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Chief of Communications for the United States Secret Service has responded.
UPDATED:
Press release:
https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2022/07/statement-anthony-guglielmi-chief-communications-united-states-secret
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FelineOverlord
(3,590 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Thank you Cassidy Hutchinson for helping expose him.
Bucky
(54,041 posts)Walleye
(31,039 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)FelineOverlord
(3,590 posts)Journeyman
(15,038 posts)and expect to not be called out for manufacturing evidence?
Maybe this is a ploy to get others to come forward, or the recipients to provide the messages from their end. But unless there's more to this technology than I can fathom, I don't see how "reconstructing" the texts would be of any substantial use.
James48
(4,438 posts)Government phones use, and go through
, the same commercial servers that anyone else uses. And in most cases, they go through government servers as well, and backup copies of all messages are automatically archived.
IF everything was working the way it should- they ought to be able to pull those messages off the servers in question, even if the sender and receiver deleted their copies.
Electronics stay forever, unless intentionally deleted, and I dont think this type of. Swap would delete the archives of those messages. If just May take sone time to get the data.
Journeyman
(15,038 posts)that makes sense, and would be accurate, as well.
Tetrachloride
(7,865 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,054 posts)WiVoter
(909 posts)Im glad that President Biden is making changes with some of them & getting some of the same Secret Service people he had when he was vice president. I worry about his safety.
RockRaven
(14,990 posts)innocent and coincidental* then I've got a fucking bridge I'd like to sell you.
Dirty bureaucrats always have a hundred ways to do shady shit within the confines of plausible deniability. Most of the cruelty-is-the-point depredations of TFG's regime were performed thusly.
azureblue
(2,150 posts)Like any cell phone device, when migrating the data is transferred, then verified. Sometimes direct, sometimes through a 3rd storage device. No doubt the contact numbers and settings were transferred, so that means the messages were, too. and that means the messages are somewhere. Further, when data is erased, it is not erased - the header - that is, the name and directions to the data are erased, so the data can be retrieved.
Whoever came up with this excuse is totally ignorant.. The messages will be recovered and the who ever will be charged.
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)Every 2 years, i got a new one. From 1996 to 2018. So, 7 or 8 times my phone got replaced in the smartphone era. (I'm counting BlackBerry.)
In every case, in 12 hours or less, the new phone had EVERYTHING on it that was on the previous one.
Texts, contacts, Apps, files, everything.
In 2022, the cut in of a new server wiped out messages on Secret Service phones? And, the texts were from the 5th & 6th?
Strains credulity.
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Sky Jewels
(7,133 posts)that was above politics.
Boy, was I naïve.
Trump turns everything, and I mean everything, to shit, including this once reputable agency.
RockRaven
(14,990 posts)Here's an article from 2014 just about the scandals during Obama's first term and a half.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/long-list-breaches-scandals-secret-service-under-obama-n215751
Some highlights:
The crashers in 2009.
Shots fired at the WH in 2011, and the supervisor immediately ordered a stand down declaring it to be a car backfiring, the shooting is not properly identified as such for four days.
Prostitutes in Colombia in 2012.
Drunk in Amsterdam in 2014.
Letting an armed guy with a criminal record get into an elevator with Obama in 2014.
Obama had replaced the director twice by that point. They never got better.
Sky Jewels
(7,133 posts)So depressing.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Novara
(5,851 posts)Maybe the rot started there because they're racist fucks? Maybe they didn't like having to protect a black man?
I'm just spitballing.
RockRaven
(14,990 posts)date to before TFG, in direct response to the prior post. Obama was a convenient example as the immediate prior POTUS.
For another older example with obvious parallels to today, we could look at the SS destroying documents in the wake of the JFK assassination, immediately after receiving requests for those very documents from investigators. Their excuse then was routine document culling, not unlike today's routine device swapping excuse.
It's not merely bad actors in the organization, something is fucked up about the very institution/culture which transcends individuals and persists despite personnel turnover through the years.
FelineOverlord
(3,590 posts)FelineOverlord
(3,590 posts)gab13by13
(21,385 posts)Who watches the watchers?
dhol82
(9,353 posts)They smell like three day old fish.
stollen
(419 posts)and that's what you do when you protect; erase things.
Cha
(297,574 posts)Simple!
ecstatic
(32,729 posts)from Stacey Abrams. But I digress...
spudspud
(511 posts)Secret Service Spokesman: We take great issue with these accusations and I will be speaking out about this shortly!!
**Huffs back to office. Calls a meeting with SS agents.**
Secret Service Spokesman: Ok guys. This is clearly a bullshit story right? We're not the baddies, are we?
SS Agents: **crickets**
Secret Service Spokesman: Guys? Guys?
keithbvadu2
(36,887 posts)What needs to be kept so secret, Secret Service?
KS Toronado
(17,310 posts)for any involvement some agents had in the insurrection. Did Pence refuse to get in a limo with
them Jan 6th because he knew something he's never shared with the public?
FelineOverlord
(3,590 posts)slightlv
(2,829 posts)we had migrations at DoD, too. We didn't lose any of our data, tho...
bringthePaine
(1,730 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)crickets
(25,982 posts)Xoan
(25,322 posts)No Contest.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,403 posts)Just how many MAGAts are above the law?