About Jone's phone

[dclarston13]

The whole thing is getting viewed as a big mess up. But what if his lawyers saw something so heinous on the phone that the could not let it go and decided to let the evidence reach the right hands.

[hlthe2b]

1. That has occurred to me too.

They are representing a monster. At some point, conscience must kick in for the non-sociopathic.

[FakeNoose]

25. I bet you're right about this

Maybe they know that Jones is never going to pay their attorney's fees anyway. Might as well screw him while they have the chance.

The jury is going to deliberate for all of 5 minutes. Stick a fork in him - he's done!

[Irish_Dem]

2. Yes. No way it was attorney "error." They handed the phone over to opposing counsel.

If this was a movie it would be the shocking ending.

[LastDemocratInSC]

6. There are occasions when a defense attorney must report crimes committed by his client

https://www.justia.com/criminal/working-with-a-criminal-lawyer/the-crime-fraud-exception/#:~:text=An%20attorney%20may%20be%20required%20by%20state%20ethical,threat%20by%20their%20client%20to%20harm%20someone%20else.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Exactly, they could not sit on serious crimes.

Child porn was the last straw with an asshole of a client.

[duckworth969]

30. Spot on

[3Hotdogs]

9. If that was the motive, there is/was a proper way to proceed. Begin by, "May we approach the bench?"

Followed by a request to withdraw from the trial.


Jones is a piece of shit.

BUT

would you hire his lawyers for anything but a traffic ticket after that fiasco? Their career is over.

[Beakybird]

3. It might have been the child pornography.

[thucythucy]

5. My thought as well.

They evidently notified the FBI as well.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Exactly. They hated him anyway, and the child porn was the last straw.

[pnwest]

12. There was child porn on the phone?

[Beakybird]

13. I've read reports of this here at DU

[zuul]

15. The porn was just spam sent to Jones' phone.

I read yesterday that he never read any of them. So this is nothing. Unfortunately.

[Nevilledog]

26. You ever had actual child porn sent to your phone?

[Celerity]

33. in 2019 NBC reported that the Jones was in possession of child pornography and that counsel had

alerted the FBI. “The FBI advised counsel that its review located numerous additional illegal images, which had apparently been sent to Infowars email address,” the filing says. In response, InfoWars claimed that the pictures were part of a “malware attack attempting to embed” child porn on Jones’ servers.

The phone is thought to shed light on that incident or other illegal activities perpetrated by Jones. “You know what nobody’s thought about yet?” an attorney for the parents was caught saying on a hot mic. “What happens when that phone goes to law enforcement?”

Update: More information about the digital copy of the cell phone has come to light. The document was apparently unintentionally uploaded into a shared Dropbox. At that time, the lawyer for the parents contacted lawyers for Alex Jones, but the latter never responded. According to Texas law, in such situations you must give the opposing party ten days to respond. After the period was over, the parents’ team opened the file and saw two years of records from Jones’ phone. The texts and emails include the dates of the 2020 election and January 6th insurrection, and since Jones is an influential figure in conservative circles, it could shed light on the behind-the-scenes efforts to coordinate sedition.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/law-order-writer-says-alex-195325810.html

[Nevilledog]

36. I know where the report came from.

I'm saying I'm not really convinced about how the child porn got there.

InfoWars story on how they got there does not carry a lot of weight with me.

[allegorical oracle]

35. LoL -- well, if Alex said he didn't peek at porn, it must be true...

[MrsCoffee]

4. Jones's.

It could be either. A massive fuck up or a massive fuck you to Jones.

Given the quality of lawyers those in lalaland hire these days, it’s easier to believe it was a massive fuckup. Or maybe it was yet another attempt to provoke a mistrial.

I’d like to believe that someone had some morals and turned on him, but I’m not that optimistic these days.

[dclarston13]

14. I had not thought about the mistrial aspect

Tough way to go about it though, a bit hard on the career.

[zanana1]

18. I agree with the mistrial idea.

There's no way Jones' lawyers would mess up that badly.

[Comfortably_Numb]

10. Maybe the attorney didn't want to suborn perjury. Skid mark lied under oath. Full stop.

[thucythucy]

21. That's my thought as well.

Someone finally looked at the content and said, "Oh fuck, the asshole perjured himself! We can't sit on this!"

I also would have thought they would first approach the judge, and for all we know maybe they did.

But would his attorney be required to tell Jones about this? I'm not an attorney so I don't know.

Not that it would have made any difference, The questions would have been much the same, and the evidence of perjury would still be there, even if Jones had been warned beforehand. I think all that would have happened is that he'd have had some time to prepare better bullshit.

[LunaSea]

11. Gonna need a lot more popcorn

[Talitha]

29. Love it - thanks for sharing this!

[Scottie Mom]

37. Perfect! Love it!

I may have a bumper sticker made!!!!

[Mike_in_LA]

16. I strongly doubt it

Without knowing the process or the rules:

1) Doing that would be blatant cause for disbarrment and possibly even sanctions or changes

2) this level of negligence alone could be cause for disbarrment.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on either or both.

[WA-03 Democrat]

17. I found it interesting how Jones'

Lawyer asked him on redirect if he turn over evidence and that his attorney just forwarded it to the court. That was like them backing the bus up over him and hitting it again. They knew what they did. They got them to admit it was his and that his lawyers were just doing their job to pass it over.

[kentuck]

19. Or...

The really damaging text messages were deleted?

They did not give them everything?

It could be a scam.

[H2O Man]

20. Jones' lawyer

knew that if he objected to it, the judge would have allowed everything except communications between Jones and him in.

[obamanut2012]

22. Jones' or Jones's

[ARandomPerson]

32. Both

That was my first question too.

I looked it up:

https://grammarhow.com/jones-or-joness-possessive/

Some people use the one, others use the other.

[Disaffected]

23. Cool.

And I'm jonesing for a lot more.

[gibraltar72]

24. Said that to my wife this morning.

He apparently had ten days to undo it, but didn't. Either a courageous act which he can't take credit for. Or a colossal screwup.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

27. There was a hearing on protective order this morning

Link to tweet

[Hamlette]

34. if what the defense attorney said is true, the Plaintiff is in the wrong.

it happens. It even happened when we did it all by hard copy but with computers it happens more often. An attorney is considered to be an officer of the court and must return the information and not use it.

The Plaintiff's attorney said yesterday that he notified the defense and defense did not respond. Now defense is saying he did respond. The judge will have to decide.

[Novara]

28. I would think an attorney would want to protect their reputation ...

... and this was simply a fuckup by incompetent attorneys. If they wanted to report illegal activity discovered on the phone, there are much, much better ways of doing that without risking your reputation as a complete fuckup.

Come on, we know assholes like Jones are probably way too cheap to hire decent lawyers.

[Hamlette]

31. no, there are things a lawyer could do it that instance, giving it to the other side is not is not

one of them. He'd be disbarred immediately. He still might be.

[Evergreen Emerald]

38. It was not actually the lawyers who sent it to the other side

It was the legal assistant who did it in error. This is what was stated in court. The lawyer for Jones however did not follow proper procedure to get it returned and secured.