I'd like to see Kamala Harris being groomed by Joe Biden to be the next president.

[Towlie]

It's just an idea I came up with from watching submarine movies and it may be totally naive, but it seems to me that if our vice president took on a role similar to a naval executive officer, subordinate to Joe Biden ( "the captain" ) but in command of the ship in the eyes of the crew, then she'd be more likely to be elected president, whether in 2024 or 2028.

Dumb idea?

Edit: To groom means to "prepare or train (someone) for a particular purpose or activity."

[FSogol]

1. Groomed? C'mon, word choice, people!

I do agree with the sentiments.

[Xavier Breath]

2. Clicked in to say just this.

[leftieNanner]

4. My thoughts exactly. nt

[Ocelot II]

3. Isn't that what being the VP sort of is? And maybe "grooming" isn't the best choice of words.

[Srkdqltr]

5. You don't think that is going on?

[betsuni]

58. +1

[brooklynite]

6. Question 1: why does Biden get to pick his successor?

Question 2: what do you imagine “executive officer” would mean in a White House with a Chief of Staff and other administrative officers?

[Mr.Bill]

18. He did pick his successor

when he chose Kamala Harris to be the VP. Anyone running for president knows the VP has to be qualified to be president, otherwise he's just playing politics.

[brooklynite]

19. No evidence he intended Harris to be his successor when his term ends.

[Mr.Bill]

25. That's not the point.

Any president's term can end on any day. You don't pick someone to be VP unless you think they could be president tomorrow.

[brooklynite]

26. Nobody disputes that Biden thinks Harris is prepared to serve as President if called upon...

...the OP is suggesting Harris should be Biden's choice as the next Democratic nominee.

[Mr.Bill]

33. And since Biden has declared he is running for a second term,

then that conversation can come in2028. If he talked about it in any other context the optics would be that he is not sure if he is running for a second term. Did we have these conversations halfway into Bill Clinton or Obama's first term?

[BradAllison]

48. Are you giving us some sort of insight, Mr Insider?

I mean clearly you don't care for her, but please proceed.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Post-Biden it will be no one's turn

[Mad_Machine76]

8. How do you know

she isn't? Most VPs usually are.

[brooklynite]

10. I'm not aware of any VP who has been "in charge" under the President....

...the Chief of Staff is.

Aside from the Constitutional requirement to serve as President of the Senate, the VP is almost always given responsibility for a specific POLICY issue.

[Mad_Machine76]

11. I was referring more

to VPs typically being groomed to step up to the Presidency once their President's terms are finished (i.e. George HW Bush, Al Gore)

[OnDoutside]

9. I'll come straight out and say it, Kamala should be doing the heavy

lifting herself, not waiting for Joe to do the work for her. She's in a fabulous position to move ahead of potential rivals if Joe doesn't run, but I don't see her doing enough. She may well be overtaken, currently, by Newsom.

[Aristus]

14. I think it's an issue of optics.

If Kamala Harris does anything over and above her Constitutional duties as VP, people may start to say (more than they already are, anyway) that President Biden isn't up to the job, and is having people cover for him.

[Mr.Bill]

28. That's a very good point.

But I also think the press is acting as if she doesn't exist.

[mopinko]

24. she'll be in the same box obama was- cant be angry.

gotta be a white guy to call people out like that w/o attracting a lightening strike.

[bluedigger]

12. I assumed she was ready for the job when I voted for them.

There's really little point to the position, other than to break ties in the Senate, and succeed to the Presidency, should need arise. Garnering support to run for a future term is all on her.

[brooklynite]

13. I didn't support Harris in the 2020 Primary...I won't automatically support her in 2024 or 2028...

She (and other Democratic candidates) will have to prove their electability and policy goals.

[beaglelover]

22. Agreed. And she dropped out of the 2020 primaries due to lack of support.

[Raine]

32. Yup even before the first primary vote was cast. nt

[Raine]

29. Totally agree nt

[SMC22307]

36. Agree. (n/t)

[pinkstarburst]

43. Same

If Biden does not run in 2024 and she is ultimately the nominee, then of course I am voting for her, but she was not my first or second choice in 2020 and I would like to see what everyone from the 2024 field of candidates has to offer if/when the time comes.

[JI7]

15. He picked her for VP which means she becomes President

if anything happens to him . She doesn't need to be "groomed" for it.

[Chainfire]

16. I think that the Democrats could field a better candidate.

Being Vice President, even an outstanding Vice President, does not mean that you could be a great President. I think that there are some people in our party that have the ability to be a great President. Of course the first step of becoming a great president it the ability to be elected.

Small stones, please, I am old and tender.

[Raine]

31. I agree totally, no stones from me. nt

[MerryBlooms]

37. Who's your first choice?

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. As qualified as she is, I think there are better candidates

And if Biden’s numbers continue to tank, she may get tarred with the same brush.

[MerryBlooms]

38. Who's on your short list?

[Fiendish Thingy]

53. Well...

In my dreams, Warren, or perhaps Sanders, but sadly, I think their time has passed, and for better or worse, the Democratic voters will likely lean towards a younger candidate.

