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gab13by13

(21,413 posts)
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:19 PM Jul 2022

Why do people believe the SS and DHS people used government phones?

Earlier this month, Secret Service officials told congressional committees that DHS Inspector General Joseph Cuffari, the department’s independent watchdog, was aware that texts had been erased in December 2021. But sources tell CNN, the Secret Service had notified Cuffari’s office of missing text messages in May 2021, seven months earlier."

For analysis, former Trump homeland security advisor Elizabeth Troye was interviewed by CNN's Jim Sciutto alongside former CIA agent Phil Mudd and government ethics expert Norm Eisen.

"When you work at senior levels in the Trump administration you kind of know where people's loyalties lie," Troye said. "There is a reason that I went very public with my concerns about the Trump administration rather than going through the traditional whistle-blower process, which would have led me to the inspector general's office at DHS. And I'll just say that. There's a level of trust there that you understand."

But Troye suggested there may not be text messages to recover.

"The other part of it is I've got to tell you, being a Trump admin person, most of the administration communicated on encrypted signal apps," she revealed. "A lot of the time these messages were likely disappearing."

https://www.rawstory.com/olivia-troye-reveals-she-went-public-because-she-did-not-trust-dhs-inspector-general/

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Why do people believe the SS and DHS people used government phones? (Original Post) gab13by13 Jul 2022 OP
Too Cheap & Lazy To Do Otherwise? Me. Jul 2022 #1
They used personal or burner phones with encryption, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #2
Why is Joseph Cuffari still DHS IG? gab13by13 Jul 2022 #3
Even burner phone texts had to go through the Capital celltower server, am I right? FakeNoose Jul 2022 #4
Not so sure, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #5
if they were using signal, no. mopinko Jul 2022 #6

gab13by13

(21,413 posts)
2. They used personal or burner phones with encryption,
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jul 2022

The DHS Inspector General needs to be put on a leave of absence, needs to be investigated by the FBI.

This guy, Joseph Cuffari, is a Trump appointee. This guy stopped investigations into Trump campaign super spreader rallies. This guy stopped an investigation into the Lafayette Square Trump photo op.

This guy is still the DHS IG. Why? Either President Biden or Alejandro Mayorkas should be able to put him on leave or fire him.

gab13by13

(21,413 posts)
3. Why is Joseph Cuffari still DHS IG?
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jul 2022

After discovering that some of the text messages the watchdog sought had been deleted, the Federal Protective Service, a DHS agency that guards federal buildings, offered their phones to the inspector general’s investigators, saying they lacked the resources to recover lost texts and other records on their own, according to three people familiar with the plan who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive investigation.

A senior forensics analyst in the inspector general’s office took steps to collect the Federal Protective Service phones, the people said. But late on the night of Friday, Feb. 18, one of several deputies who report to Cuffari’s management team wrote an email to investigators instructing them not to take the phones and not to seek any data from them, according to a copy of an internal record that was shared with The Post.

Staff investigators also drafted a letter in late January and early February to all DHS agencies offering to help recover any text messages or other data that might have been lost. But Cuffari’s management team later changed that draft to say that if agencies could not retrieve phone messages for the Jan. 6 period, they “should provide a detailed list of unavailable data and the reason the information is unavailable,” the three people said.

This is a Wa. Post article, now I can't find it.

FakeNoose

(32,781 posts)
4. Even burner phone texts had to go through the Capital celltower server, am I right?
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:28 PM
Jul 2022

After Jan. 6th, the FBI announced that they had captured virtually every call and text message made that day, because there's only one cellphone tower at the U.S. Capitol. The problem is matching up identities with the calls or messages. It was a monumental task, and that's what took a lot of the investigating time.

The FBI just needs something to point them in the right direction, like correct times and locations on the campus when they made their calls and texts. It's still doable.

gab13by13

(21,413 posts)
5. Not so sure,
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jul 2022

Dennis Riggleman was on Nicolle I believe, and I'm pretty sure he believes they are gone.

I will try to find what he said.

mopinko

(70,255 posts)
6. if they were using signal, no.
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 04:28 AM
Jul 2022

if they were using the native app on their phones, yes. but signal or whatsap, no.

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