eli lilly tells indiana to go F themselves

[moonshinegnomie]

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=kN1AtJhpcsKBd-ifOI9MAQ

[Nevilledog]

1. Good.

[duckworth969]

7. +1

[onecaliberal]

2. More of this.

[duckworth969]

9. More IN corporations might follow...

Maybe “Big Daddy” Cummins in Columbus?

Sizable brain trust in that company.

[moonshinegnomie]

11. a couple of other big health care companies in indiana

guidant,zimmer biomet and anthem healthcare

[onecaliberal]

14. I wouldn't work for a company who didn't value me as a human being.

With my own brain.

[Indykatie]

46. I worked at Cummins for 20 Years in the Comp & Ben Division Before Retiring

Cummins has a long history as a forward thinking progressive company. We were the first in Indiana to provide full benefits for same sex partners. We had people protesting in the town square that were bussed in from other states. Our CEO and Board basically said "eff off" to all the detractors. We have had a travel benefit for when a person has to travel more than 30 miles for medical treatment for at least 8 years. The company considers abortion and sexual reassignment surgery the same as any other medical procedure. I'm sure there will be other actions beyond the lobbying at the state house to try and impact the decision. It's hard enough for the company to recruit college graduates to come work at a Corporate office in a small Southern Indiana town. This Abortion decision will impact recruiting and retention for companies. The new Cummins CEO is a woman but the male CEO who just left was also very progressive.

[GoodRaisin]

3. Been expecting these kinds of announcements to start in the Taliban states

and looking for the medical industry to be close behind.

[onecaliberal]

15. I hope they're punished big time.

When those cities and states lose the tax revenue and jobs from those companies they’ll have no one to blame but their extreme ass selves.

[COL Mustard]

27. Their governors and legislators will just write it off

To "woke" companies that have been taken over by leftist globalists. Any other adjectives I missed?

[meadowlander]

51. They'll blame job losses on immigrants

because they know their base doesn't understand cause and effect and is too intellectually lazy to put 2 and 2 together.

[Trueblue Texan]

70. But voters won't.

When their jobs disappear across state lines they’ll know who to blame.

[Missn-Hitch]

80. Yep. The Democrats.

Wash, rinse and repeat.

[allegorical oracle]

4. Now THAT's a kick in the 'nads. It's about the only to get thru to Repugs. nt

[erronis]

48. mtg and boebert - 'nad wannabes

[TheBlackAdder]

5. Watch, Holcomb will try and emulate DeathSantis and find ways to punish the company.

[Norbert]

12. Go ahead.

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Unlike Disney, Lilly needs no specific warm climate to operate.

[NCjack]

16. Yeap. The if the Repugs attack EL, watch the company accelerate its disinvestment in Indiana.

[roamer65]

32. Yes, they will start to eye southern MI...IMO.

Probably Kalamazoo or Ann Arbor. Upjohn and Parke Davis used to be here.

There are distinct benefits for a pharma company being next to a research university like U of M.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Equitable, prosperous states vs shithole impoverished states on steroids now.

Fractured States of America.

[roamer65]

30. Shades of 1860.

[Irish_Dem]

41. The Putin GOP is balkanizing the US states along old Confederate lines.

"Dividing a region or body into smaller mutually hostile states or groups."

The old Roman divide and conquer strategy straight from CIA/KGB handbooks.

[roamer65]

56. Yup.

Bingo.

[Irish_Dem]

72. Putin is doing the same thing to the US that happened to the old USSR.

Smashed up into pieces.

[Crunchy Frog]

81. The USSR was multiple, diverse, different nations

forced together under totalitarian rule. It was never going to stay together if people had a choice.

Not comparable to the US.

[Irish_Dem]

83. The US is diverse, different cultures, values, norms, traditions.

The GOP is taking our differences to the extreme and creating the deep division.

We are being balkanized in real time.

[Crunchy Frog]

84. The US has a lot of diversity, and yes, it's being balkanized, but

it would be a false equivalence to say that it was similar to the USSR, or even the current Russian Federation.

There were whole different countries as diverse as advanced Northern European Baltic states, Central Asian Muslim countries, ancient countries like Georgia and Armenia in the Caucasus. Different languages, different language families, and different writing systems. And that's just the official republics. There were many other smaller nations like Chechnya, where Russia fought two major wars in the 90's and early 2000's.

Definitely an apples and oranges comparison, without diminishing the very real divisions within our own country.

[moonshinegnomie]

8. ob/gyns dont want to work in red states either

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/08/06/abortion-maternity-health-obgyn/

[GoodRaisin]

40. Expect a mass exodus of Dr.'s.

They don’t want to be compromised with this.

[Hekate]

10. KnR

[Lonestarblue]

13. Like most red states, Indiana is a taker state. Can the federal government change that?

Being a taker state means that the state receives more in federal funding than its citizens pay in federal income taxes, which means that blue states are subsidizing the deliberate tax policies of red states, which keep their state income taxes low (mostly for the rich) so they will get more federal funding. Does anyone know what law provides for this inequitable distribution of federal funds? And can it be changed?

