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kpete

(72,022 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:09 AM Jul 2022

Gaetz broke a DOJ confidentiality agreement and told Stone what was in the Mueller report.

There’s a lot of talk about Gaetz wannabe mobster talk, but the pardon promise from “the boss” isn’t the most important part of this story.

Gaetz broke a DOJ confidentiality agreement and told Stone what was in the Mueller report. That’s prosecutable.

Gaetz also spoke with Stone about redacted parts of the Mueller report that DOJ showed House Judiciary members in a secure room under a confidentiality agreement: “There was a lot on you in the full redact that came out in the skinny redact.”


New: Rep. Matt Gaetz was caught on a hot mic assuring Roger Stone that Trump would likely pardon him shortly before Stone’s criminal trial in 2019. “The boss still has a very favorable view of you … he said it directly.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/07/30/roger-stone-matt-gaetz-pardon-mueller/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjE5OTYyNjA0IiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY1OTE5MjMxMiwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY2MDQwMTkxMiwiaWF0IjoxNjU5MTkyMzEyLCJqdGkiOiI3OGQxN2Y1Zi1jY2NjLTQ5NmQtYjQ2NC05MmJmYTkyNzE2NzAiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vaW52ZXN0aWdhdGlvbnMvMjAyMi8wNy8zMC9yb2dlci1zdG9uZS1tYXR0LWdhZXR6LXBhcmRvbi1tdWVsbGVyLyJ9.Caf4gXA80AtOfg5N7oHueMX-t3ctozI-LhltfQWJ_n0


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.....”After he arrived offstage adhering to his speech in the Donald J. Trump Grand Ballroom, Stone was joined backstage by Gaetz, a Trump favorite who was talking later in the afternoon. With function personnel coming and heading nearby, their conversation turned immediately to Stone’s demo and Mueller’s investigation.The Justice Office experienced publicly introduced a edition of Mueller’s ultimate report in which some sections had been redacted to guard classified information, grand jury secrecy and energetic investigations or prosecutions.Stone had questioned Jackson to purchase prosecutors to exhibit him a entire, unredacted variation of Mueller’s report. On Aug. 1, 2019, Jackson granted Stone entry to some redacted sections relating to him in Vol. 1 of the report, which centered on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Jackson mentioned in her ruling that most of the redacted materials in Vol. 2 — which included Trump’s alleged obstruction of justice — similar to Stone, but she declined to let him see it.The content was protected by a protecting get that barred Stone from sharing it with everyone other than his lawyers and from utilizing it “for any purpose” other than his legal defense, Jackson wrote.Backstage at AMPFest, Stone discussed the Mueller material with Gaetz in wide strokes, proclaiming that thanks to Jackson’s ruling, he’d seen “the overall unredacted report,” which he mentioned held no damaging specifics on him. It is not apparent what Stone meant by that remark......

https://news.makanany.com/business/matt-gaetz-confident-roger-stone-of-pardon-on-hot-mic-mentioned-mueller-redactions/

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Gaetz broke a DOJ confidentiality agreement and told Stone what was in the Mueller report. (Original Post) kpete Jul 2022 OP
WE can't see it.... Chin music Jul 2022 #1
+1 Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #5
Shows the character of Gaetz that he's still a trumper... brush Jul 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #37
He also transported a child across state lines to have sex with her. That's prosecutable too. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #2
+1 SoFloDenny Jul 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #38
The wrongdoing on the other side is stacked high as a mountain CrispyQ Jul 2022 #3
prosecute the motherfucer Novara Jul 2022 #4
OT: Is some of this writing clumsy, or is my brain skipping? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #6
Looks like a Google translate version. tblue37 Jul 2022 #13
Yes it does. But translated from what? wnylib Jul 2022 #19
русский? нт usonian Jul 2022 #23
Possibly. wnylib Jul 2022 #28
Yeah, I found it almost unintelligible. wnylib Jul 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jul 2022 #17
"The Boss"? ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #7
Why is a human sex trafficker still IN CONGRESS 18 months after his crimes? onecaliberal Jul 2022 #8
I would really like to see the full report too WA-03 Democrat Jul 2022 #9
yeah sexually assaulting minors is prosecutable too... Takket Jul 2022 #10
They pull this shit because they never have to pay for it. calimary Jul 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #39
Gaetz belongs in prison. Martin68 Jul 2022 #12
+1 n/t area51 Jul 2022 #14
Gaetz violated a DoJ confidentiality agreement? MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #15
And why is it that we citizens who paid for the Mueller Report still cannot see it? Lonestarblue Jul 2022 #20
And Chin music Jul 2022 #41
What a slimy little weasel Gaetz is. 😡 SergeStorms Jul 2022 #21
So, what are some things we learn from this? Captain Zero Jul 2022 #24
Unfortunately here in Florida this may only serve to raise Gaetz's profile NoMoreRepugs Jul 2022 #25
The over riding fact is DENVERPOPS Jul 2022 #26
So give up then. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #35
"The Boss" Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #27
If they're not going to prosecute Gaetz, then some Democrat should just release it. dem4decades Jul 2022 #29
This! It needs to be leaked immediately, and I don't care how they do it FakeNoose Jul 2022 #36
Gaetz should be in jail. sakabatou Jul 2022 #30
I agree rockfordfile Jul 2022 #42
DOJ will address Gaetz after they're done with Hunter Biden's nothing taxes uponit7771 Jul 2022 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #43
Just SCUMFUCKS though out the GOP.. n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #32
THE MEULLER REPORT. IT AIN'T DEAD. IT AIN'T ALIVE. WHAT THE HELL IS IT? usonian Jul 2022 #33
It will be a great day when Matt Gaetz meets his cousin Steel Gaetz and his friend Razor Wire. AZLD4Candidate Jul 2022 #34
Pervs of a feather Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #40
What's the point of the report if it never used and never read? elias7 Jul 2022 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #45

