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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocrats' Dilemma on Manchin
Bash Him, or Bash Big Oil Instead?With his climate agenda in ruins, President Biden faces a stark political choice, liberal pundits say.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/20/us/politics/democrats-biden-manchin-climate.html
https://archive.ph/FXU7H
Democrats looking to salvage some kind of victory from the smoking ruins of their climate policy have two basic options, political strategists say: slam Senator Joe Manchin, or take the wood to Big Oil. So far, President Biden, a creature of the Senate who prides himself on his bipartisan instincts, has been reluctant to do either. Enter Manchin, the centrist West Virginia Democrat who toyed with embracing Bidens legislative agenda on climate, only to torpedo it after months of dithering on his end and, frankly, wishful thinking from the White House and its allies.
On Friday, Manchin finally told congressional Democrats he could not support roughly $300 billion in tax incentives for clean energy like solar and wind power, ideas that had remained in discussion after the Build Back Better talks collapsed in December. Inflation is absolutely killing many, many people, Manchin said on a West Virginia radio show. Cant we wait to make sure that we do nothing to add to that?
Manchins latest dagger has left Democrats scrambling to coalesce around a next-best option that includes allowing Medicare to negotiate prices for prescription drugs and some technical fixes to the Affordable Care Act. The president no longer seems willing to wait on Manchin to come around. On Wednesday, the Biden administration rolled out its latest series of executive actions on climate, including $2.3 billion in funding for states to build cooling centers and fresh support for offshore wind farms. But it would take a monumental effort by Congress to more effectively address a threat that scientists warn is accelerating.
In the shorter term, the danger to Bidens presidency is an existential one. Theres widespread anxiety on the left that young Democrats in particular will be discouraged by Manchins apostasy and by party leaders inability to take major action, and might stay home in droves in November. That was likely to happen anyway, to some extent, based on who traditionally votes in midterm elections. As the Democratic data firm Catalist concluded in a postelection analysis, thousands of young voters sat on their hands last fall during the governors race in Virginia. But given just how micrometer-thin the margins are likely to be in some of this years big Senate races, even minor differences in youth turnout matter.
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Democrats' Dilemma on Manchin (Original Post)
Celerity
Jul 2022
OP
No, we have very old Senators...Sanders for example...Leahy also. What if one became
Demsrule86
Jul 2022
#5
elleng
(131,174 posts)1. No dilemma, we need his 'vote,'
and NOT oil.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)2. Wait until we get at least 52 Dem Senators, then let him go.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)5. No, we have very old Senators...Sanders for example...Leahy also. What if one became
incapacitated or God forbid died...you always keep those who increase your majority. Manchin has voted for every f'ing judge...
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)6. Ok, keep him, but ignore him. Lol.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)7. That is what we do!
Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)4. Make Manchin irrelevant in November.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)8. These Senate seats are flippable: PA, WISC, OH,NC,FL, IOWA.
I feel most confident in Pennsylvania and least confident in Iowa.
Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)9. I am feeling better for OH.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)10. Tim Ryan is so much smarter than JD Vance.