$840 billion a yr on military defense-But We Can't Afford more than $2.3 billion for climate crisis?

[kpete]

Robert Reich
So let me get this straight: we can afford to spend $840 billion a year on military defense, but we can’t afford more than $2.3 billion to defend ourselves against the climate crisis? What does this say about our priorities?

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=fKMq34lonseElTTfaPFR7w

[walkingman]

1. It says the fossil fuel industry control Congress 🥵

[Demsrule86]

9. Nothing can happen without winning more Senators and holding the House...and if we lose the

the mid-term, climate is dead once more. Why can't he explain how important it is to elect Democrats instead of bashing them.

[betsuni]

20. +1

[Celerity]

2. the Manchin Effect is in the ascendency, much to the nation and the planet's great peril

[LastDemocratInSC]

3. The climate crisis, if not addressed well, will cause a big increase

in the military budget. When crop failures begin in various countries the populations of those countries will want to migrate to other areas. It's happened many times in the past. That will create political instability which could affect countries that are more resilient to climate change. It will be an "any port in a storm" situation.

Military budgets, including our own, will increase as a result. Our choice is pay to mitigate the man made causes of climate change now or pay to provide military protection of our land in the future.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. Or keep C-17s from having engine trouble..

All the times we have tried flying Space Available where C-17s have been involved, there has been engine trouble.

In October of 2017, we took a hop from Travis AFB to Hawaii via Anchorage, Alaska as part of the journey to get to Australia. The 20 hour layover was to be 20 hours that turned into 4 days. Engine trouble. We finally get to Hawaii. A week spent in Hawaii, though Hickham and the Hale Koa were booked, we found lodging at a Veteran's Park off the Nimitz before one gets to the Sand Island exit for $25 a night. All set at Hickham to board a C-17 coming in from Travis AFB on its way to pick up equipment to then fly to Guam. All processed and passed Security, Passports checked and visa paid, we were told after waiting almost an hour that the flight was cancelled. Engine trouble. After 3 weeks trying to get to Australia, we found a hop going to Offut AFB near Omaha. We got that instead.

In October of 2018, we did get to Australia via a 21 day cruise from Seattle on Royal Caribbean to Sydney. After a month in Australia, we were ready to board yet another C-17 from the Royal Australian AFB in Richmond when the crew announced that there would be no flights out until the following Tuesday. Engine trouble once again. We thought perhaps being that it was close to Thanksgiving in the US, flight crews wanted a few days in Australia before heading up to Guam. So we flew Commercial home. It was indeed Thanksgiving Day when we arrived back in the US.

With things that transpired due to COVID and now the Ukraine War, Space Available flights are not happening much, if at all. With my husband's health issues, there may not be travel overseas once again for us.

[eppur_se_muova]

5. Start a War On Climate Change ?

Look at the great precedents -- the War on Drugs, the War on Terrorism, er, never mind.

[TheBeam19]

6. And haven't won a war since the 1940s.

[EX500rider]

25. Not really

Didn't really lose any & surrender either.

In the wars of N Korea, Panama, Grenada and Iraq 1/2 we certainly won, in the counter insurgencies of Vietnam & Afghanistan we helped the local govt stay in power till we got tried of helping and pulled out, then the local govt fell. Afghan right away, Vietnam 2 years after we left, hard to see how we lost, we weren't even there. US active military support it not a never ending thing, promised to the end of time.

[TheBeam19]

28. I'm aware of all of the denialist arguments.

No offense, but they’re a boring waste of time at this point.

[EX500rider]

29. It's a matter of knowing the goal of the war. If accomplished then we "won" as much as we wanted to.

Korea the goal was to kick N Korea back across the border, done.
Iraq 1 the goal was to kick Saddam out of Kuwait, done.
Iraq 2 the goal was to remove Saddam, done.

How were any of those loses exactly?

[leftstreet]

7. DURec

[Demsrule86]

8. Dear Robert can you count votes?

And you are not helpful...seriously, you should retire. That way you won't be so useful for Republicans. You know perfectly well that we need more Senators so I have to assume you have your own reasons for saying crap like this.

