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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAOC: If you want to know what subconscious bias looks like, it's a headline saying...
EDIT: The actual tweet (I couldn't post it originally because I was having issues w/Twitter. It is from 2019):
Link to tweet
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,017 posts)an afterthought that may or may not get "special" mention.
Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)A song by Todd Snider, Conservative Christian Right Wing Republican, Straight White American Male. I may get ARd playing that song in my set list. I have to be carful to READ the Crowd. Thats pretty easy, they have a look. Too much red or any hat thats red, I will play some Lee Greenwood
.NOT!!!!! Fuck em. They never come to my venues, usually micro breweries. They dont sell Bud Light, Bush, or Natty light, and the TVs never show NASCAR or Fox and. I pool tables.
Great Song, check it out. Todds a great genius lyricist.
soldierant
(6,890 posts)Maybe I can save others a little time ...
Lyrics
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/toddsnider/conservativechristianrightwingrepublicanstraightwhiteamericanmales.html
Video
Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 16, 2022, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)
In my set list that is so now appropriate. Shawn Mullins, Apocalyptic Blues. The shit he speaks of is about to go down. Cheers. Thanks for the Video share. Seen him 4 times at the Orange Peel in Asheville. (pre Covid) (Im on the tree huggin Hippie side of Todds song🥴
Correction: PreApocaliptic Blues sorry. Auto correct did not like the pre part.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)I may have to own a few of those adjectives!
Docreed2003
(16,866 posts)Would suggest a couple songs from a group called "My Politic". The first "Short Sighted People in power" and the second "Fantasies of a Fox News Viewer".
Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)I will. Cheers.
soldierant
(6,890 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 17, 2022, 09:25 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm a bit rushed tonight, but I will.
On edit - I found the lyics to both you mentioned here (RNC Blues is also there.0
http://www.mypoliticmusic.com/lyrics-chords
And I found their YouTube channel, but none of those recorded. Bookmarking anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/user/MyPoliticMusic/videos
Thanks again.
Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)For the heads up on The Politic. Lovin it. Picked a few I will learn and add to my sets. Talkin RNC Blues cracks me up. Great find, I may get killed, but we all live in danger now, right. Thanks again, cheers to ya.
Docreed2003
(16,866 posts)I had the chance to hear them for the first time a couple months ago at a charity event here in Nashville for Planned Parenthood. They are great and both of them are incredibly down to earth and really humble.
Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)In Nashville for Planned Parenthood. I will no longer whine about me being in danger here playing political music. Kudos for their bravery. Thanks again. Gonna be looking for em.
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)He is my very favorite. Never saw this. He ALWAYS has Good storys at his shows. Not recommended for kids but great fir us adults. We need to laugh, and spin around a lot more.
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)ananda
(28,868 posts)....
Magoo48
(4,717 posts)Maraya1969
(22,486 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,081 posts)...women & nonwhite describes 69% of the population. Adjust for white males in that age group & she's likely net positive with 80-85% of people.
If the headline she references is real, it's pretty stupid.
caraher
(6,278 posts)I think it's a critique of a FOX news article (won't post link because of DU rules) that includes, toward the end, the following:
The actual headline is even more misleading: "Ocasio-Cortez's 'unfavorable' rating skyrockets, with most people viewing her negatively: poll"
Celerity
(43,422 posts)caraher
(6,278 posts)Since AOC referred to a headline I expected a news source (or should I say "news source" with scare quotes?).
Celerity
(43,422 posts)but the tweet link is in AOC's tweet
it just was deleted, so I have to dig around for it
here are some of the headlines about the Gallup poll
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/16/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-polls-like-trump-poll-of-the-week/index.html
The congresswomans high profile so early in her term is exceeded only by that of Hillary Clinton in 2001, Gallup says.
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-03-15/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-unfavorable-rating-climbs-gallup
and of course, the most biased of them all, Fucks Newz:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-unfavorable-rating-sky-rockets-most-people-view-her-negatively-new-poll-shows
here is that twitter account's (@NumbersMuncher) 2nd tweet back then btw, as I showed they deleted the first one (the one AOC referenced) and tossed up a revised version
Link to tweet
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Seeing that she is plus 4 among all women, she is obviously worse than minus 14 for all men, as women are slightly more than 50 percent of the population.
