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madaboutharry

(40,224 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:56 PM Jul 2022

Oh boy....here come the conspiracy theories...3..2..1

From ABC News:

“Ivana Trump was found unconscious and unresponsive at the bottom of a set of stairs in her apartment, according to police sources. The police are investigating whether she fell and, if so, whether the fall contributed in any way to her death, the sources said. A medical examiner will determine her cause of death, police said.”

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/ivana-trump-wife-president-trump-dies-age/story?id=86834496

This is just very sad. People die this way all the time. But there are some crazies out there who are going to run with this.

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Oh boy....here come the conspiracy theories...3..2..1 (Original Post) madaboutharry Jul 2022 OP
I suppose the Clintons will be involved somehow, maybe doc03 Jul 2022 #1
She tripped on his laptop! Nevilledog Jul 2022 #4
The older I get the more I avoid stairs. blm Jul 2022 #2
Yep, and I wouldn't be surprised if she was wearing high heels at the time. GoCubsGo Jul 2022 #10
I guess someone just watched "The Staircase" on HBO intrepidity Jul 2022 #3
When it comes to the Trumps, nothing would surprise me. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #5
Well, they need some excuse to avoid testifying tomorrow. . . FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #6
I thought about that too, the timing is way too convenient. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #13
If her death gives Mango another cash stream for himself? Captain Zero Jul 2022 #12
Her body is not yet in the ground and the orange F wad is fund raising off of her. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #14
Pretty doubtful Ivana was still getting alimony from the Chump.. Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #18
She could have owned some stock or a percentage of Trump enterprises. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #19
Ivana got the Plaza Hotel in the divorce. Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #20
Correct. But she could have had investments in his business empire. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #21
I get that, but I was responding to the comment Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #24
And I was talking about other monies he may have owed her. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #25
Are we done? Totally Tunsie Jul 2022 #26
Ivana helped manage the Atlantic City casinos for a while FakeNoose Jul 2022 #22
Yep. Marla Maples has kept a low profile for good reason. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #23
No doubt about it oswaldactedalone Jul 2022 #7
Cuing Church Lady. . . niyad Jul 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jul 2022 #9
Certainly put Elizabeth I in a bind Sympthsical Jul 2022 #11
They started here a few minutes after the news broke. demmiblue Jul 2022 #15
Melania did it. kskiska Jul 2022 #16
Somewhere I read that Chump still tells people FakeNoose Jul 2022 #27
Who drove the get away car? Emile Jul 2022 #17
Gravity lives on. Iggo Jul 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #29
She does have a desperate, drug addict son that could inherit a handsome sum. Midnight Writer Jul 2022 #30

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
10. Yep, and I wouldn't be surprised if she was wearing high heels at the time.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:16 PM
Jul 2022

After a certain age stairs are hard enough on their own, without one's shoes knocking them off kilter.

Irish_Dem

(47,461 posts)
5. When it comes to the Trumps, nothing would surprise me.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jul 2022

Drugs, alcohol, crimes, revenge, the mob, Russians, political operatives, etc.

Or she could have tumbled down the stairs and hit her head, or broken her neck.

Captain Zero

(6,827 posts)
12. If her death gives Mango another cash stream for himself?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jul 2022

He's all about the cash flow, baby.
The King of Debt, and the King of Cash Flow

No more alimony = more cash flow, more collateral for cash flow from more debt.

Work it. Baby!

Irish_Dem

(47,461 posts)
14. Her body is not yet in the ground and the orange F wad is fund raising off of her.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jul 2022

I am sure Jared is now thinking about how much money he can grift when Trump is on his deathbed.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
18. Pretty doubtful Ivana was still getting alimony from the Chump..
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:43 PM
Jul 2022

She was married twice after her tRump divorce. TFG would be long off the hook.

Irish_Dem

(47,461 posts)
19. She could have owned some stock or a percentage of Trump enterprises.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:31 PM
Jul 2022

They did own some businesses together as I recall when they were married.

Who knows, maybe she was trying to cash out before the Trumpster went to prison.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
20. Ivana got the Plaza Hotel in the divorce.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:36 PM
Jul 2022

However, the hotel and any business dealings are a division of assets, not considered "alimony".

Irish_Dem

(47,461 posts)
21. Correct. But she could have had investments in his business empire.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jul 2022

Which she could cash in. While it would not be alimony it is money he may have owed her.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
24. I get that, but I was responding to the comment
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:46 PM
Jul 2022
specifically about "alimony", i.e. continuing support. You're bringing up everything but.

There's no way Chump was paying Ivana alimony. Alimony ends when the receiving party remarries. She had TWO marriages after Chump.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
22. Ivana helped manage the Atlantic City casinos for a while
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jul 2022

I believe it was when they were still married, but of course Chump was already cheating on her by then. Anyway those casinos were all bankrupted and sold off long ago. I don't believe Ivana was welcome in any Chump businesses after that. By the late-90's, the kids were starting to work for him, or at least Junior was old enough.

I don't think Chump had any reason to harm Ivana, she hadn't been collecting money from him for years. The ex-wife that he really hates is the 2nd one.

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
27. Somewhere I read that Chump still tells people
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jul 2022

... that Ivana is the only one he ever loved. So yeah, Melania probably does/did hold a grudge against her.

If it came out of Chump's mouth, you know it's a lie. But she won't care.

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

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