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Jackie Speier rips Republican on the House floor for flashing cash during abortion rights bill debat (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2022 OP
Also Mast Nevilledog Jul 2022 #1
Arrest him for trying to bribe members of Congress. n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #2
That's how he got the twenty. keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #14
LOL! Mr.Bill Jul 2022 #16
One Medal of Freedom, long overdue for this person UTUSN Jul 2022 #3
+1 musette_sf Jul 2022 #7
It's simple-- I don't know when life begins, and neither do you. So you can't pass a law... TreasonousBastard Jul 2022 #4
If you're a bible person leftieNanner Jul 2022 #8
Jewish people BonnieJW Jul 2022 #15
The Bible has all the answers... ALL of them... Cherry pick the ones that are preferred. keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #18
I don't read the second link's verses as wnylib Jul 2022 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #9
EXACTLY. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #12
I so wish that Jackie Speier wasn't retiring. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2022 #5
I hear you. But she has served long and well. dchill Jul 2022 #10
Agreed. She has been a great asset to her constituents and to her country. No Vested Interest Jul 2022 #11
is this their new "gotcha" question? like asking "what is a woman" IcyPeas Jul 2022 #6
Originalism is only important to this court when it suits them. halfulglas Jul 2022 #13
Why does everyone forget the 9th amendment? AZLD4Candidate Jul 2022 #17
A very important question! lastlib Jul 2022 #20
How about 13 and 14? No slavery or involuntary servitude; equal protection. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #21

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. It's simple-- I don't know when life begins, and neither do you. So you can't pass a law...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jul 2022

based on ignorance.

leftieNanner

(15,127 posts)
8. If you're a bible person
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 09:11 PM
Jul 2022

That particular book says that life begins when a baby takes its first breath.

But I think that's not the part of the bible that this dude would like to quote.

BonnieJW

(2,266 posts)
15. Jewish people
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 10:09 PM
Jul 2022

Believe a baby is viable when it is eight days old. We don't name our babies or perform circumcision on the boys until they are eight days old.

It all depends on which religion you follow. So how can anyone make decisions for everyone????

wnylib

(21,500 posts)
19. I don't read the second link's verses as
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:07 PM
Jul 2022

confirmation of life beginning at conception, or as a prohibition of abortion. The verses express a belief that certain persons were destined to be born and that an all knowing God knew this before conception and before the person was born. The verses indicate that God took part in ensuring the development and birth of certain leaders, like Paul.

But considering all the fertilized eggs that get passed out of a woman's body without even implanting in the uterus, or the fetuses that end in miscarriage, or the doomed embryos in the fallopian tubes or elsewhere in an ectopic pregnancy, it looks like God does not ensure the development and birth of every fertilized egg.



Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #4)

ShazzieB

(16,428 posts)
12. EXACTLY.
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 09:14 PM
Jul 2022

If he actually thinks there's a simple answer that everyone will agree with, he's a maroon.

If he asked me that question, I'd say, "Define life." And, "Do you mean 'human' life or just life?"

When I got bored of watching him squirm, I'd see myself out.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
13. Originalism is only important to this court when it suits them.
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jul 2022

I love Jackie Speir. I can't imagine flying to California and back every week in addition to flying on congressional trips.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,700 posts)
17. Why does everyone forget the 9th amendment?
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 10:22 PM
Jul 2022

Right to travel and right to privacy are 9th amendment.

9th amendment pretty much says people have other rights not written in the Bill of Rights.

Why does everyone seem to forget the words "or to the people respectively" in the 10th amendment?

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
20. A very important question!
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:19 PM
Jul 2022

I think Alito and his fellow SCOTUS twits were afraid to even address the matter because they couldn't refute it--it was just too big for them.

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