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Andrew Yang starts "centrist" third party with a bunch of former Republican office holders (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Jul 2022 OP
....who? ColinC Jul 2022 #1
Please don't erase POC, thank you AntivaxHunters Jul 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Fiendish Thingy Jul 2022 #14
I too am not white ColinC Jul 2022 #15
lol obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #18
Your post is offensive. William769 Jul 2022 #19
This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with political clout. Gore1FL Jul 2022 #24
Oh FFS BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #28
Uh huh. Sure n/t kcr Jul 2022 #32
As parents know, naming the baby is easier than raising it Raven123 Jul 2022 #2
Especially when they seem proud they have no policies other than not being D or R karynnj Jul 2022 #38
Bernie Sanders nailed it back in 2015 when he said that there are only two ways to the White House CrispyQ Jul 2022 #3
Because nobody is interested in starting a real third party which would take time JI7 Jul 2022 #5
I want no third paties...I look around at Europe...and it doesn't work...almost 20 year that Tories Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #8
I agree . People often bring up third parties in other countries but with the way the system works JI7 Jul 2022 #10
That is it...and in some countries...people are liberal but the vote is split between Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #41
Excuse me? I moved to France, and third parties have clout. Don't discount them. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #37
What is happening with Macron? You are in grave danger of electing one of the right wing nutters. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #39
Third parties are mathematically excluded as a fallout of our system. Gore1FL Jul 2022 #25
It was pretty clear back then, and no doubt now, that Yang was never a Democrat JohnSJ Jul 2022 #4
I can't see it being a good thing. CentralMass Jul 2022 #6
What's funny is those who supported him for President were the "i'm so progressive" types JI7 Jul 2022 #7
Democrats are denied the magic word "progressive" -- the club house sign says NO ESTABLISHMENT betsuni Jul 2022 #43
It's a party only a newspaper columnist or Beltway pundit could love JHB Jul 2022 #9
Well we've had the Bull Moose party now we get the Bullshit party. bluesbassman Jul 2022 #11
Oh, brother. Diamond_Dog Jul 2022 #13
C'mon, guys. Just vote for Democrats it won't hurt you just this once Walleye Jul 2022 #16
GOP Lite. Any REAL Democrat will not support him. Murphyb849 Jul 2022 #17
Maybe with all those Republicans MuseRider Jul 2022 #20
That's kind of my thought Victor_c3 Jul 2022 #29
You're right! geardaddy Jul 2022 #21
From the article: "The party, which is centrist, has no specific policies yet." FSogol Jul 2022 #22
Just another bored billionaire looking for some entertainment. I've had my fill of those types . Handler Jul 2022 #23
I say go for it newdayneeded Jul 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Dysfunctional Jul 2022 #33
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #27
They can name their party The Neocons + Andrew Midnight Writer Jul 2022 #30
Yeah, good luck with that, Andrew. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #31
I wondered how long it would take Deep State Witch Jul 2022 #34
Fucking fake little dick. we can do it Jul 2022 #35
Those "Democrats" are likely the same ones that show up in the polls as being for Republican chowder66 Jul 2022 #36
He is the problem. LiberalFighter Jul 2022 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jul 2022 #42
 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
12. Please don't erase POC, thank you
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jul 2022

I get you don't like him, I don't either, but please let's not erase POC.
It's incredibly offensive to those of us who aren't white.
Thank you.

Response to AntivaxHunters (Reply #12)

ColinC

(8,329 posts)
15. I too am not white
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jul 2022

In fact I am asian. And as an Asian person, I can promise you I have seen little representation of the needs of Asians -and those in our community by him. Calling out his irrelevance is not erasing people of color. In fact it is empowering us to find better representatives.

Gore1FL

(21,151 posts)
24. This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with political clout.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jul 2022

Wang is a political nobody. This isn't because he is an ethnic minority. It's because his total political experience is his assumptions that he has political experience.

BannonsLiver

(16,448 posts)
28. Oh FFS
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jul 2022

Nobody’s erasing anything. Yang is a piece of shit, and a con artist trying to do his bit to make Trump or DeSantis president in 2024 and we got people worried about others being mean to him.

As far as I’m concerned Andrew Yang can ESAD.

Raven123

(4,862 posts)
2. As parents know, naming the baby is easier than raising it
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:32 AM
Jul 2022

Announcing a new party without articulating policies or proposals makes no sense.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
38. Especially when they seem proud they have no policies other than not being D or R
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:46 PM
Jul 2022

This sounds a weaker "movement" than no labels was a little over a decade ago. (I had to think really hard and use Google to the best of my ability to even get their name as I had forgotten it.) They also at least had the idea of continuing to run in their party, but being part of a bipartisan caucus.