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
1. WE can't see it....
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jul 2022

but implicated folks can.
trmps a russian asset. We need that report. It's literally been hidden for years.

brush

(53,896 posts)
18. Shows the character of Gaetz that he's still a trumper...
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jul 2022

after seeing all the documented crimes trump is guilty of in the unredacted Mueller Report.

Response to brush (Reply #18)

Scrivener7

(51,022 posts)
2. He also transported a child across state lines to have sex with her. That's prosecutable too.
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jul 2022

That was discovered a year and a half ago.

Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #2)

CrispyQ

(36,527 posts)
3. The wrongdoing on the other side is stacked high as a mountain
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jul 2022

& yet they are all conducting business as usual. Al Franken's making commentary from the sideline but Gaetz is still a congressman. I know, I know. Be patient. Justice is coming.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,451 posts)
6. OT: Is some of this writing clumsy, or is my brain skipping?
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jul 2022

Somebody stole my decoder ring. Emphasis added...

The Justice Office experienced publicly introduced a edition of Mueller’s ultimate report in which some sections had been redacted to guard classified information, grand jury secrecy and energetic investigations or prosecutions.Stone had questioned Jackson to purchase prosecutors to exhibit him a entire, unredacted variation of Mueller’s report. On Aug. 1, 2019, Jackson granted Stone entry to some redacted sections relating to him in Vol. 1 of the report, which centered on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Jackson mentioned in her ruling that most of the redacted materials in Vol. 2 — which included Trump’s alleged obstruction of justice — similar to Stone, but she declined to let him see it.The content was protected by a protecting get that barred Stone from sharing it with everyone other than his lawyers and from utilizing it “for any purpose” other than his legal defense, Jackson wrote.

Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #6)

calimary

(81,514 posts)
11. They pull this shit because they never have to pay for it.
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jul 2022

WHEN are jerks like him finally held accountable?????

Response to calimary (Reply #11)

Lonestarblue

(10,088 posts)
20. And why is it that we citizens who paid for the Mueller Report still cannot see it?
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jul 2022

What is so secret about the crimes Trump and his buddies committed that we do not have a right to know of them? After all, Garland declined to prosecute any of them. I’m surprised that some news outlet has not used the Freedom of Information Act to pry an unredacted version of this report out of the DOJ. Redacting stuff because it’s embarrassing (as I think some of the parts about Don Jr. were) is not an excuse. All of this was allowed to go away for political,reasons, but those same people are still around and planning even more crimes for 2024.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
41. And
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jul 2022

it gave trmp and the reds 2 years to exploit their gains and burrow in, while we waited for justice.
"Give him a chance."

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
21. What a slimy little weasel Gaetz is. 😡
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 01:36 PM
Jul 2022

He's the type of asshole always trying to suck up to whoever is at the top of whatever shit pile he's currently around. The sort of guy you'd like to rearrange his face, but anything you did would only improve on his looks.

I want this slimy little bastard in jail. And not a resorts international jail, either. A real jail with proper hardened criminals, just waiting for a soft, prissy little shit like Matty. Criminals that will teach him what prison is all about.

