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malaise
(269,200 posts)That is all
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Scheming, always delaying, and of course a large helping of GROSS mixed in.
That grave thing, if true, that is so low, he is going to need a row of gold toilets around his coffin with a integrated system taking in all the golden love he is due!?!
How difficult is it to HOLD the tippy top tier asshole as flight risk?
BannonsLiver
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Celerity
(43,579 posts)Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,489 posts)as presented in the previous post.
Celerity
(43,579 posts)Afghanistan on the 1980's (met bin Laden in 1986) and rolled his group into bin Laden's Al-Qaeda.
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Kingofalldems
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Kingofalldems
(38,489 posts)Celerity
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Celerity
(43,579 posts)a huge win for Biden!
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Celerity
(43,579 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)What must have gone into keeping him alive and active since the 1990s while the world hunted him! Impressive that he managed to live half this long.
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GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)with no interest in learning how to land them?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)State-sponsored terrorism has far greater capabilities than private. Under a worst-case but possible grid-destruction scenario presented to congress some time ago, 99% of Americans would be dead at the end of a year.
Maybe we need to chew both foreign and domestic gum at the same time -- for our lives.
TheBeam19
(344 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)4139
(1,893 posts)as common as bill, bob, Joe and John combined
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)The total costs of the U.S. drone program are difficult to assess. Funding is spread across many different legislative line items and is often not clearly marked. Expert estimates differ on the annual cost of the program. According to the Bard College Center for the Study of the Drone, the Department of Defense requested approximately $9.39 billion for drones and associated technologies in the fiscal year 2019 budget. The Stimson Center assessed the administrations request at $3.4 billion for drone procurement, research, development, testing, and evaluation.
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In post-9/11 war zones, drones have been used to target members of non-state organized armed groups that the U.S. has been engaged in armed conflict with, such as ISIS in Iraq and Syria and al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
But beyond the context of armed conflict, the U.S. government uses drones to target people on a kill list who the administration considers to be high-value targets and who may or may not be in an active war zone. Drones are also used to conduct signature strikes based on vaguely defined, suspicious patterns of an individuals behavior. Upon closer inspection, the rationale often crumbles. For example, a January 2018 strike in Yemen appears to have mistakenly targeted a 70-year-old farmer and his younger relative.
U.S. drone surveillance footage has also misidentified civilians as terrorist targets. An August 2021 strike in Afghanistan mistakenly targeted an innocent man and his nine family members, including seven children.
Ohio Joe
(21,768 posts)I want to hear what he has to say.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)snowybirdie
(5,240 posts)reporting its Alzawari #1in Al Quada Be n Laden's#2.
TheProle
(2,202 posts)underpants
(182,925 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)underpants
(182,925 posts)TheProle
(2,202 posts)He was not a bit player. Folks should read up.
Itchinjim
(3,085 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)Its a BFD.
Celerity
(43,579 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)wasn't capable of organizing a 2-camel caravan - he needed someone that possessed "strategic evil genius", if you will, and Al-Zawahiri brought that.
Celerity
(43,579 posts)you had, in rapid succession, (after the 2nd major (it was a universal call for all Muslims to wage jihad versus the US, Israel, and their proxies, the infamous 'Jews and Crusaders') fatwah of 1998), the 2 massive embassy bombings in 1998 in Kenya and Tanzania, then the USS Cole attack in 2000, and finally, the granddaddy, 9/11. The 1993 WTC attack was not an official al-Qaeda operation.
https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm
Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders
World Islamic Front Statement
23 February 1998
Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin
Ayman al-Zawahiri, amir of the Jihad Group in Egypt
Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Egyptian Islamic Group
Shaykh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan
Fazlur Rahman, amir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh
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No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:
Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation. So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbours.
Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighbouring Arab state, and their endeavour to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.
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The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."
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W_HAMILTON
(7,875 posts)If people wonder why we have such a difficult time winning otherwise winnable elections, look at the Debbie Downers in this thread.
Holy shit, we take down the #1 guy of an organization that orchestrated the worst terrorist attack in our nation's history -- who helped plan 9/11, mind you, we've been after him this entire time -- and you have people basically shitting on Biden and his decision to take this guy out.
Newsflash: if you think this was a bad decision, you need to reevaluate your entire political beliefs, because the vast, vast, VAST majority of Americans absolutely would agree with this decision.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,631 posts)Celerity
(43,579 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,631 posts)liberalguilt57
(89 posts)This is definitely a huge deal! A lot was written about him after the 1998 embassy bombings, and again after 9/11. Ive always thought it was amazing that hes a doctor and a terrorist. He has been on the FBIs most wanted list for decades. I almost cant believe this is happening.
usonian
(9,909 posts)beaglelover
(3,495 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,741 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But I still don't think the extra-judicial execution of anyone is a cause for celebration.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)*Boom*
The get the big *boom*
BootinUp
(47,200 posts)evil videos and there are probably some that were made there and yet to be released.
Also it was a violation of our agreement with the Taliban for him to be there.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And would that rationale extend to anywhere in the United States should Al Qaeda decide to take the battle to us?
BannonsLiver
(16,493 posts)But I do not care.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)We can't go in and do this kind of thing sence we left. And why would we endanger what respect we are working to restore with the world like this? Russia will use this against us to try and justify what they are doing to Ukraine with this.
Biden is smarter than this. Something smells wrong.....
Tarc
(10,476 posts)The Taliban were violating the Doha Agreement by sheltering the most wanted terrorist in the world in Kabul.
They fucked around and found out, and so did Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Are you on the right website?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,631 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,493 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,467 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)While our un-American republican pos are playing golf with the Saudis