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BootinUp

(47,179 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 02:31 PM Jul 2022

Unconfirmed HIMARS strike (Update)

Last edited Sat Jul 23, 2022, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Possibly a major hit with HIMARS today. 👇

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Ukrainian Army made a high-precision hit with HIMARS on a court building in occupied Lysychansk where about 50 high-profile Russian military were at that moment.

This was confirmed by intelligence and head of Luhansk Military Administration.




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Unconfirmed HIMARS strike (Update) (Original Post) BootinUp Jul 2022 OP
I wonder if more RU generals were hit. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #1
I am wondering the same thing LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #15
"High profile" military usually means Generals, maybe full Colonels? Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #29
Do they have any left? SergeStorms Jul 2022 #37
I would think that Putin is doing field promotions all the time now. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #38
I don't think Putin... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #39
I could argue the opposite. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #40
I'm watching YouTube about intercepted Russian comms Kaleva Jul 2022 #2
Hey soldier, it is their country. They should know exactly where to hit and when. LiberalArkie Jul 2022 #3
Do these maps show ammo dumps, troop positions and headquarters? Kaleva Jul 2022 #14
yes. uncle ray Jul 2022 #16
Really? How do they know that? Kaleva Jul 2022 #17
It's known as "intelligence" AverageOldGuy Jul 2022 #18
The Ukrainians make use of GPS which enhanced their accuracy Kaleva Jul 2022 #41
it's a proxy war being fed top intelligence from many intelligence agencies. uncle ray Jul 2022 #22
Shouldn't call this a "proxy war". Russia STARTED this war. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #24
I agree. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #36
u can hear the comms on a simple walki talki tuned to 220 mc and a shortwave set from 5 m to 7 AllaN01Bear Jul 2022 #11
If it was the one I saw, it was also intercepted phone calls Warpy Jul 2022 #19
they signed up for killing raping and stealing Crazyleftie Jul 2022 #21
If you listen to them, they signed up to protect Russia Warpy Jul 2022 #23
Exactly right, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #27
This war has shown the superiority of Western war strategy. RUS is stuck in 1918 oldsoftie Jul 2022 #28
Yep, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #31
Thanks You 2 ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #32
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #34
And have BEEN taught that for decades. But RUS never changed! oldsoftie Jul 2022 #44
friend of mine can hear the chatter on a simple 220 mc walki talki AllaN01Bear Jul 2022 #26
Good. roamer65 Jul 2022 #4
Ukraine commentator Denys has shown the Antonovsky bridge with HIMARS hits on it mitch96 Jul 2022 #5
Yes, I have seen photos. I thought the BootinUp Jul 2022 #6
I think Denys said they had to limit the tonnage allowed to cross.. mitch96 Jul 2022 #7
This...the structure can still be used but not for heavy resupply from Crimea which is good! PortTack Jul 2022 #9
Love that guy. Ligyron Jul 2022 #20
Odd; it looks like shells just went thru the bridge with no explosions. Just holes. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #45
Also unconfirmed ...... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #8
Question NQAS Jul 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jul 2022 #12
I'd prefer to see Chechyns attack RUS positions in Chechnya. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #30
They would risk losing American weaponry... reACTIONary Jul 2022 #33
Man, I really hope it was a strike on Mara-Dildo with TFG inside! Darn..... machoneman Jul 2022 #13
Well, I hope it is blue-wave Jul 2022 #25
Intercepted Russian calls say the only warning is a low whispering shush just before the explosions. denbot Jul 2022 #35
Ukraine's military destroys Russian military supply point, ammunition depot in southern Ukraine. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #42
Massive. Slava Ukraine! BootinUp Jul 2022 #43

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
37. Do they have any left?
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:40 PM
Jul 2022

Ukraine has been knocking them down as soon as the Ruskies can set them up.

It's getting so anyone who's been in the Russian Army more than two months is promoted to General now. It's not a position any young man in a Russian uniform aspires to, I'll tell you that.

GO GET'EM UKRAINE!

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
38. I would think that Putin is doing field promotions all the time now.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:42 PM
Jul 2022

The death rate is so high and so are desertions.
Desertions are for good reasons.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
39. I don't think Putin...
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jul 2022

or this war have much longer to go. I think Putin's days on this earth are a lot fewer than they'd like us to believe. I also think once Putin is gone, this war is over as well.

