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IMHO: Yay for Kansas, but I don't want other people voting on my rights to my own body! (Original Post) lindysalsagal Aug 2022 OP
True, but right now there are only two ways to stop it in its tracks: Ocelot II Aug 2022 #1
They started it ... rustysgurl Aug 2022 #2
For any law to be established or right to be protected Zeitghost Aug 2022 #3
It's Only RobinA Aug 2022 #8
You don't think Zeitghost Aug 2022 #12
I 100% Agree RobinA Aug 2022 #4
Completely agree. Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #5
Same Mad_Machine76 Aug 2022 #6
+1000 Mad_Machine76 Aug 2022 #7
Excellent point. It's insulting. lamp_shade Aug 2022 #9
As my 19 year old daughter said Buckeyeblue Aug 2022 #10
After Dobbs, there is no other way to protect women's rights. TomSlick Aug 2022 #11
DURec leftstreet Aug 2022 #13

Ocelot II

(115,829 posts)
1. True, but right now there are only two ways to stop it in its tracks:
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 12:46 PM
Aug 2022

litigation and voting. And as individuals voting is all we have, so vote we must.

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
2. They started it ...
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:05 PM
Aug 2022

... we Kansans just finished it (for now).

If you have a problem with these votes taking place I suggest you look to your local representatives. You know the ones -- those who stood behind a President and approved Supreme Court justices who took MY rights away. That one act emboldened numerous states and organizations to push for total bans on abortion. So here we are -- frantically trying to maintain the status quo in our state and you complain you don't want other people voting on your rights to your own body? Get over it.

Zeitghost

(3,867 posts)
3. For any law to be established or right to be protected
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:09 PM
Aug 2022

It requires a vote. Votes by the people, votes by a legislature, votes by a panel of judges. It's kind of how we do things.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
8. It's Only
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:20 PM
Aug 2022

"the way we do things" because, as the OP said, it's been normalized. I have a "right" to get an MRI for my knee pain, but do we need a vote to see if knee pain can be subject to an MRI? When was the vote to "allow" men to have a vasectomy, did I miss that? The "abortion debate" is nonsense on a deeper level. No medical decision should be up for a vote by the community.

Zeitghost

(3,867 posts)
12. You don't think
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:34 PM
Aug 2022

The medical industry and the thousands of regulations that govern every part of it have included a few votes along the way by various legislatures and boards?

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
4. I 100% Agree
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:10 PM
Aug 2022

with you and this has always been my position. While I'm glad that states are taking it upon themselves to make sure abortion is available to all women, I deplore that fact that this is in any way, shape, or form a legitimate government issue. People should not be voting on whether someone can have a medical procedure. It's so incredibly wrong. And yep, it's been normalized for quite a long time now. Very few people even question it. In fact, I thought I was the only one that did, so thanks for this post.

Phoenix61

(17,018 posts)
5. Completely agree.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:15 PM
Aug 2022

I’m unclear how my body became something someone else has a vote on. I can’t find anything similar for men.

Mad_Machine76

(24,436 posts)
7. +1000
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:17 PM
Aug 2022

There are some things, some liberties that are so fundamental that they SHOULD NOT be allowed to be voted on. SCOTUS got it right in Roe/Casey. Got it horribly wrong in Dobbs.

TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
11. After Dobbs, there is no other way to protect women's rights.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:28 PM
Aug 2022

In most cases, the vote will be in elections for state legislatures. Women's rights must be an issue in state legislature elections. If the forced birth side elects state legislatures, woman will have no rights to bodily autonomy.

This is not the way things should be but it is the way things are after Dobbs.

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