Anybody else here remember the Secret Service scandal involving

[niyad]

prostitutes in South America in 2013? I just looked it up, and found even more stories. And Peter King, in charge of the Congressional investigations, gave the SS and its durector a pass on the lying.

[John1956PA]

1. Thanks. I've been reflecting on that 2013 report ever since the new revelations emerged. n/t

[dalton99a]

2. Yep. 11 Secret Service agents and 20 hookers - Sen. Collins was concerned

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793
US Secret Service Cartagena scandal 'involved 20 women'
18 April 2012

The US Secret Service prostitution scandal involved as many as 20 women, 11 American agents and some military personnel, senior US officials say.

Senator Susan Collins, briefed by the Secret Service director, said 20 women were found at the US hotel.

The incidents took place in Cartagena, Colombia, ahead of last weekend's Summit of the Americas.

On Monday, the head of the US armed forces said the Secret Service and the military had "let the boss down".

Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan was "rightly appalled by the agents' actions and is pursuing a vigorous internal investigation", Ms Collins said in a statement.

[niyad]

3. And that was not the only set of incidents with the service and prostitutues.

[erronis]

26. Nor the only time Sen. Collins has been concerned. I'd reword her utterances as "disturbed."

[niyad]

27. sadly true.

[Me.]

4. One Assaulted A Woman Just The Other Day

[niyad]

5. Why am I not surprised? Perhaps they should all undergo revetting and psych

evaluations..

[Me.]

6. THe SS Needs A Top Down Clean Out

and perhaps we should name it something other than the SS

[niyad]

7. Definitely agree. Had been thinking of the name.

[Samrob]

9. Same for the FBI Justice Dept in general. nt

[malthaussen]

8. Yes, and there have been a few other little peccadillos...

... including suspicions of infiltration by white supremacist assholes, like every other law enforcement agency in the country. I've long suspected something is fragrant in the State of Denmark.

-- Mal

[NBachers]

10. I read Carol Leoning's Book "Zero Fail," and I recommend it highly. It's a damning look at a

dysfunctional and out-of-control agency.

I hope the current spotlight on the Secret Service resurrects interest in the Navy Yard incident, in which agents became involved and influenced by a couple of Secret Agent cosplay grifters. Arian Taherzadeh and Haider Ali were arrested in an FBI raid on April 6th. They had been posing as Federal Special Police agents, and had compromised four Secret Service agents with gifts and free penthouse apartments. They were freed on bail after the government failed to make a case against them, and I can't find any later information on their case.

[stopdiggin]

19. that one was a real piece of work

And I couldn't understand why the agency wasn't literally screaming and pulling it's hair out by the roots.

Infiltration? Compromise? Security lapse?
What .. the ever loving .. F__ !

[jaxexpat]

21. Praetorians got pull.......and REACH, too.

But they shouldn't feel too bad. It happened with the Templars as well.

[Dustlawyer]

11. Law enforcement and the military have been predominantly Republican.

When the Orange Shiteler took office the RW media went for it and all Republican LE and military believed like the other RW nut jobs. We have to do something about the propaganda!

[BlueIdaho]

12. If you want to see a record of Secret Service disasters

Read Zero Fail by Carol Leonnig. She has reported on the Secret Service in the Washington Post for over a decade. Seems she knows where all the bodies are buried.

[paleotn]

13. Colombia. 2012

Not only extraordinarily bad behavior, but a security and intel breach of gargantuan proportions. The gross lapses in judgment continue. I think the entire organization needs to be stripped down and rebuilt.

[Irish_Dem]

14. How is this stuff not a security risk?

The agents pull this crap when they are out of town guarding POTUS.
Prostitutes, booze, drugs the night before they are supposed to be working.
Or maybe even when they are on duty, who knows.

They certainly are not ready for an emergency situation.
And could give away security information.

[AllaN01Bear]

15. i wanna know why they stood down in dallas and stepped of the limo.

