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usonian

(9,903 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:16 AM Aug 2022

These Companies Know When You're Pregnant--And They're Not Keeping It Secret (UPDATED)

Last edited Mon Aug 1, 2022, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Updated August 1. 4 pm Pacific.
Data brokers resist pressure to stop collecting info on pregnant people
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/01/data-information-pregnant-people-00048988
Short:

In the three months since POLITICO reported the draft opinion against Roe, numerous congressional Democrats have sent letters to data brokers urging them to stop the practice, promised to interrogate the companies about their collections and introduced bills to restrict reproductive health data from being collected and sold.

But in the absence of federal data privacy legislation or any likely chance of it getting the support needed to pass, many brokers aren’t taking heed.

...

Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.), who introduced a bill in January that would ban targeted advertising, has been calling on companies to stop collecting data on women’s health entirely.

“Data brokers and all companies that collect personal data have an obligation to ensure intimate data about women’s health isn’t collected in the first place, allowing prosecutors in states that criminalize abortion to use it against women,” Eshoo said in an email.


Lots here, but that's the essence. Lots of small players, unlikely to do anything unless data protection laws are passed (DID I MENTION, WE NEED A SUPER-MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES?) or companies are shamed in public (call for hearings, lots of them?)




https://gizmodo.com/data-brokers-selling-pregnancy-roe-v-wade-abortion-1849148426

And thanks to the Supreme Court’s decision to overthrow Roe v. Wade, a good chunk of the nation’s police and private citizens can go after people seeking abortions and the doctors that would serve them if there’s enough evidence.

And in 2022, there is plenty of data to go around and plenty of players willing to pawn it off if the price is right. A Gizmodo investigation into some of the nation’s biggest data brokers found more than two dozen promoting access to datasets containing digital information on millions of pregnant and potentially pregnant people across the country. At least one of those companies also offered a large catalogue of people who were using the same sorts of birth control that’s being targeted by more restrictive states right now. ( https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/05/19/some-states-already-are-targeting-birth-control )

In total, Gizmodo identified 32 different brokers across the U.S. selling access to the unique mobile IDs from some 2.9 billion profiles of people pegged as “actively pregnant” or “shopping for maternity products.” Also on the market: data on 478 million customer profiles labeled “interested in pregnancy” or “intending to become pregnant.” You can see the full list of companies for yourself here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10XtXHs4FFV6yzaIwHLGEMsUzclbtZHdNIfXcIfZnhl8/edit?usp=sharing )

...

In other cases, these companies were doing exactly what Target had done all those years before: instead of collecting data from end-users that were explicitly saying they’re pregnant, the brokers instead modeled a core base of potentially pregnant users with internal data analysis.


HOW?
That's long and I am over the limit on quotes, so here's a picture. The process of data gathering is shady and kept secret.
See the linked article for Gizmodo's best guesses.




I'd like to say that there's an answer, but I don't have one, other than:

• These anti-abortion laws are blatantly unconstitutional, since they enforce ONE religion's views on all others.
• (opinion) The "constitutional scholars" appointed to the USSC, drunks, lechers, stooges for Putin, flunkies and glorified teaching assistants, are STRICT DESTRUCTIONISTS of the Constitution, and need to be removed by every legal means.These days, legal seems to mean "Whatever you can get away with."
* Idiot anti-abortion and contraception laws need to be challenged and appealed all the way to the USSC (oops!). See previous point.
• STRICT AS FUCKING HELL DATA PROTECTION LAWS. If the Secret Service can lose its data, SO CAN DATA BROKERS,


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These Companies Know When You're Pregnant--And They're Not Keeping It Secret (UPDATED) (Original Post) usonian Aug 2022 OP
Readymade surveillance -- perfect for impending authoritarianism. enough Aug 2022 #1
Maybe some of the tinfoil hatters were right... DSandra Aug 2022 #9
Don't ever think that your medical records are not shared, no matter the HIPPA laws. walkingman Aug 2022 #2
Thank you, my dear usonian, for opening the door to what is happening to our data. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2022 #3
We should all start shopping for baby stuff and trash the data lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #4
i'm 67. maybe i should get a couple period trackers. mopinko Aug 2022 #5
If I lived in Texas, or another illegal state, I would, too. lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #6
Yeah, I'm an old dude and I get a mild form of migraine about once a month ..... usonian Aug 2022 #7
Menopause. Totally sucks! Lol! lindysalsagal Aug 2022 #27
If women get menopause, what do men get? usonian Aug 2022 #28
I still drop sad eggs... Generic Other Aug 2022 #8
Good idea, I am 67 also Racygrandma Aug 2022 #19
Sign up for a baby registry at Target or WalMart or whatever. Ilsa Aug 2022 #11
I was thinking the same thing Ohioboy Aug 2022 #12
But these laws and proposed laws only track women so who cares, right? Ligyron Aug 2022 #10
The super zealots will go after condoms, too. CrispyQ Aug 2022 #13
Every Sperm is Sacred usonian Aug 2022 #14
BOOKMARK Hekate Aug 2022 #15
"...blatantly unconstitutional..." is the law of the land now. dchill Aug 2022 #16
I'm looking for hot senior singles and pregnant at the same time arlyellowdog Aug 2022 #17
Progressive men need to search for these products constantly to clog the surveillance system bucolic_frolic Aug 2022 #18
Not that new.. Grins Aug 2022 #20
Those were the good old days. usonian Aug 2022 #21
Our Congress has been sadly remiss in protecting the privacy and personal data of citizens. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #22
Pay cash. Do not use customer loyalty cards. Get RIFD proof wallet. Shop at local merchants. Midnight Writer Aug 2022 #23
Farcebook is the worst, but it's not the only source Warpy Aug 2022 #24
Important Abortion Info links and Digital Privacy Information usonian Aug 2022 #25
Thanks! Warpy Aug 2022 #26
"Destructionists" ... yes! That word has escaped me. live love laugh Aug 2022 #29
It's a take-off on "strict constructionists" Another euphemism for troglodyte, usonian Aug 2022 #30
Kick for the update. usonian Aug 2022 #31

