The damn dam has broke.

[kentuck]

Usually, when Liz Cheney makes a statement, you can take it pretty seriously. Near the end of the Committee's last hearing, she made the comment about "the dam has broke"? What did she mean by that?

Now, we see people like Mulvaney and Pompeo, and others, agreeing to testify in front of the Committee. Why are they doing it?

Likely, because they would like to be on record before they are subpoenaed to be in front of a criminal grand jury? Somehow it would make them look more cooperative, with nothing to hide. They do not wish to be directly connected to the DOJ investigation to overthrow our government, by violent means. They prefer to put some distance between themselves and Donald Trump.

[malaise]

1. Yes and no

vacuum can’t stop this Hoover type amount of evidence 😀😀

[duforsure]

2. We're seeing them positioning themselves now,

To flip exposing others to escape going to prison.

[Samrob]

20. They should never be allowed to enjoy the wealth they accumulated while serving Trump. Ever!

If it means worrying about attorney fees, investigations, subpoenas, law suits...you name it for the rest of their smarmy lives. They should have no peace!

[sop]

3. "The dam has broke"? More like the damn rats are abandoning a sinking ship.

[rubbersole]

4. This.

[Botany]

5. Are the rats starting to flee the "Trumptanic?" Tom Brady I haven't talked to Trump in years.

Tom Brady hasn’t spoken to Donald Trump in ‘lot of years’ and says their relationship was ‘mischaracterised’

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback, 44, was often pictured golfing with the ex-president before Trump took office in 2017, and had a conspicuously placed ‘Make America Great Again’ hat in his locker while with the New England Patriots two years earlier.

When asked about the relationship in a new interview with Variety, Tom admitted he hadn’t seen Trump for “a lot of years” but added he didn’t want to disparage anyone.

He said: “My personality isn’t ever one to insult anybody... I have plenty of my own flaws. I’m not here to point out anyone else’s flaws.

“There are things that I agree with. There are things that I don’t. There are things I agree with my wife about.

https://www.caledonianrecord.com/features/entertainment/tom-brady-hasn-t-spoken-to-donald-trump-in-lot-of-years-and-says-their/article_d0ed8a28-ee4b-5c83-8265-8bb7e678d0e2.html



1st Rupert and now Tom Brady.

Link to tweet

[Beartracks]

6. Trump who?

I barely knew the guy. Didn't he run for office or something?

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[Botany]

8. Hey, if the GOP wants to run with Trump in '22 let em. Biggest crook in American history.

“There are things that I agree with Hitler and then there are things that I don’t agree with Hitler on.
Besides since he invaded Russia I haven't talked to him at all."

BTW I stole that Hitler line from another DUer.

[Siwsan]

9. It looks like life has been rough on poor Jeff Spicoli. Too many fast times after Ridgemont High?

[stopdiggin]

11. Tom Brady is hardly the first sports figure

to show a disappointing lack of personal character. (same goes for a lot of other 'stars' in various walks) I find it mildly 'interesting' that Brady is walking back a connection that he didn't find at all troublesome a fairly short time ago. (might say something in a context of overall public perception and toxicity) Other than that .. he's still pretty much the same guy he's been all along.

"some things I agree with my wife about"
Indeed? Because you were too shallow to have such values and perceptions without outside input?

[Botany]

13. Stats don't lie ... Brady is a cheater

[dwayneb]

15. I love statistics

As an engineer I used them every single day. But I'm not sure what you are trying to say with these charts?

[Botany]

18. The Pats after they got to take the footballs that they played with "home with them" became ....

... almost fumble proof. Because less air in the ball means you can get a better grip on the
ball and in doing so you fumble a lot less. They were under inflating the balls that Brady and
the offense were using.

https://slate.com/culture/2015/01/stats-show-the-new-england-patriots-became-nearly-fumble-proof-after-a-2006-rule-change-pushed-by-tom-brady.html

[Hugh_Lebowski]

28. Right. And yet the Pats struggled in the first half of the Colts/Pats AFC Final

while the balls were supposedly deflated ... it was corrected at halftime of the when discovered ... and the Pats went out and destroyed the Colts in the 2nd half (28 points from the offense vs only 10 in the 1st half), and then won the Super Bowl ... while balls were closely monitored.

Then they won one more under Brady the next year. Then Brady won another at Tampa Bay at 40+ yo.

And those charts don't really prove what you they think they do. There's a lot of potential reasons why either the team's, or Brady's personally ... fumble statistics could improve. It's well-known that fumbling got players in Belichick's doghouse very quickly. BB wouldn't stand for it basically, he punished players for doing so. It can also change because you switch players, you switch O-lines (or blocking styles i.e zone to power blocking), you switch position coaches, you change playing styles (pass-heavy vs run heavy), you do more fumble drills etc.

There's also the fact that there are also DISADVANTAGES to deflated balls, because the ball becomes effectively more dense. It's not a panacea, it has both advantages and drawbacks.

As a Raider fan, I detest the Pats and Brady (if you recall the 2002 'snow job' playoff game, you'll know why, also Kraft sucks), so I'm not defending him as a fan of his (though I admire his skill and work-ethic), but afaic his continued success even after inflation levels were being monitored closely (basically 3 more SB wins afterwards) suggests that this type of cheating, if it was actually happening, was incidental to his success.

