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hookaleft

(939 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:03 PM Jul 2022

Please tell me that TFG can't win in 2024

Someone talk me down. I can't imagine living through another term. The MAGAts will be worse than ever.

And while you are at it: Please tell me we are not going to lose the House and Senate in the mid-terms.

Either way pm me a benzo.

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Please tell me that TFG can't win in 2024 (Original Post) hookaleft Jul 2022 OP
Understand!! PortTack Jul 2022 #1
He can't. Even 15% of Republicans refuse to vote for him. blm Jul 2022 #2
I feel you, hookaleft - cilla4progress Jul 2022 #3
He lost by 2.8 million votes in 2016; by 7.1 million votes in 2020 gratuitous Jul 2022 #4
I agree 1000%! MyOwnPeace Jul 2022 #14
What worries me is what dirty shenanigans Emile Jul 2022 #5
Yeah that worries me too. The Nazis aren't even trying too hard to hide their efforts. captain queeg Jul 2022 #6
Yep, has NOTHING to do with actual voting anymore. Maybe this Nov the politician who wins Eliot Rosewater Jul 2022 #10
He barely lost in 2020 so he can certainly win again if people don't stay engaged. Ace Rothstein Jul 2022 #7
He's not winning in 2024 AkFemDem Jul 2022 #8
I don't think he could win their primary today, much less in two years. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #9
If he ran today he's win Polybius Jul 2022 #11
The musclecar6 Jul 2022 #12
I want to be positive, but I'm afraid Trump could win again and we might lose the House/Senate liberal_mama Jul 2022 #13
Where will we be in 2024? robodruid1 Jul 2022 #15
No way can he win - he lost last time and after 4 years of misery no way with walkingman Jul 2022 #16
He can't win. The plan is to lose again. That could be as bad or worse. Runningdawg Jul 2022 #17
I Don't Think He'll Get The 'R' NOmination ... PBC_Democrat Jul 2022 #18
having him on the ballot will energize dems AlexSFCA Jul 2022 #19
What I think EnergizedLib Jul 2022 #20
He can't be allowed to run. MissMillie Jul 2022 #21
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #22
His clan & ilk, as the saying goes. At this point he could drop dead, & Trumpism would remain... Hekate Jul 2022 #23
If we had a popular vote system, I would say he definitely cannot win. roamer65 Jul 2022 #24
TFG Can't Win In 2024. ruet Jul 2022 #25
TFG can't win in 2024 sarisataka Jul 2022 #26
Not Worried About Trump DET Jul 2022 #27
He'll probably declare after the mid-terms. Xolodno Jul 2022 #28
He can't win a LEGITIMATELY HELD election DFW Jul 2022 #29

cilla4progress

(24,784 posts)
3. I feel you, hookaleft -
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jul 2022

I won't be surprised if things get worse before they get better.

This flirtation with fascism America is having...but, I do expect it has an expiration date.

Pendulums swing.

Hope that helps.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. He lost by 2.8 million votes in 2016; by 7.1 million votes in 2020
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jul 2022

Is there something you're seeing that convinces you that those millions and millions of voters are suddenly going to cast a ballot for the former guy in 2024? What has he done since losing so bigly a mere 20 months ago that will reverse his standing with a majority of the nation's voters?

Don't listen to people who draw their paycheck by stirring the political shit.

MyOwnPeace

(16,941 posts)
14. I agree 1000%!
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jul 2022

Again, what has he 'done' that could possibly convince 1 who voted AGAINST him before to switch and vote FOR him?

That being said, I DO believe the Deomcrats could/should be continually posting the POSITIVE things that Joe and the Dems have done since we did get rid of IQ45. THESE NEED TO BE HEARD!!!!

Emile

(23,034 posts)
5. What worries me is what dirty shenanigans
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jul 2022

Republicans have up their sleeves to steal elections. They been working hard changing state election laws all over the country.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
10. Yep, has NOTHING to do with actual voting anymore. Maybe this Nov the politician who wins
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jul 2022

will win, maybe not. GOP hates voting.

CrispyQ

(36,542 posts)
9. I don't think he could win their primary today, much less in two years.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

Time has not been kind to the orange piece of shit. A lot can change in two years, but right now, I'd put my money on DeSantis. And I wish I could tell you that he can't win, but he most certainly can win.

As far as the house & senate, it's not a given that we will lose one or the other. I thought the economy would be the overriding issue, but I think the Roe issue is going to be a lot bigger than I first thought, cuz the repubs are taking it to such extremes. People are repulsed by children being forced to give childbirth, alarmed that travel restrictions for women are actually being considered, & pissed off at talk of banning birth control. And then there's Thomas' statement about other rights SCOTUS wants to strike down.

We're at the place where every election is the most important election of your life & we're partly here because too many of us didn't treat previous elections that way.

