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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhile the corporate media is trying to distract you with "inflation" stories.
Republicans are plotting to take away birth control and other drugs that women take for reproductive health. They're also trying to strip rights of same sex couples to marry, and criminalizing gay children and their parents.
At the same time a murderous traitor is plotting the slow rolling coup's next move. AND 10 members of the republican party attended a planning meeting to overthrow the government of The United States of America. The traitor media doesn't give it a mention.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)keenly watching the 1/6 hearings to see what their mistakes were and learn from them so as not to repeat them again. They've done that since Nixon. I wish our side did the same.
live love laugh
(13,141 posts)Sympthsical
(9,121 posts)Carrying that one into November?
Seriously. Social issues are important - some of them super important - but they are not everything. Look at the polling for the past year. We are bleeding working class. You know who we're gaining with? Affluent white suburbanites who only care about social issues and are largely insulated from inflation.
I really, really, really don't want to find myself sitting there on November 9th going, "Well, I told them. But because we apparently run our political arm through Twitter, this is what we got."
Because that would be very, very bad.
emulatorloo
(44,188 posts)Skittles
(153,202 posts)DAMN STRAIGHT
live love laugh
(13,141 posts)Sympthsical
(9,121 posts)If we're going to win, we have to do both.
But this, "The worst inflation in 41 years, price increases, rent increases, and decreasing power of wages isn't important! Stop whining about it!" is going to be the end of us.
The absolute end.
But isn't winning really about the superiority we felt along the way?
IngridsLittleAngel
(1,962 posts)I'd like to think so. I'd like to think many people think that way. But I sure hear a lot of people - even here - who would like us to STFU because "it's the economy, stupid" and "they're making us defend drag queens" and "unpopular positions will cost us the election!"
I sure don't hear a lot of "we can do both"... Just the usual "wait your turn" and "too much too soon" and "the economy is the most important thing" - all while the QOP is out for blood.
So if we can do both, maybe more people should say as much. Because I'm hearing far more "just wait until 2024... we'll get to you then." Whoops... "Can't. 2024 is too important. 2026?" "Shit... 2026 is huuuuuuge. How's 2028?"
IngridsLittleAngel
(1,962 posts)They have done far more to create this economic mess than Biden and the Democrats have. They have sabotaged every attempt to try to get it under control. They sit and cheer the gas prices and all the other shit, so they can pin it on Biden and regain control. So this mess is on them - like pretty much every other mess here in 2022.
And then we could go on forever about the social and human rights shit - expecting 10 year old rape victims to give birth, "Don't Be Gay", terrorizing trans people and drag queens, and drooling all over themselves to erase more protections and rights...
I'd rather have a Congress filled with frogs than one ran by the QOP.
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)live love laugh
(13,141 posts)Sympthsical
(9,121 posts)This is not about to be good, is it?
People really think, "Inflation doesn't exist/doesn't matter!" is a winning theme.
I can't even contemplate how this is possible. It is literally beyond my comprehension. That people look at approvals and the polls and rising prices and go, "You know what? Fuck the economy. It's not important. Hey, can we get that on a poster?"
I don't often say this, but I am truly in awe that it's possible.
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)I NEVER said it didnt matter. Your hair seems to be on fire about inflation yet you want to have a dishonest conversation by conveniently leaving out the fact that corporations in all sectors are taking in record profits. Your concern is noted.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,453 posts)Sympthsical
(9,121 posts)There is a high possibility we're going to be tipped into a recession right before an election.
I recognize corporations will bend us all over a barrel at any possible opportunity.
But your dismissive attitude towards what is happening in the economy would be political malpractice if the professionals in our party took that approach.
This is reaching conspiratorial levels of denial. "It's just corporations, you guys."
It's a hell of a lot more than just that. Failing to recognize it is a paean to partisan insularity that I have not seen before. I've been on the fence about November. I think Roe shifted things in our direction to the point where I changed from, "We're totally going to lose," to "Well, let's see how this goes. This may be better than we think."
