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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:29 AM Jul 2022

The flood in KY brings back a lot of trauma and memories from 1977.

Jimmy Carter was the President.

I was driving from Nashville back to the mountains of KY and it rained my entire trip. The roof of my car started leaking.

By midnight, people were going door to door to tell folks they had to evacuate their homes. My Mom and sisters went to the big Baptist Church in the middle of town. It seemed like a safe refuge.

By two or three am, the water was coming over the floodwall and started to cover the homes. My mom lost her car and all her possessions.

There were so many stories from that flood. I recall how one man was rescued halfway up a telephone pole in his diver's frogsuit.

I remember a neighbor that had an invalid grandmother and decided to move into the third floor of their home where they thought they would be safe. When they stepped out of their bed in the dark at 2:30 in the morning, the water was up to their knees.

The postmaster killed himself.

The water was about to get into the hospital as they brought people into the back door in boats.

My Mom and family and others were rescued from the church about midnight and they had to crawl out a window in the top floor of the church and duck under the electrical wires as the boat got them out of the church.

A woman on the other side of the town was having a baby and they had to bring her to the hospital as the boat crossed the steel-span bridges on the way.

My brothers and friends parked on a road above the graveyard as the water kept rising. There was a rumor that a coffin had come out of a freshly dug grave.

There were so many stories. This flood in Kentucky brings them all back.

Three days later, the water had receded and many were able to get back into their homes. The mud was 6 to 8 inches deep on the sidewalk leading to the door. There was a stick of butter behind the screen door. The refrigerator was on its back in the kitchen. Some photos and few items were saved. Everything else was destroyed by the water and mud.

(Before I had evacuated, I had put my record collection on my bed and covered it up with the blanket. When I uncovered it, the album on top of the stack was Fathers and Sons by Muddy Waters. It was an ironic coincidence.)

But then, just as the people in Kentucky today, there was no place to live. Many people were homeless and did not have family to live with. There was no food or water.

Jimmy Carter will always be revered by our family. He sent in FEMA as soon as possible to help all the victims. He managed to get mobile homes brought in from all the surrounding states for people to live in, some as far away as Georgia and Florida. It was a lifesaver for my Mom.

I can understand what these folks in Kentucky are going thru at this time.

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The flood in KY brings back a lot of trauma and memories from 1977. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2022 OP
Thanks for posting this. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #1
FEMA is already on it. Biden declared an emergency. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #6
Thanks for this OP malaise Jul 2022 #2
Jimmy flew over in a helicopter. kentuck Jul 2022 #3
What? He didn't throw paper towels at them? BigmanPigman Jul 2022 #13
Such a terrible situation in Kentucky liberal N proud Jul 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #5
The refrigerator on its side, that happened to us. Luckily, it was a vacation home. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #7
I don't need to experience a flood to know how much it sucks. twodogsbarking Jul 2022 #8
Thank you for that 1st person account. I remember that flood and how devastating it was. Fla Dem Jul 2022 #9
Thank you for the vivid memories. ancianita Jul 2022 #10
Can't imagine.. denbot Jul 2022 #11
Kick dalton99a Jul 2022 #12
I remember that. LittleGirl Jul 2022 #14
So sad. Terrain is the culpret as well as the amount of precip. paleotn Jul 2022 #15
I don't know if there was any construction or strip mining in the area. kentuck Jul 2022 #16
Think of all the old logging roads cut since the 19th century onward... paleotn Jul 2022 #18
I was 13 in 1977, I was visiting Harlan. William769 Jul 2022 #17
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #19
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2022 #20
the destruction from floods is overwhelming Skittles Aug 2022 #21
Thanks for the link, Skittles. kentuck Aug 2022 #22

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,403 posts)
1. Thanks for posting this.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:53 AM
Jul 2022

Joe Biden and Andy Beshear are trying to help.

I don't know if FEMA is as it should be at this time. (So many things were damaged by MAGA).

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
13. What? He didn't throw paper towels at them?
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jul 2022

Rosalynn didn't wear a jacket with "I really don't care, do you?" written on it?

Response to kentuck (Original post)

3Hotdogs

(12,402 posts)
7. The refrigerator on its side, that happened to us. Luckily, it was a vacation home.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:10 AM
Jul 2022

House got flooded. We fixed it.

A year later, we fixed it. Then we sold it. It hasn't flooded since. That was 20 years ago. Funny. We sold it for exactly the amount of money we bought it for. So, minus taxes, we had 12 years of a vacation home for the cost of taxes, dry wall and paint. And a new refrigerator.

Fla Dem

(23,736 posts)
9. Thank you for that 1st person account. I remember that flood and how devastating it was.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:43 AM
Jul 2022

To have it happen again in Kentucky and Tennessee is heartbreaking. Hope whatever friends and/or family might still be there are safe.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
10. Thank you for the vivid memories.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jul 2022

Awareness of the long term reality of these disasters is important. If world govts haven't waited until too late to avert the worst climate effects, we might only have to live with these kinds of destruction.

Glad you remember your mom, and how your experience turned out through the help of Carter.

None of our opponents ever see their boss owners and corporate sponsors rushing in to save humans.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
14. I remember that.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jul 2022

I lived in northern Indiana where RVs are made by the thousands. I remember several companies sending them down for people to live in while they repaired or replaced their homes.
Peace.

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
15. So sad. Terrain is the culpret as well as the amount of precip.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:32 AM
Jul 2022

It's not like flood waters rising in the vast, Mississippi floodplain. The tall hills and hollows turn creeks to raging torrents of bibilcal proportion. When we live in western NC, that was our biggest worry come hurricane season. Ivan and Frances left a mark.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
16. I don't know if there was any construction or strip mining in the area.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jul 2022

In '77, I was working construction helping to put steel towers on the mountains from Pineville to Lynch in Harlan County and we had to cut a lot of roads up the mountains to get the steel to the top and those roads became like ditches for the water to run to the valley below when the hard rains came. I felt a certain guilt after the huge flood, that I was somehow responsible for disturbing the environmental balance of nature by working on that job. It is a delicate balance, in my opinion, and every tree and plant has a purpose in nature.

paleotn

(17,946 posts)
18. Think of all the old logging roads cut since the 19th century onward...
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:51 AM
Jul 2022

Our part of the NC mountains were crisscrossed with them. Same for East KY I'm sure. They have an impact on drainage, but then again, even in the primeval forest, geologic uplift and torrential flooding are what shaped the terrain to begin with. So I wouldn't feel too guilty.

William769

(55,147 posts)
17. I was 13 in 1977, I was visiting Harlan.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jul 2022

I was at my aunt's house down on the riverbank. When the water started rising to a dangerous level, we had to get up the hill to 119 pretty damn fast. We had to hurry as fast as we could about a half mile till we got to King Hollow to our cousin's house (we couldn't drive because of the mud coming down at us trying to get up that damn hill).

My aunt's house is gone, they literally moved the river, they laid down the new four lane 421 & built a flood wall around the City of Harlan. Sunshine & Dressen still lay at the foot of King Hollow, but I'd be damned if I would ever live there.

My family has a long rough history here. Appalachian style.

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