I don’t have any firm names for 2024 yet, but there are many I find interesting, including:

Gov. Whitmer
Gov. Roy Cooper of NC
Sen. Gillibrand
Gov. Inslee

I think Butteigeig would make an excellent candidate, as would Klobuchar, but they are too moderate for my tastes.(although they are on the record being open to court expansion, and modifying the filibuster, to requirements for my support in the primary)

Beyond 2024, I am excited about a number of possible candidates who will have a bit more experience by then:

Soon-to-be-Sen. Fetterman,
Sen. Warnock.

And, as VP for either of them…AOC

[MerryBlooms]

59. I believe out of your list, the person could fire up our base

Is Fetterman. I love all the folks you listed, but don't believe any of them are more electable than Harris. The down side is, I don't believe Fetterman would run if he wins his current raceI don't see a deep Dem bench. Biden is definitely our best choice, and All messaging needs to support him! If something changes that course down the road, we're in trouble.

[Irish_Dem]

20. I assume that is why he picked her as his VP.

To become the next POTUS.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

21. Lemme guess ... Crimson Tide?

I love that movie. Seen it like 5 times.

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Same Here

At least 5 times.
I also thought of Riker in ST:NG.
Another sub movie that's big fun is Down Periscope.
If you haven't seen it, you should check it out. Funny movie.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

50. Imagine that, you and me agreeing on entertainment options ... weird ...

[ProfessorGAC]

51. It's Happened Before

A few hundred times!

[Hugh_Lebowski]

52. Indeed Professor

[thatdemguy]

23. Why not Bernie? or Warren?

Both did a lot better in the primaries than she did. Which to me means a lot more liked than Harris at a national level.

[Demsrule86]

62. Bernie is older than Biden and likely won't be running in 28

[867-5309.]

27. He must have thought she was ready when he chose her

Shouldn't need "grooming".

[ancianita]

30. I love her, and she's learning the president's job for sure, and ready to take over in a heartbeat,

but I'd also like to see the governor of the 6th largest GDP on the planet be the next U.S. president.

We're lucky to have them both. Whoever we run, however, we'd still need to GOTFV for a majority of both houses, so they don't have to struggle with a christo-fascist opposition like Obama and Biden had to.

Newsom comes up with manufacturing solutions, trades internationally, can create budget surpluses by taxing the rich.
Even though Harris was AG of that same huge state/economy, Newsom seems, at least publicly, to have more prosecutorial heft, taking issues to the self-proclaimed enemy like a political warrior.

[SheilaAnn]

34. Please, NO! n/t

[MerryBlooms]

39. Do you have someone in mind?

[SheilaAnn]

40. We have a good and deep bench, so many others would be winnable. She is not well liked and would

surely lose. I like her well enough where she is right now but that's pretty much my limit.

[MerryBlooms]

49. Who is on that deep bench list?

[MerryBlooms]

60. There is no deep bench, as your list provides.

[Firestorm49]

35. I'd prefer Schumer or Raskin but if she would be

the nominee, I’d vote for her.

[MerryBlooms]

41. I have great respect for both, but I don't feel either are

Charismatic enough to fire up our base.

[Polybius]

66. If it's 2028, Schumer turns 78 that November

We're not doing this back to back.

[BannonsLiver]

42. Yes. Yes it is.

[alphafemale]

44. No one DESERVES to be President

Fer fuqs sakes.

[uponit7771]

56. The most qualified black women in US history for prez passed by means a lost voting block for ...

... a generation.

I know some people don't want to see that as being true but I've seen this scenario in real life and its WONT go down positively.

[Demsrule86]

63. The presidency has to be won...so we need candidate who are able to win...I don't see Harris or

others for that matter able to win the rustbelt...and with them, we lose.

[Brainfodder]

45. Being V.P. for me is just that?

However,

If they are a real stinker of a human, a fly might land on them, on camera, and hang out a while, signaling they suck?

If you look constipated all the time, politics might not be for you?

If you call your wife, mother and seek her approval constantly, politics might not be for you?

If members of your own party are filmed chanting HANG (insert your name here), it might not be a good idea to step into that car?

So in summary, a V.P. has things to consider!?! Or is it considerate of things?

[Justice]

47. Gross to use term that is used in horrific context in current media.

There are so many OTHER words one could use -

mentor
encourage
counsel
advise

[egduj]

54. Does she need grooming?

You don't think she's already prepared to captain the ship?

[uponit7771]

55. LOL, yeah if first black VP is **NOT** in line to be next prez means lost dems for 1 generation. But

... to some that's okay because they "like" someone else better isn't going to fly well.

We'll see but my experience in this is if she wants the job its hers and if another person is chosen over her a whole voting block is gone for a while.

[alphafemale]

57. wrong.

triple nope

[Srkdqltr]

61. Not one of you cutting down the very worthy VP if the VP was a man. She is not good enough???

You use movies as examples? Come down to reality and stop watching movies and get into reality.

[Rob H.]

64. Her army of toxic fans on Twitter could prove to be a problem nt

[Polybius]

65. No thanks

The next President, whether in 2024 or 2028, should go to whoever has the most support. Judging by 2020's primaries, it won't be her.

[Darwins_Retriever]

67. She was put in charge of the border and immigration

What has she done. I think she has been to the border once.