There is even a bigger difference between old people and young people.
ZonkerHarris
(24,230 posts)gulliver
(13,186 posts)I'm generally opposed to the concept of groups and, even more, to the concept of talking about whether one is underwater or above water with "them." I like data and, when it comes to conclusions, especially rhetorical implications, I like to see the work used to obtain the answer provided. This is not AOC at her best, IMO.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Pinback
(12,158 posts)Welcome to DU!
stopdiggin
(11,320 posts)why coming back around now - on DU? Like Alex - but feeling a little bit stupid that I've just spent 10 minutes on something she said 3 years ago.
(Note: the OP has now been edited to reflect)
retread
(3,763 posts)relentless barrage of propaganda raining down on us all..
ZZenith
(4,124 posts)SunImp
(2,224 posts)"It's just facts & I'm going to attack that person & negatively generalize people I think support them." Why can't we just stop all that & just focus on beating Republicans?
Biophilic
(3,666 posts)is that I'm not sure I ever would have understood why that statement about "everyone except" irritated me so much. Damn these things are so deeply embedded. Yeah, I've been living it for 76 years, but most of those years I was at least half way awake and tried to see through the mists. These are hard times we are living through, but it sure it bringing the shit to the surface and making it easier to see and understand what's been going on for ever.
Lovie777
(12,290 posts)spanone
(135,847 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Does that mean AOC decided it was a bad tweet?
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,436 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)The woman will tear you to shreds.
Upthevibe
(8,054 posts)PWPippinesq
(195 posts)And, definitely a Presidential contender someday.
MinisterPathos
(64 posts)Articulate. Educated. Caring.
sop
(10,206 posts)MinisterPathos
(64 posts)They want it, they get it with her!
Solly Mack
(90,775 posts)Patton French
(758 posts)Forget subconscious.
MinisterPathos
(64 posts)We need a few more of her.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,770 posts)Their mind will see that phrase and their comprehension will go no further.
Media professionals know this. In fact, they count on it and many craft their "news stories" around it.
An old advertising trick. They know people will read "Nine out of ten dentists recommend Puke-It-Up gum" and miss the part that says "for their patients who chew gum".
LakeArenal
(28,826 posts)Got it.
White people are going to lose 2022 by those same people.
Tickle
(2,525 posts)is that 35 is so not old.
I'm double that so you can imagine my surprise
Celerity
(43,422 posts)Progressive dog
(6,905 posts)but the headline doesn't match.
This poll is very similar to a February Fox News poll, which gave Ocasio-Cortez a -13 point net favorability rating because of a 26% favorable rating and a 39% unfavorable rating.
Headline
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/16/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-polls-like-trump-poll-of-the-week/index.html
stopdiggin
(11,320 posts)in general terms. (although an awful lot of politicians deal with them - and the parties themselves are so far underwater as to need dive chambers). But Ocasio-Cortez did a clever job of 'spinning' this one. Smart cookie.
Bucky
(54,027 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,108 posts)IronLionZion
(45,465 posts)it's comical and frustrating at the same time
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Hiawatha Pete
(1,799 posts)Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Chin music This message was self-deleted by its author.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)even from non-rightwingnuts (though far more from them, of course).
bringthePaine
(1,729 posts)Azathoth
(4,610 posts)The complement of that headline is not that she's underwater with "older white men" -- polling usually isn't done along intersectional categories.
What it means is she's underwater with all the other groups in each demographic category, ie. she's underwater with a majority of voters over the age of 34, and she's underwater with male voters, and she's underwater with white voters.
Pinback
(12,158 posts)and went on to retain her seat in the 2020 general election, winning in November by 44 points. Seems Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is above water with quite a few people in her district.
https://ballotpedia.org/New_York%27s_14th_Congressional_District_election,_2020
burrowowl
(17,641 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)I hope she gets to sta around for a long time.
betsuni
(25,549 posts)rpannier
(24,330 posts)I guess the humiliation of posting something that stupid became apparent
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Go Alexandria!