I consider the evidence against Brady having been a long-time cheater with deflated balls to be pretty weak, and I watched the story and investigation (and I saw those same charts, and the arguments for/against their relevance) really closely at the time. And it's also possible it was not Brady's scheme, and he was not aware of it going on.

I would buy that his ball-boy, knowing Brady liked his footballs a bit softer, took it on himself to provide his boss with what he perceived he wanted ... that day vs. the Colts.

MHO fwiw

[Maraya1969]

38. Are those numbers at the bottom the players numbers? And can you please explain "Touches per

fumble"

I have zero clues here.

[Botany]

39. A touch to me means one play .... the center hikes the ball to the QB and the QB either runs with

the ball, passes the ball, or hands the ball off to a R.B. (running back) before the NFL let the
teams handle the game balls themselves the Pats (Brady/Belichick) were right about league
average as 1 fumble every 30 to 40 plays but after they got to take of the ball "home with 'em"
that average went to 1 fumble every 70+ plays and one year it was like 1 fumble every 100 plays.
All NFL teams have people trying to take the ball away from the other team .... aka big strong nasty
men trying to rip it away on almost every play but less air pressure in the ball makes it a little easier
to hang on too.

The Pats/Belicheck have a long history of cheating or at the very least bending the rules.
Don't get me wrong they have been a very good team for many years and that is a fact.

[Maraya1969]

40. Thank you for this explanation.

[dwayneb]

14. Yep many celebrities and sports heroes seem to gravitate to narcissism

It's not surprising that some of them admire a scumbag like Trump.

[Joinfortmill]

19. Looks half dead. We can hope.

[live love laugh]

29. I thought that was drivel on his chin for a minute.

[Xoan]

33. Adderall and Benzos.

Quite the mess.

[stopdiggin]

7. despite much rhetoric, and breathless

florid headlines - the plain truth is that TFG is weakening every day - and looks increasingly unlikely to return to power. And thus, it's a simple matter of the calculus involved in a cynical and calculated self interest - and these 'creatures' see self preservation morphing in a new direction.

[duforsure]

10. That's why so many donors, groups and supporters ,

Are leaving him for someone else now.

[Ilsa]

30. Yeah, I think the big donors, the big name supporters are

abandoning him. They see what he's done, and since he couldn't get away with it, they are leaving him behind. The ones left holding the bag are the MTGreen supporters, etc, who think the committee is "another witch hunt."

[Novara]

12. Be aware that the last people to abandon him are the idiot racist rubes we share the planet with

Those people won't abandon him until everyone else has. They'll be the holdouts.

[vlyons]

17. and then they'll flock to a new racist asshole

birds of a feather, ya know

[DemUnleashed]

23. I..

I don't think the deplorable racists will ever abandon him!

[Turbineguy]

24. Dead-enders

[Joinfortmill]

16. They're despicable, but DOJ needs them to cut off the head of the fish, and that may not be Trump.

[Heather MC]

21. Steve Bannon going to Jail was the First Nail in Trumps Coffin because...

Steve Bannon came to Donald Trump because he was financially back by the Mercer family.

The Mercer family, Rupert Murdoch, The Koch brothers, Are all members of the John Birch society that was created in 1958. The Koch brothers father was one of the founding members.

The fact that Steve Bannon is going to jail means the John Birch society has dropped Donald Trump. So they are no longer protecting him from his deserved And well earn consequences.

Today I heard the RNC has threatened Donald Trump that if he announces a run for president before the 2022 election. They are going to stop paying his legal fees, which bags the question why the fuck are they paying his legal fees?.

Notice on Fox News they didn't show a trump rally instead they invited DeSantos on for a live interview, and they called him "the man of the moment".

Trump is dead, now if we democrats just stop talking about him he will actually disappear
And become a "where are they now" Is story about Americas Orangest Buffoo 20 years from now

🤷🏾‍♀️

All our media needs to do to move on from Donald Trump is say these words "and in other news…"

And they talk about anything else but him.

[lindysalsagal]

32. Love it. +1000

[PJMcK]

34. Loved this line

“Trump is dead,…”

I can’t wait till the day that headline is published.

[Heather MC]

36. 💜

[kentuck]

37. Right on!

They are trying to divorce themselves from him.

But he specializes in extortion and bribery.

[duckworth969]

41. Do you have a link for this statement? I'd like to learn more about it.

“The Mercer family, Rupert Murdoch, The Koch brothers, Are all members of the John Birch society that was created in 1958. The Koch brothers father was one of the founding members.”

Unfortunately, my grandfather was a member.

But I don’t much know about it’s history.

I thought it was fringe and largely defunct.

[DemUnleashed]

22. Mulvaney, Pompeo...

Mulvaney, Pompeo etc are all going to be wanting so much distance from Trump, they're going to be like "I don't remember the guy...I think he was our coffee boy" 😂

[czarjak]

25. They were for him bigly before they were against him.

[3825-87867]

26. John Birch Society - Chad Mitchell Trio

[jaxexpat]

27. Good luck with that "distance" thing.

Does anyone doubt for a minute those two (and many others) would've been happy to serve in an illegitimate government created by Trump if he'd only been smart enough to pull it off? They realized, just recently, they have nowhere to hide. Both are guilty of treason for incompetence (and criminal B.O.), if nothing else.

These guys need jail time just for respiring.

[H2O Man]

31. Recommended.

[Initech]

35. Trump has become too big of a risk. They're throwing him under the bus...

To save their own asses.