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Doctor who provided abortion care for 10-year-old rape victim to be investigated by Indiana AG (Original Post) shelshaw Jul 2022 OP
Dr. who provided abortion services to be investigated people Jul 2022 #1
This is solely for the purpose of intimidation. madaboutharry Jul 2022 #2
What are they investigating her for? Wingus Dingus Jul 2022 #3
The doctor may have been a mandatory reporter. Dr. Strange Jul 2022 #14
The GOP just can't leave anyone alone. They are a bunch of sick misfits. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #4
WTF is he going to investigate? wryter2000 Jul 2022 #5
Likely not what you assume FBaggins Jul 2022 #10
She was 10 years old MySideOfTown Jul 2022 #17
Note that she traveled TO Indiana for the abortion FBaggins Jul 2022 #19
One can always file the necessary paperwork at a later date. Would not prosecute her at all. kiranon Jul 2022 #20
No... one cannot "always file the necessary paperwork at a later date" FBaggins Jul 2022 #23
This Is True Of Anybody... ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #25
Indeed... as it should be FBaggins Jul 2022 #27
For Sure ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #29
The Indiana AG is the one threatening to investigate. Dale in Laurel MD Jul 2022 #15
Thanks. wryter2000 Jul 2022 #33
Intimidation. Thug tactics. nt 2 Meow Momma Jul 2022 #6
Exactly, much like DeSantis down in Florida. Goes after little kids and those most vulnerable. RKP5637 Jul 2022 #8
Advertising purposes. Look at me, I'm a tough AG I go after little kids in a bad situation and try RKP5637 Jul 2022 #7
The rapist isn't the criminal..the compassionate doctor is.. agingdem Jul 2022 #9
The rapist is in jail FBaggins Jul 2022 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author agingdem Jul 2022 #32
There really is a special place in hell BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #11
Never forget that Republicans called this a hoax ck4829 Jul 2022 #12
Hmmm... time for the AMA to get involved grumpyduck Jul 2022 #13
Good ripcord Jul 2022 #16
FYI. The rape took place in Ohio. The responsibility to report falls on Ohio doctors & persons there scarletlib Jul 2022 #21
Of course there isn't Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #24
And the rape had already been reported to the applicable Bettie Jul 2022 #26
It would seem Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #18
The Indiana AG--now THERE is a pervert for you DFW Jul 2022 #22
There is zero evidence it wasn't reported to the state Department of Health. herding cats Jul 2022 #28
What fucking bullshit. Scottie Mom Jul 2022 #30

people

(632 posts)
1. Dr. who provided abortion services to be investigated
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jul 2022

This is so disgusting. These people are horrible. We are becoming Gilead. Margaret Atwood could see the future.

madaboutharry

(40,224 posts)
2. This is solely for the purpose of intimidation.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jul 2022

No laws were broken and everyone knows it.

The AG is abusing the powers of the office of The AG.

Dr. Strange

(25,925 posts)
14. The doctor may have been a mandatory reporter.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jul 2022

If she didn't report the rape, that could be grounds for losing her license.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
5. WTF is he going to investigate?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:49 AM
Jul 2022

The doctor performed a legal procedure with the consent of the patient and parent(s). The doctor answers to the Indiana medical board, not the Ohio board.

FBaggins

(26,762 posts)
10. Likely not what you assume
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jul 2022

The doctor may have a duty to report what was obviously the rape of a minor.

MySideOfTown

(225 posts)
17. She was 10 years old
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jul 2022

There is no way she was pregnant without getting raped, even in backwards, bumfuck Indiana. So yes obviously, but it's backwards, bumfuck, shit hole Indiana, where the don't even have ACA.

FBaggins

(26,762 posts)
19. Note that she traveled TO Indiana for the abortion
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jul 2022

It was Ohio that supposedly banned the procedure (they now say this is incorrect... but that was the story) and where the rape occured. Indiana was the state she had to travel to for the procedure.

They may be backward in other ways... but I can't fault them for saying that doctors have a legal duty to report rapes of minors. If the doctor failed to do so... I have no qualms about prosecuting her.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
20. One can always file the necessary paperwork at a later date. Would not prosecute her at all.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jul 2022
It is likely one can file a later notice, The Republicans called it a hoax and she may have feared they would prosecute her for a hoax. She may not have been able to talk with the patient about who impregnated her. Of course it was rape but it has to be proven none the less or at least discussed. Perhaps it was reported in Indiana where the procedure was performed. If the Republicans wrote the law, there is probably something wrong with it that can make a later filing (just days) to report. And, this AG needs to be defeated in his next run for office. Compassion, judgement, reasonableness are also part of the law in my opinion.

FBaggins

(26,762 posts)
23. No... one cannot "always file the necessary paperwork at a later date"
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jul 2022

The legal obligation in Indiana is to immediately report.

IC 31-33-5-4 Immediate oral or written report to department of child services or law enforcement agency

Sec. 4. A person who has a duty under this chapter to report that a child may be a victim of child abuse or neglect shall immediately make an oral or written report to:

(1) the department; or

(2) the local law enforcement agency.


You're focusing on the abortion issue and on how Republicans acted in response. Neither is relevant in this specific case.

