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So the "upgrade" erased only text messages from the 5th and 6th on certain phones?
Was Tony Ornato involved in this as he has now returned to the Secret Service after Trump left?
As deputy chief of staff could Ornato started this the right of the 6th or after?
Sorry on my kindle tablet. I sometimes find autocorrect kicks in after I hit post.
Walleye
(31,056 posts)2naSalit
(86,794 posts)Mark Karlin
(1 post)How Secret Service May Have Colluded to Whisk Pence From Capitol and Have Trump Declared Winner
https://buzzflash.com/articles/how-secret-service-may-have-colluded-to-whisk-pence-from-capitol-on-jan-6-and-have-trump-declared-winner
Needless to say, BuzzFlash is not a fan of conspiracy theories. However, the bombshell that the pro-Trump Secret Service deleted crucial text messages from January 5 and January 6, 2021, may be a connect the dots moment. Its not just that this excised communication may have corroborated Cassidy Hutchinsons second-hand account of Trump lunging for the steering wheel and grabbing a Secret Service member to try and compel them to drive him to the Capitol after the January 6 rally.
There might be something much more profoundly concerning that might have made the Secret Service collaborators in Trumps coup plot.
Lets begin with a July 16, 2021, article from the Independent that begins is entitled, Mike Pence refused to get in car amid 6 January riots fearing Secret Service conspiracy, reports claim:
Former Vice President Mike Pence purportedly refused to get into a vehicle with secret service agents amid the 6 January riots out of fear there was a conspiracy to vindicate the insurrection
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Mr Pence refused to evacuate the Capitol a number of times on 6 January as pro-Trump rioters stormed the building in a bid to prevent the certification of the 2020 election results.
Amid the riots Mr Pence was evacuated from the Senate chamber to his ceremonial office, where he remained protected by secret service agents alongside members of his family.
Then, lets move to an eye-raising detail involving the oldest member of the Senate, Charles Grassley (R-IA), about a January 5, 2021, comment he quickly backtracked on. Heather Cox Richardson recalled the short-lived claim in her July 13 column:
On January 5, Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA), who was the president pro tempore of the Senate, the second highest-ranking person in the Senate after the vice president, told reporters about the next day: Well, first of all, I will beif the Vice President isnt there and we don't expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate. His office immediately clarified that Grassley meant only that he would preside over counting of the Electoral Votes only if Vice President Mike Pence had to step away during Wednesdays proceedings, and that [e]very indication we have is that the vice president will be there.
Richardson writes that the largely forgotten we dont expect him [Pence] to be there statement combined with Grassleys claim that he would then preside over the electoral count continues to bother her, as it should. Grassleys statement appears, given that democracy was at stake, as something more than casual. It seems to reflect the possibility of someone who knew of Trump-world plans, but was quickly told to retract his prediction.
If Grassley, who did eventually vote to accept the Biden victory, had been presiding over the electoral count, who knows if he would have accepted the Biden electors in the swing states, given the strenuous pressure from team Trump? His eye-popping statement of January 5 certainly raises that question. Why would Pence need to step away? Why would Grassley even consider such a possibility the day before the count and insurrection unless he knew more than he was saying? Why was Pence fearful of the Secret Service driving him from the Capitol, with the result being, amidst the mob activity still in full swing at the time, that the electoral count would be delayed indefinitely or Grassley would preside over it when it resumed if Pence had complied?
This leads to the erasure of Secret Service texts from January 5 and 6 in 2021. According to a July 15 article in The Washington Post:
A government watchdog accused the U.S. Secret Service of erasing texts from Jan. 5 and 6, 2021, after his office requested them as part of an inquiry into the U.S. Capitol attack, according to a letter sent to lawmakers this week.
Joseph V. Cuffari, head of the Department of Homeland Securitys Office of Inspector General, wrote to the leaders of the House and Senate Homeland Security committees indicating that the text messages have vanished and that efforts to investigate the Jan. 6, 2021, attack were being hindered
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Cuffari emphasized that the erasures came after the Office of Inspector General requested copies of the text messages for its own investigation
Maybe it is just as whacky as a Qanon conspiracy, but we hope the January 6 Committee is seeing if the dots connect.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)euphorb
(279 posts)We know that that the OIG asked for text messages for the 5th and 6th. Secret Service responded that they were erased. What we don't know is whether a broader swath of dates, including dates that were not asked for, were also erased.
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)You can bet all sorts of other records were destroyed as well.
Novara
(5,851 posts)Why the hell haven't all these former people been kicked out? We're well in the second year of Biden's presidency.