[stopdiggin]

18. conspiracy crap.

let's try to stick to current issues (which are myriad and serious) without falling back on conspiracy phantoms.
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[dflprincess]

25. I've given up hope that we'll ever get the truth on Dallas

The road to January 6th didn't start with Trump.

[moniss]

28. A couple of years ago

I posted a lengthy discussion about another odd detail. The entire investigation was immediately put in the hands of the Dallas PD. Imagine that. The most powerful man in the world, a US President, has been struck down and our most powerful investigative/intelligence agencies immediately hand off the investigation to a bunch of goobers from Dallas. On what planet would this even be logical? But by doing so those same powerful people would be able to forever deflect blame for any handling of the investigation. A rational person would think that the FBI would immediately assume the lead. But J Edgar wasn't a fan. The Dallas PD should have been way in the background of any investigation. They didn't even provide decent security when transferring Oswald. Despite knowing all of the heightened gun-toting and emotions they paraded him out there for the media etc. Also for any old strip club buddies who just might want to happen by. Well Golly Gee. What a shame that accused won't be able to talk!! Oops!! Why how could us top notch goobers from the Dallas PD have any idea that might happen? The whole thing was no accident. Just like Epstein. Nobody should be so gullible. Although many are and they count on that. Committing these acts is nothing to these people. Getting found out is why they destroy evidence, silence those who could talk etc.

[Mustellus]

16. It took only a couple of Emperors...

.. for the Praetorian Guard, charged with protecting the emperor... to decide it was better to choose the next emperor.


Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[dlk]

17. I remember this scandal and it was just swept under the rug

Given recent events, including critical evidence from a failed coup being deleted by SS members, actual accountability is long overdue, as well as a thorough housecleaning. Racism and other isms are deeply interwoven into our culture, unfortunately, and the corruption they bring never take a day off.

[bottomofthehill]

24. Not quite swept under the rug, national and international news.

9 of the 12 supervisors and agents the were investigated were terminated, resigned or retired. Three of those investigated were cleared of wrong doing. 75 percent removal rate is hardly swept under the rug to me.

[dlk]

31. And here we are again

Maybe even more should have been done.

[Kali]

20. was it that long ago?

[rurallib]

22. I sure remember that two bullets were found to have been shot into the Obama White House

into the girls bedrooms. Fortunately the girls were gone that weekend so no one was hurt. As I recall it was quickly hushed up.

[moniss]

23. The SS

FBI and CIA all have a long history of obstructing congressional investigations. The Church Committee/Pike Committee hearings in the 1970's are a classic example. Destruction of records, lying to Congress, obfuscation, lawsuits etc. were all employed to try and prevent the Congress from getting at the truth. "Pardon Me" Gerald Ford was right in the thick of it. But just to show the extent to which they will go I would point out the murder of Sam Giancana. The former Chicago mob boss was due to testify and spill his guts about CIA/FBI involvement in working with the mafia to kill Castro etc. The hearings were held during the daytime and were broadcast on PBS. The afternoon before the scheduled appearance of Giancana the commentators all made a big deal about how explosive his testimony was likely to be the next morning. However the next morning came and early in the morning the Chicago media broke the story that Giancana had been found murdered at his home in suburban Chicago. I thought surely the Committee would immediately raise hell. Didn't happen and they more or less moved on. So let's recap this episode a little. One of the most notorious crime bosses has agreed to come in and tell about the CIA/FBI wrongdoing. You would think anybody with half a brain might realize that there should be a security detail around Sam. But the story by the Feds? Oops!! Our bad. Does this sound slightly familiar to Epstein? Sure does. The one man posing the largest danger to the most powerful political and business leaders in the world isn't provided with ironclad security during his detention. Oops!! We are supposed to believe that the most sophisticated and powerful investigative/intelligence agencies in the world were somehow less adept at security than the shoplifting squad at Walmart. Sure thing.

[H2O Man]

29. Recommended.

Good call.

[BlackSkimmer]

30. And there was a recent mess during Biden's tenure in some foreign country.

Drunkenness and who knows what else. I've forgotten the details, but the SS may need to take a good long look at itself.