A little girl was raped and a doctor with a duty to report allegedly didn't do so. This is no minor paperwork kerfuffle. We think we now know who the rapist is, but we don't know of what his connection to the girl is. The law was written to protect her from her abuser. "Meh... the doctor can get around to reporting a few weeks later" is not an acceptable response.

The only acceptable excuse is that the AG is mistaken and the doctor did indeed report. "She can get around to it later... the abortion is the thing to focus on" isn't.

ProfessorGAC

(65,213 posts)
25. This Is True Of Anybody...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:54 PM
Jul 2022

...in a position considered a mandatory reporter.
The list of positions is long. Pretty much anybody who's job involves minors as a primary function.
Geez, I'm just a substitute teacher & i am required to report concerns by the end of the day they come up.
So, you're right, there's no "later date". Details can he added to a report in following days, reporting needs be at earliest possible opportunity.

FBaggins

(26,762 posts)
27. Indeed... as it should be
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jul 2022

Oh... I get it that some in your position might see a bruise and not be anxious to trigger CPS investigations when the kid says daddy didn't do it. I've heard of parents anxious of normal bumps and dings when they have nosy neighbors.

But this isn't that. If a ten-year-old girl is pregnant, then there's either a significant religious event occurring... or someone raped her. "Oh... I'll fix the paperwork next month" isn't going to hack it.

ProfessorGAC

(65,213 posts)
29. For Sure
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:14 PM
Jul 2022

And yet, I'm still legally required, though a bruise might just be a bruise.
In my case, i might see that groups of kids 1-6 times a year, so I'd have no pattern for which to look.
Not sure if that makes it easier or harder.
In this case, the entire scenario can't exist unless a felony has been committed. The seriousness suggests immediacy. Demands it.
Now, i can see this doctor not reporting it in Indiana if told by the parents that report was already made in Ohio. I don't see how she's culpable if authorities already knew.
After all, they caught the slimeball shortly after all went public. They might have known for a while.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. Exactly, much like DeSantis down in Florida. Goes after little kids and those most vulnerable.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jul 2022

Easy prey for these vultures. Trying to get the votes from the creatures and deplorables in the US.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
7. Advertising purposes. Look at me, I'm a tough AG I go after little kids in a bad situation and try
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jul 2022

to punish everyone. Vote for me, I'm hard on little kids and helpful medical staffs. These kids are the gravest threat to our F'ed up country.

agingdem

(7,861 posts)
9. The rapist isn't the criminal..the compassionate doctor is..
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jul 2022

Reminiscent of Trump and Giuliani targeting the two election workers by name…but OMG beer boy Brett can’t eat his dessert at Morton’s in peace…imagine the horror!!!!


Response to FBaggins (Reply #31)

grumpyduck

(6,267 posts)
13. Hmmm... time for the AMA to get involved
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 12:03 PM
Jul 2022

and holler like hell. They're voters too.

You want publicity, Todd? You'll get it.

scarletlib

(3,418 posts)
21. FYI. The rape took place in Ohio. The responsibility to report falls on Ohio doctors & persons there
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jul 2022

Pretty sure Mom did report this to police. Therefore the obligation to report should be satisfied. She reported to authorities. It’s their job to follow through.

The Doctor in Indiana had nothing to report to the authorities in Indiana. The girl does not live there, the rape did not occur there.

There really is nothing for Indiana to investigate.

Mad_Machine76

(24,438 posts)
24. Of course there isn't
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jul 2022

the Indiana AG is on a holy crusade, however, and has to be seen DOING something. Everybody is a mandated reported but I don't know how many people are actually ever investigated for or prosecuted for failure to report (if she didn't)

Bettie

(16,129 posts)
26. And the rape had already been reported to the applicable
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jul 2022

organizations.

They are just being assholes.

Mad_Machine76

(24,438 posts)
18. It would seem
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jul 2022

that since abortion isn't illegal in Indiana yet, this is what they are going to use to go after doctors? Is there any evidence at the moment that she didn't? BTW *everybody* is a mandated reporter here in Indiana. Isn't this sort of what O'Keefe and other Planned Parenthood stings used to try to accuse healthcare clinics of?

DFW

(54,445 posts)
22. The Indiana AG--now THERE is a pervert for you
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jul 2022

To hell with a ten year old rape victim, but prosecute the doctor who freed her from her violently forced pregnancy.

These God Squad fanatics need to be dropped out of an airplane at 10,000 feet to see if they are granted immediate wings by the same deity they swear told them to subject ten year old girls to full term pregnancies. If they believe the one, they should believe the other.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
28. There is zero evidence it wasn't reported to the state Department of Health.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:03 PM
Jul 2022

As a health care provider in a state which requires the procedures to be reported to the Indiana Department Of Health, I'd be highly surprised if it weren't. Reporting such as that are done by your assistant and are rote.

He's obviously thinking of running for higher office and this is a first step in his courtship dance to the base of Deplorables.

Scottie Mom

(5,812 posts)
30. What fucking bullshit.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jul 2022

10 years old girls should not be raped and then forced to give birth. This is the definition of barbaric.

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