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Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 10:14 AM Aug 2022

There will be an old/new roadblock coming our way, just in time for the Midterms

The Media

We know about Fox. They are what they are.

MSNBC likes to sound lefty but NBC calls the shots and even your favorite host has to toe a line. Wooing :cough: moderate :cough: GOP types and retaining the likes of Andrea Mitchell and Chick Toad.

And then there's CNN (reported here on DU in a number of posts by others) who, with their new leader, openly making clear their interest is having significant GOP representation on their network. They may even go so far as removing the likes of Don Lemon and Brianna Keilar from their programming.

We're going to have to find a way to overcome this latest speed bump.

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There will be an old/new roadblock coming our way, just in time for the Midterms (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Aug 2022 OP
Why don't we double down, like they do? We could use a couple new lefty networks. Meadowoak Aug 2022 #1
good luck with that rurallib Aug 2022 #3
I mean BIG networks something to rival CNN or MSNBC. Meadowoak Aug 2022 #5
I could go on and on about liberals and media rurallib Aug 2022 #10
+1 Meadowoak Aug 2022 #11
Gotta have two horses in the race underpants Aug 2022 #2
You got that right mcar Aug 2022 #4
Simple..DON'T WATCH! PortTack Aug 2022 #6
I wont be watching. I will be knocking on doors, making calls and writing post cards. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #7
"Our" media outlets are still mostly corporate media. hay rick Aug 2022 #8
when pres. Reagan llashram Aug 2022 #9
Conglomeration overruled competition with each GOP administration ... Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #12

Meadowoak

(5,560 posts)
1. Why don't we double down, like they do? We could use a couple new lefty networks.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 10:26 AM
Aug 2022

Surely there's plenty of advertising dollars to be made there. We are over half of the population, yet we have almost no media representation.

Meadowoak

(5,560 posts)
5. I mean BIG networks something to rival CNN or MSNBC.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:05 AM
Aug 2022

Like I said, we are more than half of the population and we only have MSNBC, and I would call that moderate at best. CNN, in my opinion is too conservative. And the other problem is accessibility, FOX is on any stript down most basic cable package, while in order to get MSNBC, you'll need an upgraded package. Many people never even heard of it.

rurallib

(62,451 posts)
10. I could go on and on about liberals and media
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:24 PM
Aug 2022

Since news became a profit center for media back in the Reagan days, liberals have been pretty much shut out. Right now the only small beacon of light that liberals have is Free Speech TV. As you note it is small. If they had funding (they live on donations) they could probably greatly expand their reach.

Al Gore had a presence that he sold. No liberals stepped up to buy it.

As far as some network going liberal, I highly doubt it. I always suspect MSNBC is day to day as far as being somewhat lefty. When you look at their hosts and commenters, it is not exactly a liberal bastion. Andrea Mitchell, Joe Scarboro, Michael Steele. Chuck Todd. Most every panel has at least one 'republican' of some stripe.

Couple of things:
1) Advertisers of the kind of size needed won't advertise on liberal programs. You can get some local liberal advertisers in a market like Chicago or Minneapolis, but not nationally. They won't advertise on a station that might be attacking them after their commercial

2) The few times liberals did venture into media they botched it pretty badly. Air America being the prime example. I have no idea why but liberal business people do not look at media as a good venture.

I tried to get some folks interested in liberal media in the early 2000 and ran into some really unexpected opposition from unions, politicians and others who I thought would be interested.

BTW I do watch and donate to Free Speech TV. Let me also give a shoutout to WCPT radio in Chicago and KTNF radio in Minneapolis. Great liberal radio stations.

mcar

(42,376 posts)
4. You got that right
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

I expect a migrant caravan at the border or one of the GOP's old standards.

CNN was in full tsk, tsk mode this morning (the few minutes I listened) about MI Dems supporting Meijer's primary opponent. Host was interviewing Buttigieg and, when Pete wouldn't respond to the question, said something like, 'well, I'm sure if you could, you'd agree it's disgusting.'

hay rick

(7,643 posts)
8. "Our" media outlets are still mostly corporate media.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:12 PM
Aug 2022

Their interests diverge from ours on many issues. The rampant both sideism is a clear signal that maintaining a privileged position is more important to them than fighting authoritarianism.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
9. when pres. Reagan
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:20 PM
Aug 2022

hit the ground running this star of the screen had them fawning, drooling and falling all over themselves to present that racist dog as some kind of moderate and it's only gone downhill since then in our media circus-infotainment propaganda disguised as journalism.

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