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The last hearing is going to be about Trump doing nothing as he watched on TV the capital being attacked. All kinds of people called him to call it off. He refused, which means he wanted it to happen. Which means he is guilty.
Because of this I believe he is criminally responsible for all the injuries and deaths at the capital.
He called the crowd together. He incited the crowd. He sent the crowd to the capital. He then watched the crowd attack the capital for 187 minutes and did nothing. The evidence is overwhelming and it must be prosecuted.
gab13by13
(21,447 posts)Wasn't it Mike Pence who called in the National Guard and not Donald Trump?
I have faith in Fani Willis, she may actually indict Trump before 2024.
YoshidaYui
(41,867 posts)Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
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MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)that makes it even worse, he wanted an ARMED coup, he wanted bodies up to and including his own VP.
2naSalit
(86,867 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)I'm just going to go back to my original stance on those gloom and doom posts, I'll just refuse to respond to them, i have a lot better things to do.
samnsara
(17,650 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)but he's a civilian, and being as this coward was never in the military, he didn't even hold any military rank.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)...it would be very incriminating.
gab13by13
(21,447 posts)Cassie Hutchinson had warned him not to go to the war room but that would not have kept him from calling in...
Historic NY
(37,457 posts)beating the cops like piñata's.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)attempt and ARMED insurrection when he thought they would prevail.
Novara
(5,860 posts)... by one of the convicted seditionists (paraphrased):
If he would have called us off earlier, we would have left earlier.
Ayres made it clear that they were doing the orange fuck's bidding. They were following his orders. He always had the power to call them off. He knew if he told them to leave, they would leave.
He wanted it all to happen. He wanted Pence hung because he didn't follow his illegal order. He wanted his mob to hunt down congresspeople and harm them, if not kill them. He tried to get Pence away from the building so he couldn't do his duty.
He always had the power to stop it and he didn't. He reveled in it, knowing they weren't there to harm HIM.
Escurumbele
(3,407 posts)By trump not doing anything for 187 minutes his inaction was the action, he needed to do nothing in order for the mob to carry on with the plans they had already made. The idea was to remove Pence and some Congress officials from the Capitol in order to stop the count, allowing the mob to carry on creating fear which they hoped would make Pence and some others want to leave the Capitol thus stopping the count.
Inaction was HIS ACTION.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)He sent the armed mob to the Capitol, he wanted dead bodies, including his own VP, so he could invoke the insurrection act and complete his armed coup, at this point, there is zero doubt about his treason.
Escurumbele
(3,407 posts)Anyone who doubts it, in the media or anywhere else doesn't want to face the facts. Charles Manson did not physically kill Sharon Tate and the others at that house, his inaction was his action, his planning was his culpability, and thanks to Vincent Bugliosi, he put him in jail for life. The same legal code Bugliosi used against Manson is the same code he wrote about in his book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder", where he also provides the blue print to go after Bush, Ramsfeld, Chaney, Powell, Rice, etc. The same legal code would work against trump.
A fundamental purpose of Penal Code section 1324 is to make possible the prosecution of criminal conspiracies. (People v. Pineda (1973) 30 Cal.
[link:https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/3d/61/102.html|
There is plenty information and witnesses to go after trump, that the DOJ seems to be reluctant is the biggest crisis to ever hit this country, if it holds and the DOJ does not prosecute, because if trump goes on with his life unaccountable that will be the destruction of our Democracy, and "the rule of law/no one is above the law", which many of us doubt exists anyway, will be insignificant to all, it will also be an open door for corrupt people like trump to pursue power, and we are already seeing that. trump's legacy will be that he showed corrupt politicians how to game Democracy, the Constitution, the Intelligence Agencies, the military, as well show that corruption exists in all levels of government, that patriotism is just an empty word for these people who go into office, power kills everything else, and government becomes the tool of the unprincipled.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)stall the law enforcement response long enough for the insurrectionists to wreak havoc and kill politicians, including the VP.
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kentuck
(111,110 posts)His plan was for his people to take over the Capitol and he could declare "martial law". They had a month's supply of food and weapons on way. The plan was for Democrats to never set foot inside the Capitol again. When he heard that the NG were on the way, he called off his mob and told them to go home, that he loved them.
The National Guard messed up his entire plan, in my opinion.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)It's tragic that our election might have hinged on one person, the VP, doing his job, what galls me to this day is that POS Pence still refuses to condemn him for setting that armed mob to kill him, there's really no other way to put it.
IMHO, Trump is guilty of Treason, Insurrection, Murder, Attempted Murder, Incitement to a Riot, Obstruction, just to name a few.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)And I cannot believe that Trump was not communicating with them in some manner, as the attack upon our Capitol was taking place.
It was called a "war room" for a reason.
It was for what was happening in those 187 minutes that are unaccounted for.