Whoever Putin has picked as his successor may have to promise a continuation of the war to him now, but once he's dirt-deep I can't see any rational person carrying this on. Russia is a pariah on the world stage, and to allow the country to progress into the 20th century - let alone the 21st - this aggression has to stop. Anyone without a head full of cancer can recognize that.

I'm counting down the days until 'Swan Lake' is in a continuous loop on Russian State Television. 😊

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
40. I could argue the opposite.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jul 2022

Putin plans to wear down Ukraine until the people are totally demoralized and beg Zelensky to surrender. Putin has kidnapped about 2 million Ukrainians and moved them to camps in Russia. Putin wants to replace the population in Ukraine with Russians.

Putin could also take Kiev by gradually planting his puppets until they get rid of Zelensky and take over. Zelensky has been on to this plot and firing turn coat officials, but Putin is good at installing his puppets, look how well he has done in the US.

Putin plans to use his KGB skills to continue to destabilize the west, planting his puppets in France, etc. Putin has already been quite successful in destabilizing the west and the giving rise to radical candidates who support him.

Reports I have read said Putin may have three years to live. He is the richest man in the world and has world class oncologists on call 24/7.

This is really not about Ukraine at all. Putin and Xi of China wish to change the world order.
They wish to be sole superpowers, with Putin ruling the West, Xi the East.

If they cannot get regional control first, they cannot move on.
China will get Taiwan. Russia will get Ukraine. They are stepping stones to higher goals.

I am certain there are top Russian officials who totally buy into this world view.
And they probably don't want to get on the bad side of China and stop the deal Putin has made with China.

China takes the long view and they will most probably become a world superpower and very soon. And they will help Russia as well.

Kaleva

(36,332 posts)
2. I'm watching YouTube about intercepted Russian comms
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jul 2022

Mostly soldiers talking to wives, GFs, or parents. They are not happy campers. One particularly interesting one was a soldier talking about how accurate the Ukrainian strikes are.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
3. Hey soldier, it is their country. They should know exactly where to hit and when.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 02:59 PM
Jul 2022

Hint, the UA has maps and blueprints to everything. DUH

AverageOldGuy

(1,542 posts)
18. It's known as "intelligence"
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jul 2022

snooping and pooping

interrogating prisoners

interviewing people who have traveled in the area

information provided from US spy satellites

intercepted Russian communications

backplots from radar that intercepts incoming Russian artillery and missile strikes

Kaleva

(36,332 posts)
41. The Ukrainians make use of GPS which enhanced their accuracy
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 08:35 PM
Jul 2022

while the Russians don't have that. That's what the Russian whose phone call was intercepted was referring to. How accurate the Ukrainian strikes were.

uncle ray

(3,157 posts)
22. it's a proxy war being fed top intelligence from many intelligence agencies.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jul 2022

there are American ex-military and intelligence, now civilian boots on the ground. the Ukrainian Army has been trained by the CIA. they have information from many private entities, tech and otherwise. there are still Ukrainian civilians in these areas reporting troop movements. i expect the courthouse security cameras etc. can be monitored remotely.

they have the intell, the challenge is being able to act on it.

oldsoftie

(12,587 posts)
24. Shouldn't call this a "proxy war". Russia STARTED this war.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:02 PM
Jul 2022

The West is a helping a fledgling free country defend itself from a much larger & more powerful belligerent neighbor.
"proxy war" term is being used by those against helping UKR

Sky Jewels

(7,133 posts)
36. I agree.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jul 2022

I consider myself a very progressive and proudly "far left" person, but the term "proxy war" is being used by pro-Russia people who are so far left (Susan Sarandon types) that they are intersecting with the pro-Russia far right (Tucker Carlson types).

AllaN01Bear

(18,359 posts)
11. u can hear the comms on a simple walki talki tuned to 220 mc and a shortwave set from 5 m to 7
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jul 2022

m and no encryption, in the clear even,

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
19. If it was the one I saw, it was also intercepted phone calls
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jul 2022

which means the Russian GIs are getting much better at hiding their phones from the brass hats.

It's hard not to feel a little sorry for these poor bastards. You know this is not what they signed up for, if they signed up, at all. The next development will be of a code at home that allows families to talk to each other about, say, penguins, sharing their information.