Polybius

(15,510 posts)
11. If he ran today he's win
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jul 2022

But he might be in jail by 2023, or perhaps just under house arrest, but barred from ever running again.

musclecar6

(1,693 posts)
12. The
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jul 2022


Orange Nazi appealed to the naive and or complete dumbass’s cause he “got them”. Yeah he got them alright as he conned lied and cheated them just like the dirt bag completely amoral real estate/ car salesman he is. He’s just a dumb shit who’s always looking for an angle to fuck someone ( in his case literally and figuratively as grab em in the pussy Donny).

So unfortunately for him and fortunately for us, he went too far with the insurrection stunt, so not even he can con his way out of this one. That’s not to say De Santis or some other version of a TFFG megalomaniac may get the nomination, but after the J6 committee has done such a good job of spelling it out for enough independent and moderate republicans, in my opinion our would be totalitarian menace is finished.

Of course that won’t stop him from continuing to fleece his MAGA moron flock out of their money contributing to all his bullshit causes, which is just funds that go strictly into his personal pocket. After all, as Michael Cohen tried to warn people if they were paying attention, he’s a con man liar and a cheat. Mic drop.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
13. I want to be positive, but I'm afraid Trump could win again and we might lose the House/Senate
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jul 2022

There just doesn't seem to be enough outrage about Roe. People are angry about inflation, the pandemic, gas prices. Even my democratic friends and family members are constantly complaining. People on social media are saying they won't vote for a republican, but they might not vote at all. I'm in New York and worried we will end up with a republican governor.

 

robodruid1

(84 posts)
15. Where will we be in 2024?
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jul 2022

What will the price of gas be?
What will the price of hamburger be?
Interest rate?
Unemployment rate?

Are we still supplying arms to Ukraine? Poland? Finland?


walkingman

(7,673 posts)
16. No way can he win - he lost last time and after 4 years of misery no way with
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jul 2022

one exception and that is if SCOTUS allows state legislators to decide electors going forward. Then all bets are off and we have lost what little is left. I sure that the "originalists" would love to see only white male landowners decide everything for this nation.

Now tell me again how brilliant our founding fathers were.....

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
18. I Don't Think He'll Get The 'R' NOmination ...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jul 2022

I think we have a 50/50 shot at holding the Senate
I think we're going to lose the HoR.

The experts are predicting a jump in gas prices in late Sept/early Oct.

If I was writing ads for the 'D's - I'd focus on the info coming from the J6 commission and a pledge to codify Roe vs Wade.

I'd immediately remove marijuana from the narcotics list.
I'd give VP Harris a project she could get a big win on. It would have to go better than the immigration project. I think Pres Biden will be to old the run in '24, so it's time to start improving the VP's reputation.

If I was writing ads for the 'R's - I'd focus on the prices of every day items on Jan 19th, 2021 and the prices now. I'd focus on the gas shortages, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the immigration numbers.

As always it'll come down down to who can reach the non-political majority of the country that doesn't watch the Sunday news, or read 25 page plans to address a situation.

People make fun of bumper sticker slogans, but that's what people remember. We need one for issue on the table.

EnergizedLib

(1,901 posts)
20. What I think
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jul 2022

Unfortunately, trump can win in 2024. Will he? I don’t know. Should he? Heck no.

I do think us or even gaining a seat or two in the Senate is plausible. The House might be another story.

Hekate

(90,870 posts)
23. His clan & ilk, as the saying goes. At this point he could drop dead, & Trumpism would remain...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:34 PM
Jul 2022

The white nationalist “Christian” movement has been set in motion.

Sorry I have no words of comfort today.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
24. If we had a popular vote system, I would say he definitely cannot win.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:36 PM
Jul 2022

However, with the idiotic Electoral College, I cannot say it.

DET

(1,324 posts)
27. Not Worried About Trump
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:59 PM
Jul 2022

I don’t think he’ll even run. He’s just pretending to as part of the perpetual grift. Even if his mind and body can handle a run, his ego can’t since he knows he’d lose. DeSantis and his fellow sociopaths are the real ones to be concerned about.

Xolodno

(6,406 posts)
28. He'll probably declare after the mid-terms.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:21 PM
Jul 2022

To get any other potential Repubs out of the way. DeSantis and Cruz have painted themselves as Trump's heir, him running could thwart that.

If he can win, that's a loaded question. He can't win the popular vote. But the electoral vote? That's a different story. A lot can happen between now and then.

For example, if we codify abortion and he runs on retracting that. That's not going to help him. But if we fail to codify it and he runs on leaving it to the states...that gets him out from the spot light.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
29. He can't win a LEGITIMATELY HELD election
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:25 PM
Jul 2022

But, then again, he didn't do that the first time, either.

And, if anything, voting rights suppression targeting Democrats is approaching a high art, as opposed to the relatively primitive stage it was at in 2016.

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