But then I see this stuff and man is it demoralizing. If this is the drum beat going into November, we're done. Completely done. And it will have been an entirely self-inflicted disaster. How can people navel gaze that hard?
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)If we dont have democracy this is all going to look like a day in Disney. People better wake the fuck up.
Sympthsical
(9,121 posts)Just seemed kind of apt given this thread.
"Ignore the masses. We here at the top have real stuff to talk about."
A major FAFO moment for people in power who ignored the pain of the working and the poor. So maybe all this "Inflation is a distraction," talk is a temporary imitation in honor of the holiday?
I'm going to go with that. Because if this is a general view of reality for the next three months, we'll get crushed. And we'll have deserved to.
If people really valued democracy, they would do whatever it takes to make sure we win in November. That includes recognizing and understanding the economic problems happening in the country. If we don't get a handle on it, whatever President Biden gained in the Rust Belt will be wiped away. Those people will flip so fast and so hard, we'll have to go back to calling them all racists again.
I am not seeing this willingness to win. I'm seeing people putting their preferred narratives and wish-casting before practical political realpolitik. I'm seeing people who are comfortable and unaffected - the people who are able to hang around social media all day - push what they can afford to talk about while ignoring those who are barely making it.
It's out of touch, and reality is a son of a bitch when it materializes.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)So the American people are looking at a 5% real reduction in their household income. Over half this country already lived from paycheck to paycheck.
This shouldn't just be the number one issue - it should be top priority by a huge margin.
Hugin
(33,213 posts)The President of the United States openly advocated and endorsed the murder of the Vice President of the United States.
Hurrumpf, they said having party tickets would avoid these sorts of things.
betsuni
(25,659 posts)"even worse than expected," "red hot inflation numbers" "41 year high," gas prices up 60%.
The other day they had to report good employment numbers and lowering gas prices and I also swear they seem disappointed. I could be imagining it, but don't think so.
dchill
(38,547 posts)onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)Azathoth
(4,611 posts)There are people literally spending a third of their take-home pay on gas money right now. People are suffering. Millennials -- you know, the punching bags who are now supposed to be entering their most productive years and are currently paying for all the folks on social security and Medicare -- have gone through the second Great Depression of 2008, the Covid nightmare, and now the ones who kept their careers are watching whatever salary bumps they managed to earn get wiped out in a matter of months.
Is it Biden's fault? No. But as has been said many times before, the Presidency is a privilege, not a right. Part of the job is fixing things you didn't necessarily break, and suffering the wrath of the people if you don't.
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)IngridsLittleAngel
(1,962 posts)The first is calling this "inflation". It is not. It's blatant corporate greed. It's price gouging in every direction by our "dear friends", the corporations. It's a collection of parasites making like their "god" Drumpf, who of course will forever be known by his own niece's words: Too much and never enough. Not to mention they could spend more time covering how Biden and the Democrats are making an effort to try to curtail this shit, only to be sabotaged by the QOP at every turn.
But you're absolutely right that the media is completely overlooking the blatant threats to civil rights and human rights and freedom in this country. That while they're screaming about gas prices, they have very little to say about the threats made to LGBTQ rights, reproductive rights (ie. the desire to burn down Griswold), and people of color (with extremists wanting to burn down Loving and Brown). We have been in very dark and ugly times for the non-white cishet male in recent years, and right now many of us are anxious, fearful, upset, saddened.... The list goes on and on.
No, none of us are happy about being gouged by millionaires and billionaires. We have concerns about making ends meet and trying to keep our heads above water. But, damnit, so many of us are absolutely afraid of what kind of future we face if our rights and protections are struck down, wondering what kind of life we may face as a second or third-class citizen, and that isn't even accounting for "vigilante" hatred from UltraMAGA groups like the Proud Incels or Incel Front...
But then again, they're "concerned parents" and "activists", according to "progressive" news sources like the NYT and NPR. And let's not even get started on how they let the likes of Empty Greene and Bang Bang Boebert spew whatever the hell they want without being called out or questioned, ever.
I'm not going to lie. Some days, I wonder how much time I have left.