Consider that if Yang and Whitman are the best they can do for high profile leaders, this is going nowhere. Not to mention, what they really want seems to be the Republican party circa 1979 ... or in some cases the Reagan/Bush years. Yang's involvement suggests made a libertarian element too. If Yang is all they have as a Democrat, this is NOT in any ways a Democratic party.

CrispyQ

(36,509 posts)
3. Bernie Sanders nailed it back in 2015 when he said that there are only two ways to the White House
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:40 AM
Jul 2022

and one is through the Democratic Party and the other is through the Republican Party. That's true of most Congressional and State seats as well. No other parties have the infrastructure these two have.

JI7

(89,264 posts)
5. Because nobody is interested in starting a real third party which would take time
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:44 AM
Jul 2022

It would mean focusing on lower level elections first and building up.

And then maybe they can be competitive sometime in the future .

But the ones that bring up third party usually do so with Presidential election in mind . So of course no third party will be competitive in that situation .

Demsrule86

(68,667 posts)
8. I want no third paties...I look around at Europe...and it doesn't work...almost 20 year that Tories
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:46 AM
Jul 2022

have been winning PM in UK and we had Brexit. Third Parties suck.

JI7

(89,264 posts)
10. I agree . People often bring up third parties in other countries but with the way the system works
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jul 2022

it's not much better.

The countries where things are better and more liberal laws are passed is because the population is more liberal so most support those candidates and laws.

this is not true in the US .

Demsrule86

(68,667 posts)
41. That is it...and in some countries...people are liberal but the vote is split between
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jul 2022

multiple parties so it leads to minority rule...which is often on the conservative side.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
37. Excuse me? I moved to France, and third parties have clout. Don't discount them.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:02 PM
Jul 2022

That being said, Americans are devoted to two party politics.

Gore1FL

(21,151 posts)
25. Third parties are mathematically excluded as a fallout of our system.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jul 2022

If that were not the case, I still prefer the two-party system as the voter knows the coalition they are voting for when they vote, not after the election.

JI7

(89,264 posts)
7. What's funny is those who supported him for President were the "i'm so progressive" types
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:45 AM
Jul 2022

that would attack democrats for not being "progressive" enough .

betsuni

(25,610 posts)
43. Democrats are denied the magic word "progressive" -- the club house sign says NO ESTABLISHMENT
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jul 2022

ALLOWED. Magic words don't need real definitions. Now it's going to be populist progressive conservative centrists? This is getting complicated.

Like Tulsi Gabbard was supposed to be so progressive and nobody really could say why except for something about not liking American empires. Russian empire okay, though.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
9. It's a party only a newspaper columnist or Beltway pundit could love
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jul 2022

When you get down to it, it's entire premise is "not a dime's worth of difference" between the Democrats and the Raving Monster Loony Party.

Diamond_Dog

(32,057 posts)
13. Oh, brother.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jul 2022

Yang, a techie who loves the spotlight -- a bunch of former Reaganites -- and a few disgruntled centrist Dems. Excuse me if I don’t get excited over this.

MuseRider

(34,119 posts)
20. Maybe with all those Republicans
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:23 AM
Jul 2022

in it there will be enough disappointed Magats go there. There have to be at least some that are angry and not wanting to go with tfg or any MAGA candidate but cannot vote for Biden or someone else. It might end up helping us?

Just a stray thought. I do not think that is what he is thinking but perhaps it just might help.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
29. That's kind of my thought
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:07 AM
Jul 2022

With all the former republicans and no known democrats and no stated party platform, it looks like a party that could draw mostly from more moderate republicans.

I’m not going to get worked up about it just yet.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
21. You're right!
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jul 2022

It's interesting that the article only mentions support from former members of Repug admins. Not a single word about Democrats.

And yes, Fuck That Guy.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
22. From the article: "The party, which is centrist, has no specific policies yet."
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:46 AM
Jul 2022
A proposed personality cult around clueless tech-bro Andrew Yang! We're going to do lots of stuff about things!

newdayneeded

(1,957 posts)
26. I say go for it
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:01 AM
Jul 2022

It has majority of right wingers in the forming committee. I can only see a repub light type of party, that'll only drain votes from the repub party and their candidates.

That gives us a nice edge come election time.

Response to newdayneeded (Reply #26)

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
27. Recommended.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jul 2022

I had heard something about this. I think that Andrew will be about as successful as a kid who didn't make his high school basketball team, and decides to make his own team. I wasn't impressed with him before, and am far less so now.

Deep State Witch

(10,454 posts)
34. I wondered how long it would take
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jul 2022

For someone to break off from the GOPers and start a moderate third party. I didn't think it would be Yang, though.

chowder66

(9,080 posts)
36. Those "Democrats" are likely the same ones that show up in the polls as being for Republican
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 02:57 PM
Jul 2022

policies.

These "Democrats" probably haven't bothered to change their affiliation to Republican or Independent since they originally registered.

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