[Cha]

24. No, he just blares out things like

he's "76 and thinks President Biden is too old to run again".. that's coming from Reich.. Not me!

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[Demsrule86]

26. Right and yet he supports Sanders who is older than Biden and has a heart attack.

[Cha]

35. Yeah, he's so obvious it's Sickening.

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[sheshe2]

39. Has Robert called for banning F35's in VT?

He is very very concerned about the defense budget.

Lockheed agrees to $30,000 per flight hour cost for F-35A by FY2023

snip

The F-35 has been savaged by critics who say its high-operating costs – $33,600 per flight hour in FY2020 – make buying and sustaining a fleet of the stealth aircraft unaffordable. The jet has also been plagued with a litany of manufacturing and maintenance problems that made it at times unable to complete missions.



https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/lockheed-agrees-to-30000-per-flight-hour-cost-for-f-35a-by-fy2023/145448.article

[betsuni]

58. I remember that -- Bernie Sanders supported it because he said it brought jobs to Vermont.

So jobs ARE important.

[sheshe2]

59. Yep.

Jobs in VT are more important than a silly military budget or peoples hearing.


Burlington airport monitoring sound levels following jet-noise complaints


The complaints of Burlington area residents have been heard, even over the sound of the Vermont National Guard’s F-35 fighter jets.

Burlington International Airport has installed a sound monitoring system that tracks aircraft noise in the hopes of addressing the series of complaints about noise levels and concerns over hearing damage that followed the 2019 arrival of the National Guard’s F-35 jets. However, it’s unlikely the monitoring system will result in any significant changes in airport or National Guard operations, representatives from both institutions said.

The noise monitoring system uses large microphones installed at strategic places to measure decibel levels.

https://vtdigger.org/2021/10/28/burlington-airport-monitoring-sound-levels-following-jet-noise-complaints/

[lapucelle]

10. The entire House Progressive Caucus voted for the semiconductor funding.

Meanwhile, Robert Reich is getting his talking points on twitter from an "entertainment entrepreneur"/blogger.



https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202231

[Celerity]

17. your link is for an entirely different bill (Bioeconomy Research and Development Act) not The CHIPS

Act of 2022.








https://www.aip.org/fyi/federal-science-bill-tracker/117th/bioeconomy-research-and-development-act

[lapucelle]

18. The bill had more than one title.

Short Titles as Passed House
- America COMPETES Act of 2022
- America Creating Opportunities for Manufacturing, Pre-Eminence in Technology & Economic Strength Act of 2022
- America COMPETES Act of 2022
- America Creating Opportunities for Manufacturing, Pre-Eminence in Technology & Economic Strength Act of 2022

snip=======================================================

Short Title(s) as Reported to House
- Bioeconomy Research and Development Act of 2021

Short Title(s) as Introduced
- Bioeconomy Research and Development Act of 2021

Official Title as Introduced
- To provide for a coordinated Federal research initiative to ensure continued United States leadership in engineering biology.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4521/titles

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For more information on the details of the bill, you can download a pdf info sheet released by the House:

www.speaker.gov/sites/speaker.house.gov/files/America%20COMPETES%20Act%20of%202022%20HR%204521.pdf

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For congress.gov information on HR 4521:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4521
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202231

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For more information on titles:

https://www.congress.gov/help/legislative-glossary

[JustAnotherGen]

22. Thank you for preventing

Misinformation

[Celerity]

46. there was no misinformation from my end, I was correct form the start

see

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216971004#post45

[lapucelle]

53. Actually, you're still wrong.

You assumed both that I was referring to the Senate CHIPS+ Act and that the House hadn't voted on semiconductor funding in any other bill that came up in the second session of the 117th Congress.

You were wrong on both counts.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16976822

[LetMyPeopleVote]

23. Thank you for posting this

[Celerity]

48. they were wrong and I was right, from the start

see

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216971004#post45

[sheshe2]

30. Well done, lapucelle.

Disinformation is not healthy especially in these critical times.

Thank you for correcting the record.

