Unless Erdogan stops his insane demands (like us extraditing Parliament members) no Sweden in NATO

[Celerity]

The 2023 Turkish general election will be held on 18 June 2023. Presidential elections are held to elect the President of Turkey using a two-round system. Erdogan is using us and Finland as leverage for this, so he has little reason to not draw this out for ages.



Kurds in Sweden fear becoming pawns in NATO membership bid (video)

Kurds living in Sweden are concerned over an agreement reached between the Swedish and Finnish governments and Turkey, which has threatened to block the two countries from joining NATO over their alleged harboring of Kurdish militants.

https://www.dw.com/en/kurds-in-sweden-fear-becoming-pawns-in-nato-membership-bid/av-62521597

[Lovie777]

1. Erdogan hates the Kurds ......

like Putin hates the Ukrainians.

So much death . . . what can men do against such reckless hate?

LOTRINGS "Battle of Helms Deep"

[ashredux]

2. Simple, kick hungry out of NATO and add Sweden ....Sweden has a much better military

[Celerity]

3. sea access to the Black Sea's HUGE (Turkey 100% controls it via the the Dardanelles & the Bosphorus

[Celerity]

4. also, what does Hungary have to do with this?

[ashredux]

5. Well, I was being somewhat Facetious. Hungry is holding up adding Sweden for no good reason

[Celerity]

6. besides you now misspelling Hungary multiple times, it is TURKEY that we are are talking about in

terms of being the most serious blocker of Sweden and Finland joining NATO.

Viktor Orbán (Hungary) could still try and play blocking games (for instance, Hungary was the lone objector blocking the establishment of a Center for Democratic Resilience within NATO) as well, but kicking Hungary (who are also, unlike Turkey, an EU member) out of NATO is certainly not going to make Erdoğan and Turkey fall in line. In fact it might have the exact opposite effect.

[ashredux]

7. A bit touchy this am I see....maybe you missed the part about being facetious

Just in case you need this

Definition of facetious
1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately : WAGGISH
just being facetious
2 : meant to be humorous or funny : not serious
a facetious remark

[Celerity]

10. I am not 'touchy'. That seems a rather spurious claim when this colloquy is used as the basis for

making it.

[mitch96]

8. Erdogan wants something and is using it as leverage.. What does he want besides the

Kurd cleric living in the US??
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[PortTack]

9. He does...no doubt NATO will give him what he wants or at least part of it

Endogan isn’t the first ass hat to demand something of NATO for their vote over the years

[Johnny2X2X]

11. It's a 2 way street

Turkey can suffer consequences too if they keep pressing.