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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,304 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:57 PM Jul 2022

Ted Cruz still obsessing over gay marriage

Ted Cruz says Supreme Court was ‘clearly wrong’ with 2015 same-sex marriage ruling

Sen. Ted Cruz said the Supreme Court was off base in 2015 for its ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges that legalized same-sex marriage and believes it should be reconsidered.

"I think that decision was clearly wrong when it was decided," Cruz said on his podcast published Sunday, Verdict With Ted Cruz. "It was the court overreaching.

"Obergefell, like Roe v. Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation’s history. Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states. We saw states before Obergefell, some states were moving to allow gay marriage, other states were moving to allow civil partnerships. There were different standards that the states were adopting."

Cruz's remarks come on the heels of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade and determining there is no federal constitutional right to an abortion. Last month, Justice Clarence Thomas referred to the 2015 ruling as "demonstrably erroneous" and suggested the court revisit other rulings.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-says-supreme-court-was-clearly-wrong-with-2015-same-sex-marriage-ruling/ar-AAZHHrg

Feeling bicurious Ted?
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Ted Cruz still obsessing over gay marriage (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 OP
Next GOP whine... viva la Jul 2022 #1
So Ted, if states "have always had the right to determine marriage" Docreed2003 Jul 2022 #2
Well EnergizedLib Jul 2022 #3
I think Ted is a signal beacon. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #4
"Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states" gratuitous Jul 2022 #5

viva la

(3,344 posts)
1. Next GOP whine...
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jul 2022

"For 100 years, the rights to vote, shop, go to public school, serve on a jury, work freely, drink from a water fountain, eat in a restaurant, take public transit, stay in hotels, get a mortgage, marry your lover, pee in a public restroom, move into a neighborhood... were left up to states! And for 300 years before that, the right to be not enslaved was left up to the states! You got a problem with that????"

Docreed2003

(16,883 posts)
2. So Ted, if states "have always had the right to determine marriage"
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jul 2022

Doe that mean you support overturning Loving as well? I mean, "states rights" and all.

The states cannot and should not be the ultimate arbiter of what this country is and what this country accepts. If they were, we'd still be living in open segregation and Jim Crow. I'm so tired of this "states rights" nonsense. We tried that approach once under the "Articles of Confederation" it was a terrible idea and it failed miserably.

EnergizedLib

(1,901 posts)
3. Well
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jul 2022

"Obergefell, like Roe v. Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation’s history. Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states. We saw states before Obergefell, some states were moving to allow gay marriage, other states were moving to allow civil partnerships. There were different standards that the states were adopting."

Does he realize for much of the first century of America’s history the 14th Amendment did not exist?

Does he know that before Brown v. Board and the Civi Rights Act that segregation and Jim Crow were enacted by states?

Also, would somebody mind telling me what good honoring and following history is if it’s the wrong side of history?

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. I think Ted is a signal beacon.
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 02:14 PM
Jul 2022

He is directing the attack. Women, transgender, immigrants, now married gay folks. Tucker Carlson is another signal beacon. He tells folks which groups to attack.

They seem to be having trouble getting their signals to work. They are all over the place this summer.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. "Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states"
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jul 2022

Really, Ted? So for most of our nation's history, if you were married in, say, Mississippi, you weren't married in Ohio? Because that's some Grade A bullshit right there.

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