[Celerity]

47. no, they were wrong, and I was right, there was zero disinformation from my end

see

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216971004#post45

for definitive proof

[Celerity]

45. you're conflating things, the bill you posted the link to has nothing to do with chip manufacturing

funding as you claimed, in your original reply

here:




The funding bill is the CHIPS-Plus package

it has NOT passed The House yet

proof:

U.S. Senate advances chip funding bill to encourage local semiconductor manufacturing

https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/27/u-s-senate-advances-chip-funding-bill-to-encourage-local-semiconductor-manufacturing/

The U.S. Senate voted in favor of advancing the CHIPS bill through cloture, or bypassing the filibuster stage, on Tuesday to bolster local semiconductor manufacturing. The bipartisan bill, once it passes the formal vote, will pave the way for providing nearly $280 billion in various incentives for U.S-based chip making.

The bill, popularly known as the CHIPS-Plus package, has three major incentives for chipmakers: $52 billion of assistance in setting up fabs and manufacturing units, which also includes $2 billion for legacy chipmaking essential to the auto and defense industry; 25% in tax relief for investment in local semiconductor manufacturing at roughly $24 billion; and $200 billion grant for research in the area.

A version of this bill passed the Senate last year but was stalled in the House, and now it faces that final hurdle again before the August recess.

again, I was right with my original reply to you

[lapucelle]

52. I said that entire House Progressive Caucus voted for semiconductor funding,

and the entire House Progressive Caucus did vote for semiconductor funding. It was a provision of HR 4521.

You assumed both that I was referring to the Senate CHIPS+ Act and that the House hadn't voted on semiconductor funding in any other bill that came up in the second session of the 117th Congress.

And you were wrong on both counts.

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H.R. 4521, The America COMPETES Act of 2022

The America COMPETES Act of 2022 is a bold, comprehensive package to strengthen America’s competitiveness, including:

Creating the CHIPS for America Fund
Includes $52 billion for CHIPS for America Act which will incentivize private-sector investments and continued American leadership in semiconductor fabrication and will help address supply chain disruptions and ensure that more semiconductors are produced here at home.

snip===================================================================

DIVISION A: Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors (CHIPS) for America

Semiconductors are essential to our national security and our economic competitiveness – but over the past 30 years the United States’ share of global semiconductor manufacturing has significantly decreased, putting our national and economic security at risk.

The America COMPETES Act of 2022 appropriates $52 billion for the CHIPS for America Act – critical investments to support continued American technological leadership in semiconductor fabrication, address supply chain disruptions and ensure more semiconductors are produced here at home.

The America COMPETES Act of 2022 provides urgently needed funding to the R&D programs authorized in the CHIPS Act, including funding to stand up the National Semiconductor Technology Center, expand semiconductor manufacturing R&D under the Manufacturing USA Program, and establish an advanced packaging R&D program.

• This bill provides substantial financial assistance to incentivize investment in facilities and equipment for semiconductor fabrication, assembly, testing, advanced packaging, and research and development.

• The financial assistance may be used for the construction, expansion or modernization of semiconductor facilities, support workforce development, and pay the reasonable costs of operating a semiconductor facility.

• It invests $2 billion to support critical components in the production of many automobiles, consumer electronics and defense systems.

www.speaker.gov/sites/speaker.house.gov/files/America%20COMPETES%20Act%20of%202022%20HR%204521.pdf

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And by the way, I like the new, improved. enlarged screenshot of exactly what I said so much that I think I'll put it right here.


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[Celerity]

55. again, you are wrong, that link you posted was NOT for the Chips-Plus part (aka the semiconductor

funding aka The CHIPS for America Act portion of the America Compete Act)

You original link was to a February vote that had nothing to do with semiconductor funding.


your own reply just now shows me to be right as you reference the 52 billion CHIPS for America Act, which has NOT passed the House

here is what you posted

snapshot




You are conflating things again, exactly as I stated.