The Kremlin is flirting with another revolution. It won't happen soon, but it will happen if they don't manage to find a way out of Ukraine.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
23. If you listen to them, they signed up to protect Russia
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:01 PM
Jul 2022

to wear their dress uniforms in parades, and to be part of a well respected military that would repel anybody dumb enough to invade Russia. Yay team.

They certainly didn't sign up to dig trenches in the Red Forest or get blown to bits when their line of tanks stalled when they ran out of gas.

One thing this war has made glaringly obvious is their flawed command structure, something that has allowed to sociopaths to run amok.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
27. Exactly right,
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jul 2022

the average enlisted soldier, along with the NCO's and mid level Officers didn't want to go to Ukraine, they thought they were in the military to defend Mother Russia, not rape and pillage another country.

oldsoftie

(12,587 posts)
28. This war has shown the superiority of Western war strategy. RUS is stuck in 1918
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:06 PM
Jul 2022

Russian troops have to constantly be told what to do. When you kill those who are tasked with telling them what to do, the regular troops have no idea what to do. Western military philosophy generally informs troops to the man on objectives. Losing an O4, for example, wouldnt stop a mission. It likely would with a RUS mission.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
31. Yep,
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jul 2022

that's why the US military, along with NATO, are taught to go for the Russian command and control vehicles, once they're taken out, the Russian offensive stalls due to lack of leadership, whereas western militaries are much more flexible leadership wise in the field.

oldsoftie

(12,587 posts)
44. And have BEEN taught that for decades. But RUS never changed!
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:41 AM
Jul 2022

I'd bet they knew their policies were flawed, but they'd never take the chance on actually trusting their troops.
I would think the same applies to China as well. Definitely NK.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
5. Ukraine commentator Denys has shown the Antonovsky bridge with HIMARS hits on it
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 03:22 PM
Jul 2022

About six holes all in a tight group. Very accurate but not enough to take it down. They need a bigger hammer..
The pic's of the bridge are at or around 1 min in. m


mitch96

(13,924 posts)
7. I think Denys said they had to limit the tonnage allowed to cross..
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 03:37 PM
Jul 2022

I guess they don't want to drop a few T72's in the drink..
m

PortTack

(32,789 posts)
9. This...the structure can still be used but not for heavy resupply from Crimea which is good!
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jul 2022

When they retake Kherson, they can repair the bridge and use it to further push the russians out.

Love Denys..he gives very accurate updates

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
20. Love that guy.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 04:44 PM
Jul 2022

Even gave him a few bucks out of the meager SS I live on just like I do with the D party whenever I can.

oldsoftie

(12,587 posts)
45. Odd; it looks like shells just went thru the bridge with no explosions. Just holes.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jul 2022

I wonder if thats a legit picture of that bridge. HOPE it is; any damage will scare the invaders.

Lovie777

(12,321 posts)
8. Also unconfirmed ......
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 03:39 PM
Jul 2022

UA is circling the invaders near or in Kherson where invaders are trying to now flee, run like Hawley, get out of Dodge pronto. Russia is asking for a safe route for them to leave, but UA ain't having it and told them they must surrender and give up all their weaponry. Meanwhile asswipe Russia again has not honored the very recent signed agreement with Turkey and Ukraine for safe passage of grain. Russia bomb a grain terminal in Odessa.

Response to NQAS (Reply #10)

oldsoftie

(12,587 posts)
30. I'd prefer to see Chechyns attack RUS positions in Chechnya.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jul 2022

The Russian forces there are depleted because of troops being sent to UKR. Now is the time to try to retake what ws lost 20+ years ago. Make them pay to stay. Russia cannot fight a two front war.
Georgia can have a whack at it as well. Why not.

reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)
33. They would risk losing American weaponry...
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:15 PM
Jul 2022

... That would be considered offensive escalation, rather than defensive. The US is already holding back weaponry that could reach into Russia, even though UA said they would not do that.

blue-wave

(4,362 posts)
25. Well, I hope it is
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jul 2022

confirmed soon and many high ranking orcs are in hell. Slava Ukraini!! Heroyam Slava!! Slava Na Viki!!

denbot

(9,901 posts)
35. Intercepted Russian calls say the only warning is a low whispering shush just before the explosions.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jul 2022

Several more flag officers possibly KIA.

Slava Ukraini

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