If red states are denying rights to women, is federal funding one way to punish them, without of course punishing the poor who rely on federal support for Medicaid and other programs? I’m thinking more of discretionary state programs, such as transportation. Another option might be to move military bases out of anti-abortion states because female members cannot get the healthcare they need.

I know none of this is likely, but Republicans use every lever of government they can to take advantage while Democrats just try to be fair to everyone. While I live in Texas now, which is also a taker state, I’ve mostly lived in blue states in the past and I do not see why the people in those states should be subsidizing Republican policies, especially those that deliberately hurt people.

[Phoenix61]

26. Access to health care is a consideration for BRAC.

Throw in care for transgender children being illegal, which passed in Florida, and they can wave bye-bye to the base.

[moonshinegnomie]

45. if love to see biden announce hes closing ft hood and joint base sana ntonio for starters

move all military bases out of texas...

[Phoenix61]

47. I'd like to see McDill close first.

Have them say it’s due to the abortion and transgender bs.

[Lonestarblue]

75. Fort Hood should probably be closed for other reasons.

It has a history of sexual assault and even murder. I haven’t heard of anything, but past commanders there seemed to buy into the Texas attitude that boys will be boys and no harm done with a few rapes. Fort Hood was the site of the murder of Vanessa Guillen, who was bludgeoned to death by a fellow soldier in 2020.

Ft. Hood should have been closed in 2020 when it had 16 deaths. The base had the highest number of soldier murders and sexual assault cases among all Army bases. The base commander was replaced, but in 2022 more sexual assaults were reported, and studies found that women soldiers there face more risk of sexual assault than any other Army base.

[jaxexpat]

36. Sounds like you're trying to thread a needle with a backhoe. I like it!

Stand back seamsters, we're gonna dig here.


Something about omelets and broken eggs. Who knew it was political?

[erronis]

49. Great visual metaphor and added aphorisms.

They would know why it happened, deep down, but something like a BRAC is purely bureaucratic - right?

[Farmer-Rick]

73. I was wondering what a "taker" state was

Good explanation.

This is the reason these states will Never secede from the Union. When the last civil war occurred, the seceding states had almost separate economies from the North. There was no redistribution of income taxes because there was no income tax.

Income tax started during the Civil War to pay for the war debts. Just another thing we can thank the South for.

[msfiddlestix]

74. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ I don't have the answer to your question. It has perplexed me as well.

I live in California and learned this about twenty years ago... it's both baffling and infuriating.

[rurallib]

17. sporting events, especially NCAA women's events

should make it known they are looking to other venues.
Big ten women's basketball comes immediately to mind.

[dalton99a]

19. +1. There should be boycotts of sports events

[moonshinegnomie]

22. id like to see all ncaa teams refuse to play in indiana

imagine if no football team would want to play at notre dame..

[Sky Jewels]

31. I imagine most racecar drivers are right wing,

but it would be nice if there were a couple prominent ones who would boycott the Indianapolis 500. I won't hold my breath though.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

44. The sponsors might lean on the drivers. That 'Brandon' guy in NASCAR lost all his.

[JPPaverage]

53. The Indianapolis 500 isn't nascar

And it will never ever be canceled outside of a pandemic.

[Sky Jewels]

67. I know, but

I had a thought that a few drivers could sit it out. Probably not, though.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

18. To states that want to live in the stone age just go ahead and do it 100%.

Take them back to dirt roads, coal oil lamps for lighting and leaches for medical cures.


KY......

[roamer65]

20. Come to Michigan!!!!

Great Lakes, great times!

[rurallib]

24. home of Jim (the Neanderthal) Harbaugh

[roamer65]

28. Football coaches don't set public policy.

That will be blatantly evident when we overwhelmingly pass our Reproductive Freedom for All ballot proposal in November.

If Jimmy don’t like it, he can leave.

[rurallib]

42. I know that, but as fan of another Big !0 team

I simply could not miss an opportunity to snark Harbaugh.

[roamer65]

55. LOL.

Betcha it’s that place down southeast of Toledo.

[rurallib]

57. A little east of Des Moines

not too fond of that team Southeast of Toledo either

[moonshinegnomie]

58. 2 words

ON WISCONSIN

[rurallib]

59. !

good luck!

[roamer65]

60. Ah a Hawkeye.

[rurallib]

61. 'Tis true - born and raised

spent a portion of my wasted youth haunting the stadium........

[moonshinegnomie]

62. i probably shouldnt comment on what IOWA stands for.........

[rurallib]

63. good discretion. Thank you

[roamer65]

64. In Omaha Without Authorization.

That was the nicer one told to me by a Huskers fan I know.

[roamer65]

65. ..

Kinnick Stadium is a tough place to win in.

[Mad_Machine76]

21. This is great

but I don't think that they were saying much until the law already had been passed, in which case, thanks for not much.

[mucifer]

23. just remember eil lilly makes insulin so they are screwing diabetics with their

price gauging.

[multigraincracker]

25. Kick them in the wallet and say you are moving operations

to Kansas. Ouch.