The overarching America Competes Act has many, many separate portions (again, as shown by another link you posted)

The CHIPS for America Act (which is a portion of the overarching America Competes Act) has NOT passed the House, it has never come to a vote as I just showed.


there are NOT 2 separate separate semiconductor funding bills, I have no idea why you are doubling down with this erroneous claim. The semiconductor part is (as you yourself JUST POSTED) is called The CHIPS for America Act


more proof from today


Senate passes Chips Act to subsidize semiconductor chip production

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-chips-act-subsidize-semiconductor-chip-production/

snip

you were wrong from the start with your original claim

here



I was correct

as I have definitively shown

[lapucelle]

63. HR 4521 appropriated $52B for semiconductor funding, at least according to Speaker Pelosi

and the text of the bill itself.

Anyone who wants to argue that voting to appropriate $52B to fund a federal semiconductor program is not really the same as voting in favor of $52B in federal funding for a semiconductor program is perfectly free to contact Speaker Pelosi.

https://www.speaker.gov/contact

I wish them luck.




Nota bene:

[Celerity]

66. Again, that portion, in its final form, of the overall Act is not passed yet in the House.

If it was already passed, the House would not be voting on it soon, which they are or it does not go to Biden's desk.

The Senate changed key parts of the CHIPS for America Act, the portion of the overarching America Competes Act that is in question (which is why Sanders was protesting, as it does not block firms from doing stock buybacks and/or executive compensation increases with the money allocated), thus it requires the House to now vote on the final form.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/27/u-s-senate-advances-chip-funding-bill-to-encourage-local-semiconductor-manufacturing/

The bill, popularly known as the CHIPS-Plus package, has three major incentives for chipmakers: $52 billion of assistance in setting up fabs and manufacturing units, which also includes $2 billion for legacy chipmaking essential to the auto and defense industry; 25% in tax relief for investment in local semiconductor manufacturing at roughly $24 billion; and $200 billion in grants for research in the area.

A version of this bill passed the Senate last year but was stalled in the House, and now it faces that final hurdle again before the August recess.

[lapucelle]

67. And...? The entire House Progressive Caucus STLL voted for semiconductor funding in HR 4521.

The point still stands.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16971214

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16971976

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If anyone expects people to address and defend flawed arguments (predicated on faulty assumptions) made by other folks seems pretty entitled.

If anyone wants to debate whether the House voted on a bill that hasn't yet come before it, it's probably best to find someone who actually said that.

And it might be useful if people in general were aware of the error in reasoning known as argumentum hominem paleae.

[lapucelle]

65. People are perfectly free to try to convince themselves

that voting in favor of appropriating $52B for a specific program or purpose really means something other than voting in favor of funding that program or purpose.

Would those people be "right"? No.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------


People are equally free to assert that HR 4521 is not really HR 4521 and that when the House Progressive Caucus voted in favor of appropriating $52B for semiconductor funding they weren't really voting for semiconductor funding.

Would those people be "right"? No.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------


They are also free to try to convince themselves that the statement,






really means that the House Progressive Caucus voted for a bill that didn't come before them yet.

But would they be "right"? No.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------

People are perfectly free to claim that there are code words and hidden meaning in clear, straightforward statements of fact in order to convince themselves that facts aren't really facts.

But would they be "right"? No.

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The point stands.

[lapucelle]

54. It's Speaker Pelosi making the claim that there is superconductor funding in HR 4521,

not I.

Pelosi Floor Speech on H.R. 4521, the America COMPETES Act of 2022

To be preeminent in technology, innovation, it is essential that America becomes self-sufficient in the manufacture of critical goods. COMPETES will do this and transport our nation into the future by, first, supercharging our investment in chips. Semiconductors are a key component in everything from defense systems to computers to cars to your personal phone, Madam Speaker. Cars, electric cars contain hundreds of chips – electric cars, thousands. Chips are the lifeblood of modern technology. But, over the past 30 years, America's global share of manufacturing semiconductors has been outpaced, leaving us dependent on those countries and vulnerable to their supply chain, which drive up costs at home and for Americans.

COMPETES directs $52 billion for the CHIPS for America Act. There is a CHIPS for America Act, and that's contained in this bill – which will address supply chain disruptions that push up costs for families, bring back chips production to America and ensure sure that U.S. leads the way on semiconductor fabrication. Specifically, Madam Speaker, the bill provides financial assistance to incentivize investment in facility and equipment for semiconductor fabrication assembly, testing, advanced packaging – testing, advanced packaging and research and development. This is very specific and very well thought out.

