accept anything except Trump standing in the pit with his right hand raised saying, "I did it."

brush

(53,791 posts)
17. Tweeting out come to DC on J6 as it will be wild...
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:58 PM
Jul 2022

along with speaking at the rally and telling the crowd, which he knew had weapons, to march on the Capitol and take their country back is nothing but direct evidence.

And then there is the testimony of several WH aides who told trump he lost yet he keep on with the Stop the Steal big lie.

And then planning meetings at the WH with Eastman and Guiliani and Powell.

Come on, are they trying to kid us?

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
10. Very lawyerly wording there.....
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jul 2022

They don't have direct evidence because trump never sent a memo to the proud idiots or the oaf keepers.

They have direct evidence that stone and Flynn had connections. They have direct evidence that stony flynski had contact with the wh.

And they can likely prove what each said to the others.

It's a tortured phrase. But not one you couldn't send an indictment right through.

That's if the doj has the will.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
12. Former Trump attorney has no fucking idea what evidence the government has.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jul 2022

And, they are sure as hell not going to tell him what they have.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
18. Probably true. But surely it would have come out today
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jul 2022

when relevant subject was on agenda?


Unless it's some kind of three dimensional chess game we are always asked to believe ?

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
21. there is another hearing next week concerning Trump's actions on Jan 6th. The committee is
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:05 PM
Jul 2022

building a case and they know what they are doing.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Mean this with all due respect... How can you unilaterally
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jul 2022

Say that a group knows what they're doing? Do you work with them? I have NOTHING to doubt it - just personally never automatically say such things about ANYONE I don't know personally.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
26. How can you unilaterally believe Ty Cobb? Do you know him personally?
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:13 PM
Jul 2022

I will say the J6th committee has a good reputation for competence and truth telling. I’ll again reiterate the committee has more hearings on the schedule

Ty Cobb doesn’t have a reputation for truth telling. That is why I treat his statements with skepticism.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
23. The DOJ isn't going to find what the DOJ doesn't look for...
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jul 2022

How hard are they really looking?

The historical record of the DOJ investigating and prosecuting criminality in the WH or executive branch in general is poor.

I don't know why everyone is so quick to be certain this time is different. The time to say it's different is when there's a different outcome. Still waiting on that...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. So you're saying that if the fact that trump texted a PB
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:13 PM
Jul 2022

they wouldn't show that? It wouldn't be in their purview?

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
28. No, I did not say that.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:22 PM
Jul 2022

That would be a fact, wouldn't it? They would then decide whether to release that information to the public or turn it over to the DoJ, or both. That's really all they can do. I think when this committee wraps up, there will be numerous criminal referals to the DoJ. Then it's up to Merrick Garland what to do about it.

There are probably many things they have found out that won't be revealed to the public for various reasons, such as national security or endangering the DoJ investigation. I think the two entities are working together more than we know of.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Well let's just speculate. Let's just say there is a taped
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:47 PM
Jul 2022

Voice mail of Roger Stone saying "game on! enter capitol!" ( Which there must be). You are saying that something like that would be a DOJ matter. And the Committee wouldn't mention it.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
30. I don't know enough about the DoJ investigation
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:53 PM
Jul 2022

to have an opinion on whether they should or would release that. It may be that the DoJ knows it already but doesn't want everyone to know that they know about it. Public knowledge of something like that could damage or hinder their investigation.

Think about it this way, if the DA in your county was investigating a murder, would they have a press conference every day to tell the public what evidence they have found? Or what a witness told them in an interview?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Ya sounds like the same ole thing. We Dems have to hope and
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Tue Jul 12, 2022, 11:51 PM - Edit history (1)

wonder and hypothesize. Frankly tired of that. If a human being who has betrayed the law infinite times can get away with it, and if we can't nail anything....

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Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
33. Is he on the Committee?
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 09:15 PM
Jul 2022

Answer: No

So why are you posting speculation from some unnamed Trump attorney here on DU?

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