Captain Zero

(6,827 posts)
24. So, what are some things we learn from this?
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jul 2022

1. It sounds like Gaetz and Stone have had some kind of symbiotic working relationship for some time.
2. Even if there was nothing in the Full Mueller according to Stone, he was interested, and maybe worried about something.
3. Gaetz can't keep confidential information secret.
4. Gaetz has more chargeable crimes now. (sharing top secret styuff with Stone)

Things to ask/assume:
Gaetz is probably a Russian asset.
What other top secret stuff has Gaetz shared with Stone or others?
Cant we put Gaetz in jail NOW, for something, and disrupt his collusion with Russia?

NoMoreRepugs

(9,473 posts)
25. Unfortunately here in Florida this may only serve to raise Gaetz's profile
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 02:09 PM
Jul 2022

and re-elect him by an even wider margin. You have to understand Florida stupid is a special kind of stupid.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
26. The over riding fact is
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jul 2022

that Mueller ate up alot of time, alot of energy, and his investigation, thanks to him, was so far worthless.........

Mueller broadly "hinted" at several things, but after being a lifetime Republican himself, he could not release a complete and true report to the American People that would surely have brought down the ENTIRE Republican Party.....

And you wonder why people are so reluctant to believe anything, about ANY investigation going on, including Garland's.......

All WE see is the very tiny edge of massive coverups at every level of the Republican's Operations, and every level of the Republican Party.

I don't put much faith in that ANY of the Republicans will ever be punished for anything, and I believe we are witnessing the end of our government's Democracy. I dread the 2022 election, because I feel that regardless of who "wins" all hell is gonna break loose the next day.
If the Repubs win, they will feel even more emboldened with their new and certain power, and all hell will break loose.
If the Dems win, the Repubs 70 Million Trumphumpers will "act out" on the streets of this country all across the nation........
If the Repubs win the house and senate, by hook or by crook, in this 2022 election, it is Katie Bar The Door, forever more.
The 2024 election will be a joke, just like the so called "elections" that take place in Russia.........and with the many Despot controlled tyrannies in other countries across the globe......

It will be the final end to our beloved Democracy in the USA, and we will see instead: a Corporate Fascist Tyranny installed........
There will be the top 1% controlling everything, and the other 99% will be reduced to serfs and peasants..........

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
29. If they're not going to prosecute Gaetz, then some Democrat should just release it.
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jul 2022

We always play by the fucking rules and they don't. And it's too their advantage.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
36. This! It needs to be leaked immediately, and I don't care how they do it
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:43 PM
Jul 2022

Matt Gaetz was sent to Stone (in jail) with a message from Chump.
The message was simple. Keep your mouth shut and you'll get your pardon.
Stone got the message and he got his pardon. Is everyone clear on that?

Now it's time for us Dems to start playing by the Repukes' rules.
Leak the unredacted Mueller Report immediately.
I'm sure Merrick Garland has it right in his office.

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #31)

usonian

(9,899 posts)
33. THE MEULLER REPORT. IT AIN'T DEAD. IT AIN'T ALIVE. WHAT THE HELL IS IT?
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 02:56 PM
Jul 2022
Feds put $10m bounty on Putin pal accused of bankrolling US election troll farm
https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/29/feds_10m_bounty_russia/
Jessica Lyons Hardcastle Fri 29 Jul 2022

The Feds have put up a $10 million reward for information about foreign interference in US elections in general, and more specifically a Russian oligarch and close friend of President Vladimir Putin accused of funding an organization that meddled in the 2016 presidential elections.

The bounty, offered through the US Department of State's Rewards for Justice program, specifically seeks intel on Russia's Internet Research Agency (IRA), businessman Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin, and any "linked Russian entities and associates for their engagement in US election interference."

...

These 12 (Russian Nationals), along with Prigozhin and the IRA, were all indicted [PDF] in 2018 following special counsel Robert Muller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The Feds are asking anyone with information on the IRA, Prigozhin or any other Russian individuals and organizations linked to US election interference to contact the Rewards for Justice office via a Tor-based tips-reporting channel. ®


Would TFG do it for $10 million? Who will?

elias7

(4,027 posts)
44. What's the point of the report if it never used and never read?
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:29 AM
Jul 2022

Redactions to preserve data collection methods is utter bullshit, IMO, if that data is never known and never used for any purpose. I’ve been hearing about protecting the means to collect data for decades, and I don’t think our intell collecting procedures are so unguessable that they merit being kept secret EVEN WHEN DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE!!

Response to elias7 (Reply #44)

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