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/2222-1

[Celerity]

56. the House has NOT Voted on the CHIPS for America Act yet as I keep showing over and over

There are NOT 2 semiconductor funding bills, the CHIPS for America Act is simply a portion of the America Competes Act and has NOT been voted on yet by the House


all is (again) definitively shown here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16976952

[lapucelle]

64. People are responsible for the assumptions they make, including faulty assumptions

predicated on simple, clear, straightforward statement of fact.



You assumed both that I was referring to the Senate CHIPS+ Act and that the House hadn't voted on semiconductor funding in any other bill that came up in the second session of the 117th Congress.

You were wrong on both counts.

I am not responsible to explain other people's flawed reasoning.

[Celerity]

57. There never was a vote on FINAL passage in the House (meaning if passed it goes to Biden's desk for

signing into law) as the Senate version of the Chips for American Act is significantly different (and more controversial as there are far less safeguards that prevent stock buybacks, executive compensation, etc, coming from the funds, which is what Sanders was protesting about)

That is why it needs to go to House.

I have no idea if the House progressives will vote for it or not. We shall see,

[Emile]

61. Thanks Celerity for repeatedly explaining the truth. Disinformation

is not helpful.

[betsuni]

21. +1

[Celerity]

49. their claim is wrong, the Chip-Plus package (the semiconductor funding) has NOT passed the House yet

see

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216971004#post45

[betsuni]

60. ...

[sheshe2]

71. Lol!

[Ron Green]

11. No one in an American uniform has protected our freedom

within my lifetime. They’ve mostly made the world safe for despots and cheap oil.

[sheshe2]

32. Just wow.

Ron Green

11. No one in an American uniform has protected our freedom

within my lifetime. They’ve mostly made the world safe for despots and cheap oil.

I will be sure to tell my father that, unfortunately he is dead, not from the war but old age. He was stationed on a minesweeper outside pearl harbor waiting for orders to go in, it was bombed before the order came.

There are many veterans and families of vets on this board. Your comments for those that served and died are contemptible.

There will always be some bad apples, yet you say it is ALL AMERICANS IN UNIFORM.

You really should delete your post.

[NickB79]

33. Your father wore that the uniform 80 years ago then

That's well outside most of our lifetimes.

For the younger generation, the past 20 years DOES feel like it's been nothing but wars to protect oil interests in the Middle East. After all, that's what we accused George Bush Jr of doing when he invaded Iraq, is it not?

And that's not even a critique of the soldiers. It's a critique of the politicians who sent them into combat. They don't get to choose their battles.

[sheshe2]

36. Welp.

The comment is not a critique of Bush. He was calling out every American that wore our uniform, please read it again. It was the men and women that served and he never mentioned the politicians that got us into the wars. Not once.

Read It AGAIN.

Ron Green

No one in an American uniform has protected our freedom

within my lifetime. They’ve mostly made the world safe for despots and cheap oil.

PS, you want something more current?


The National Guard, who are AMERICANS, both men and women in uniform, were deployed late on January 6 and cleared the Capitol of insurrectionists so the Congress could proceed in certifying the 2020 election results and PROTECT OUR FREEDOM!!?!!!

[lapucelle]

41. Remember all those field hospitals the Army Corps of Engineers built during the dark, early

months of covid?

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/2154305/corps-of-engineers-takes-on-28-covid-19-bed-facilities/

[Ron Green]

68. I've thought about it, but I'm not going to delete my post

on your suggestion. The National Guard troops who finally showed up on Jan. 6 could be an exception, I suppose, but that’s really more of a policing function that should be accomplished by … whoops, the Capitol Police! So in this country we now have cops playing soldier and soldiers playing cop? What a backward situation.

Let’s not bring the Army Corps of Engineers into this examination. Arguably more long term environmental damage has been accomplished by them over the past century or more than by any other group.

I’m a disabled US Army veteran, and I’m almost 75 years old. I’ve also thought about these things, and I stand by my statement.

