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Marjorie Taylor Greene Asks Why Kids Are Getting Monkeypox if It's an STD
Monkeypox is rapidly spreading throughout the globe. Since May, there have been 16,836 recorded cases across 74 countries, as of July 22, according to the CDC. The World Health Organization has declared the outbreak a global health emergency,
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https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-asks-why-kids-getting-monkeypox-std-1727634
durablend
(7,465 posts)Prove me wrong.
She needs some serious disinfecting.
MacKasey
(994 posts)Emile
(22,972 posts)Beachnutt
(7,345 posts)that Madison Cawthorn attended..
Mike Nelson
(9,970 posts)... Wow! She's smarter than I expected... thought she would wonder why human are getting it, since it's called Monkeypox. I guess Marjorie was a science major!
haele
(12,682 posts)Just because some jerkwad freak decided to irresponsibly infect a bunch of people in a sex club/party/whatever doesn't mean he was patient 0.
Monkey Pox can be caught handling infected exotic animals (Sugar Gliders, Prairie Dogs, as well as Capuchin Monkeys and Lemurs), so it could just as easily be passed by kids or parents who attended a circus or zoo petting area where there was an infected animal.
The GQP want Monkey Pox to be considered an STD; that way they can blame liberals for "grooming" when kids start bringing it to school in the fall.
Haele
LeftInTX
(25,587 posts)Chickenpox (herpes) can be spread via watery nasal discharge which precedes the rash.
Smallpox is only contagious via lesions. However smallpox lesions are all over the body and in the mouth, and pus from oral blisters goes airborne. Hence smallpox is more contagious than cowpox because the cowpox lesions aren't known to be in the mouth generally only on the hands. (Well I guess if cowpox lesions get in the mouth, the pustules could also become airborne) I think the old milkmaids just didn't "get around" too much!
Sympthsical
(9,124 posts)Monkeypox is spread by close contact with someone who has it. The CDC noted that the primary spread in the U.S. has been men who have sex with men. Which would track, as sex is a form of close contact. If you're having sex with lots of different people, you're increasing your risk of exposure. And, well, my community has a lot more sex than others. Grindr doesn't populate itself.
But the CDC led with that without putting an exclamation point on how and why it spreads. They wanted to warn the gay community - prudent - without giving the most weight to modes of transmission - less prudent.
So now, there is a lot of misinformation floating about it and a lot of people do think it's an STD. Comparisons to the early rise of HIV and AIDS have been worming their way through the media, further cementing the impression in people's minds.
Reporting on this has been irresponsible, and the CDC hasn't helped. While I trust the scientists to understand these things, I'm starting to wonder if the press office there needs a thorough cleaning out. They didn't do any favors with their Covid mask fiasco, and they aren't acquitting themselves terribly well here.
(None of this makes MTG less of a perfect idiot, however).
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)People think it's a "gay" disease.
Very irresponsible, and I haven't forgotten the mask fiasco either.
LeftInTX
(25,587 posts)They don't want to bring back the old "cowpox" smallpox vaccines that everyone in the US born before 1972 received.
The smallpox vaccine is effective against monkeypox.
However, the scab that formed had the potential to spread cowpox.
Who knew?
Also the live vaccine has risks in immunocompromised individuals.
However, some cases of cowpox appear to be problematic. You can find a graphic image here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowpox
Whether we have have lifetime immunity to smallpox is debatable. A vaccinated researcher died along with two others in 1978. (UK)
However, the NYT article indicates that most of us have lifetime immunity.
I have no idea how contagious smallpox actually was, I always thought it was airborne like measles. However, cowpox was spread mostly by contact.
Interesting article. Who is Protected Against Monkeypoxhttps://archive.ph/jb5fw#selection-703.0-703.272
In 2010, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported that a woman in Washington had contracted vaccinia virus infection after digital vaginal contact with her boyfriend, a military member who had recently been vaccinated for smallpox. The woman had a history of childhood eczema, but she had not been symptomatic as an adult. The CDC indicated that it was aware of four similar cases in the preceding 12 months of vaccinia infection after sexual contact with a recent military vaccinee.[32] Further casesalso in patients with a history of eczemaoccurred in 2012.[33]
RobinA
(9,896 posts)to the CDC, you couldn't pay me enough to try to explain to science illiterates (most of the US population) something above, say, a fifth grade level concept. Not that the CDC is unflawed, but take a minute to think about their task! My radio news source (general news radio) has been saying for a month that monkeypox is not a sexually transmitted disease and that they aren't sure why it is currently mostly in the gay male population. To anybody with half a brain, hearing that would lead that person to speculate that there's a good chance that it will eventually break out of that population. Unfortunately for anyone trying to educate the population on anything harder than 2+2=4 (the CDC, for example), most of us seem to be functioning with less than half a brain these days.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)The virus is certainly spread through sexual contact, but just like HIV and other viruses, sexual contact isn't the only method of spread.
You know, some random person on the street, being confused about this newish disease, is understandable, but Greene, unfortunately, is a political leader. The fact that she is so morally and intellectually stupid, does her district, State, and this country a great disservice.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Her district elected her. So, there's that.
eShirl
(18,505 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Broken clock, I guess.
It is not an STD and we do not need to give the right wing a reason to vilify gay men again.
Though, I realize this is not her reasoning, by any means, it is the same conclusion.
LeftInTX
(25,587 posts)At least that is how many pox viruses are believed to be spread
I can't figure out whether smallpox was truly airborne or contact spread. Keep in mind that smallpox produces lesions all over the body. And lesions appear to be the source of smallpox spread. Smallpox also produces oral lesions and lesions in the throat, so I guess the ooze of those blisters go airborne....
Monkeypox is more like cowpox and produces a limited amount of lesions, hence it is more contact based.
Smallpox Transmission
Transmission occurred through inhalation of airborne Variola virus, usually droplets expressed from the oral, nasal, or pharyngeal mucosa of an infected person. It was transmitted from one person to another primarily through prolonged face-to-face contact with an infected person, usually, within a distance of 1.8 m (6 feet), but could also be spread through direct contact with infected bodily fluids or contaminated objects (fomites) such as bedding or clothing. Rarely, smallpox was spread by virus carried in the air in enclosed settings such as buildings, buses, and trains.[30] The virus can cross the placenta, but the incidence of congenital smallpox was relatively low.[32] Smallpox was not notably infectious in the prodromal period and viral shedding was usually delayed until the appearance of the rash, which was often accompanied by lesions in the mouth and pharynx. The virus can be transmitted throughout the course of the illness, but this happened most frequently during the first week of the rash when most of the skin lesions were intact.[31] Infectivity waned in 7 to 10 days when scabs formed over the lesions, but the infected person was contagious until the last smallpox scab fell off.[62]
Smallpox was highly contagious, but generally spread more slowly and less widely than some other viral diseases, perhaps because transmission required close contact and occurred after the onset of the rash. The overall rate of infection was also affected by the short duration of the infectious stage. In temperate areas, the number of smallpox infections was highest during the winter and spring. In tropical areas, seasonal variation was less evident and the disease was present throughout the year.[31] Age distribution of smallpox infections depended on acquired immunity. Vaccination immunity declined over time and was probably lost within thirty years.[32] Smallpox was not known to be transmitted by insects or animals and there was no asymptomatic carrier state.[31]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I am sure that may make spread easier.
But young children also require close physical contact through bathing and whatnot.