walkingman

(7,671 posts)
2. Don't ever think that your medical records are not shared, no matter the HIPPA laws.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:27 AM
Aug 2022

After I was diagnosed and treated for NHL (non-hodgkin's lymphoma) I was contact by multiple law firms trying to get me to join the class action lawsuits against Roundup. The info had to come from either my Oncologist or Pharmacy. How else would they have known?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,720 posts)
3. Thank you, my dear usonian, for opening the door to what is happening to our data.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:27 AM
Aug 2022

Those companies are way out of line on our privacy.

Racygrandma

(109 posts)
19. Good idea, I am 67 also
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:37 PM
Aug 2022

I should go buy one also. I no longer have a uterus! That will give them something to worry about.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
11. Sign up for a baby registry at Target or WalMart or whatever.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:04 PM
Aug 2022

My guess is that registries work, too.

I'd start using more cash if I was a young woman.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
10. But these laws and proposed laws only track women so who cares, right?
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:01 PM
Aug 2022

I mean, it's not like they are tracking vasectomies or condom sales.

CrispyQ

(36,532 posts)
13. The super zealots will go after condoms, too.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:11 PM
Aug 2022

There's already been a story about a clerk—a clerk, mind you, not even a pharmacist—refusing to sell condoms to a woman. Sex for procreation only.

dchill

(38,547 posts)
16. "...blatantly unconstitutional..." is the law of the land now.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:34 PM
Aug 2022

Without that, the Right hasn't a leg to stand on.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
17. I'm looking for hot senior singles and pregnant at the same time
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:36 PM
Aug 2022

I’ve been looking for “hot senior singles in my area” ever since my husband died, and I’ve been pregnant ever since I started buying diapers for my grandkids. If I write “chocolate” in this comment maybe I’ll get a coupon for something that actually applies to me.

Grins

(7,234 posts)
20. Not that new..
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:44 PM
Aug 2022

At least 15 years ago:

16 year old girl gets congratulations and offer from CVS.
On her pregnancy.
Offers discounts on baby stuff.
Father sees it and goes nuts.
Goes to local CVS and tears them a new one.
Files charges in court: “How dare you…!”

16-year old daughter: “Uhhh; dad…!”

She was pregnant.
All CVS had done was analyze her buying habits and - Bingo!

usonian

(9,903 posts)
21. Those were the good old days.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:51 PM
Aug 2022

When only Target and CVS were doing it.
It's massive now.

See my other Monday story.
https://democraticunderground.com/100216988884
Meta, US hospitals sued for using healthcare data to target ads

No, I'm not doom-peddling. I just read HackerNews ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newest ) and report salient tech stuff here.

Lonestarblue

(10,091 posts)
22. Our Congress has been sadly remiss in protecting the privacy and personal data of citizens.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 01:02 PM
Aug 2022

We need to demand more.

Midnight Writer

(21,812 posts)
23. Pay cash. Do not use customer loyalty cards. Get RIFD proof wallet. Shop at local merchants.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 01:03 PM
Aug 2022

Take all these steps and you will still not be secure.

Warpy

(111,359 posts)
24. Farcebook is the worst, but it's not the only source
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 01:12 PM
Aug 2022

ATM and credit card purchases are tracked, so buy that pregnancy test kit for cash, kiddies, and don't use that supermarket discount card, either. Going to Planned Parenthood for a checkup? Leave that phone at home, those are tracked. Online searches are tracked. If you can't afford a VPN, use Ghostery to eliminate beacons and trackers and a search engine that clears your data daily, like DuckDuckGo or Start Page. Set your browser to clear cookies, cache and history when you close it. This won't stop you from being tracked, but it will slow them down. And ferkrissakes, dump Facebook. It's evil.

Probably 99% of trackers just want to sell you something. It's that 1% that are worrisome, the political hacks and the rabid antiabortion crowd who buy into a religion that says it's OK to lie, cheat, steal, and murder as long as they do it for Jesus. This is what we're all up against.

Data protection laws will be very slow in coming. Political hacks rely on having no laws.

usonian

(9,903 posts)
25. Important Abortion Info links and Digital Privacy Information
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 01:40 PM
Aug 2022

From my info page (I will repost my three info/GOTV pages shortly, for visibility)

Trusted sources for abortion information.
https://democraticunderground.com/100216891804
Digital Security and Privacy Tips for Those Involved in Abortion Access
https://democraticunderground.com/100216837332
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Online Anonymity
https://anonymousplanet-ng.org/

live love laugh

(13,142 posts)
29. "Destructionists" ... yes! That word has escaped me.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 03:06 PM
Aug 2022

Perfectly fitting tho: Insurrectionists and Destructionists

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