We all ought to put down the flag, and pick up the mirror.

[lapucelle]

40. New York Air, Army, and Navel Reserves engage in pop up missions at NYC airports, train stations,

and transportation hubs, and a National Guard task force conducts random patrols at the Indian Point (Nuclear) Energy Center.

[lapucelle]

42. Has anyone you know or love ever been the victim of a natural disaster?

https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Experience/Prepare

[sheshe2]

44. Army Corps Races To Repair Levees Excavated During Trump Admin

Last edited Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:48 PM - Edit history (1)

As hurricane season approaches, the Army Corps are racing to repair damaged levees at the southern border that were excavated during the Trump Administration’s construction on the border wall. NBC News’ Dasha Burns breaks down whether the repairs can be done before the first storm hits and how local officials are reacting.

[jalan48]

12. Until our owners figure out how to make climate change a cash cow for investors looking to

feed at the public trough the issue will go unaddressed.

[hunter]

16. They're doing quite well at that, promoting renewable energy schemes that benefit wealthy people...

... and prolong our dependence on fossil fuels.

We could be paying people to experiment with lifestyles having small environmental footprints. Instead we are trashing our deserts with solar crap, trashing our landscapes and seascapes with wind turbine crap, and trashing our environment to obtain the exotic materials electric cars require.

Consumerism got us into this mess, consumerism won't get us out of this mess. Buying an electric car or a giant battery bank for your home isn't going to save the world.

Hah, but can you imagine any politician saying, "Yes, we're going to put a moratorium on the manufacture of all new cars and rebuild our cities so most people don't need them. All you autoworkers will be building public transportation systems and small modular nuclear reactors. All you fossil fuel workers will be closing coal mines, sealing abandoned oil and gas wells, and dismantling fossil fuel power plants."

It is possible. We transformed entire industries in World War II so we could defeat Imperial Japan and the Nazis.

The threats of global warming are just as horrific.

[Calculating]

19. The only problem with your idea is that it goes against the free market and private property

Aka it's dead on arrival in a country like this.

[aocommunalpunch]

13. LMAO

It says that many will die, but that’s a sacrifice TPTB are willing to make. Le monde est foutu.

[Initech]

14. That's 100% political and 100% Rupert Murdoch calling the shots.

[llashram]

15. nope

cost too much for the raging mob that is the Republikkkan Party...

[Emile]

27. Insanity

[brooklynite]

31. If only Reich knew people in the Democratic Administration and Congress to discuss this with

[Nevilledog]

34. Manchin has agreed to include ***$369B*** for Energy Security & Climate Change.

Link to tweet

Tweet text:
Alexander McCoy
@AlexanderMcCoy4
·
Follow
According to a fact sheet, the deal Manchin has agreed to includes ***$369B*** for Energy Security & Climate Change.

Fact Sheet claims it will “lower energy costs, increase cleaner production, & reduce carbon emissions by roughly 40% by 2030.”
3:01 PM · Jul 27, 2022 from Manhattan, NY

[RANDYWILDMAN]

37. Brutal ! The military is socialism for defense contractors

Why do we need military contractors ? To build new items to fight with and and after we have all these great new items arrive, well we have to have someone to fight....rinse and repeat

Eisenhower tried to tell us this in 1961 and the leaders of this country don't listen.

The biggest war in the country, should be over the STATUS QUO !!!!

[lapucelle]

43. Reich should get the entertainment entrepreneur to tweet about the $150,000,000,000,000 F-35. N/T

[sheshe2]

70. +1

[Samrob]

38. I wish some Dem would be shrewd enough to link climate change into national defense. It is of cours

a matter of our national safety and defense against outside forces by way of climate impact on farming, infrastructure, weapons systems, safety of our forces stationed around the country and abroad, immigration etc. Linking is still an important factor in messaging to me.

[Celerity]

50. the DoD has linked the two for ages

https://www.defense.gov/spotlights/tackling-the-climate-crisis/

[hatrack]

62. They don't have any choice - when the world's largest naval base is going underwater, you act . . .

.

[867-5309.]

69. $369 billion

in the energy and health care bill Manchin just agreed to.