[kairos12]

29. They will probably get some version of the treatment Deathsantis gave Disney.

[EnergizedLib]

33. I'm ashamed to be here

Thanks a lot, Indiana. I’ll be moving back to Illinois someday partly because of how you run things.

[jaxexpat]

34. Can't be said often enough nor understated .......

Indianapolis loves Eli Lily a whole bunch more than Jebus and his minions. Today, Mike Pence is persona non grata, for sure, in places where serious Indianinanians hang out.

In fact, shhh, over here...you want a hot tip? (buy up all the high end T.P. you can find in central Indiana) Everybody between Carmel and Greenwood/Ohio and Illinois, people with IRA's which they hope will keep them warm by the fire in their old age just broke out with explosive nervous diarrhea.

This is a critical golden goose jumps ship moment for Hoosierland.

[Tommymac]

35. NCAA HAS to stop using Indianapolis as a Championship Site. And they need to move their HQ too.

It would be unconscionable to hold a basketball championship in the Hosier Dome, in fact anywhere in the state of Indiana.

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2021/2/10/about-who-we-are-contact-us.aspx
Contacting The NCAA
National Office
The National Collegiate Athletic Association
700 W. Washington Street
P.O. Box 6222
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6222
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

In fact, the NCAA should be looking to move their HQ to another state ASAP.

[roamer65]

66. Ford Field in Detroit would be a better place.

[Delphinus]

37. Someone pointed

out on a different tweet that Lilly still gives to the GOP. They should cut that out too.

[Bluethroughu]

38. Boom, that's how you do it!

[moonshinegnomie]

39. id like to see lilly announce they're moving across the border to illinois

[Wonder Why]

43. I'm not so sure Eli Lilly is as good as some think

They don't say they are moving any operations to another state

They don't say they will not hire more employees in Indiana

They are only "planning" their growth outside Indiana, not necessarily actually doing it.

They gain a lot from Republicans who believe it's okay for them to rip off Americans on drug pricing and a few bucks spent on campaigns for those Republican candidates along with paying for "issue ads" that don't "directly contribute" to those same Republicans. The same sleazes they elected now vote against ONE of their professed interests.

They don't say anything about right and wrong - just that it will make it hard for them to hire and retain some people (i.e. women who care about the issue). Not all women support that view as witnessed by the women in power who don't or who won't speak against their fellow right wingers.

The question is whether their stated concern is real or just a temporary thing until the next election or even possibly being undermined by private statements that "we really don't believe that but it makes for good political capital so don't worry about our support of the right".

I must be from Missouri

[FakeNoose]

50. If Eli Lilly had said this, it might have meant something

"We're out of here. We're closing all of our plants and laying everyone off by the end of the year."

But they didn't say that, did they?

[BumRushDaShow]

54. Note this (from this past January)

News Release
Lilly announces $1 billion investment in new manufacturing facility in North Carolina
January 28, 2022

Parenteral and device manufacturing site will increase the number of people around the world who may benefit from Lilly's medicines

INDIANAPOLIS, Jan. 28, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- Eli Lilly and Company (NYSE: LLY) plans to invest over $1 billion to create a new manufacturing site, along with nearly 600 new jobs in Concord, North Carolina. The brand-new facility will utilize the latest technology to manufacture parenteral (injectable) products and devices and increase the company's manufacturing capacity.

"Lilly is entering an exciting period of growth and we are committed to delivering innovative medicines to patients around the world," said Edgardo Hernandez, senior vice president and president, Lilly Manufacturing Operations. "Expanding our manufacturing footprint in North Carolina enables us to continue to produce today's medicines while providing additional capacity to manufacture the medicines of tomorrow. We are pleased to again partner with North Carolina to bring jobs to American workers and provide more medicines that patients need to address health challenges."

Lilly selected Concord because of the manufacturing technology experience of the local labor force; its proximity to universities with strong science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) programs; and its access to major transportation infrastructure. In 2020, Lilly announced a $470 million investment in North Carolina's Research Triangle Park. In conjunction with this site, the new facility in Concord will allow the company to strengthen relationships with local governments and universities and diversify its growing presence in the state.

Lilly plans to create nearly 600 new jobs for highly skilled workers such as scientists, engineers and manufacturing personnel, who will use advanced technology to produce life-changing treatments and devices to make life better for people around the world. In addition, an estimated 500 additional positions will be required while the facility is under construction.

"Lilly's choice brings more good jobs to North Carolina from one of our most important industries," said North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper. "North Carolina has become a premier hub for the world, thanks to our exceptional workforce and commitment to education."

Over the last five years, Lilly has invested over $4 billion in global manufacturing, including more than $2 billion in the U.S. The company also today announced plans to invest $500 million in a new biopharmaceutical manufacturing facility in Limerick, Ireland. Lilly anticipates additional future investments in manufacturing to address growth expected from potential new medicines to treat diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, cancer and autoimmune conditions.

(snip)


https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lilly-announces-1-billion-investment-new-manufacturing-facility

This was before the overturn of Roe (and the leak) but the shift has already been underway and what happened in IN may end up "accelerating" any future plans.

(and despite having a GOP legislature, NC does have a (D) governor and abortion is still legal there)

[sellitman]

52. Maybe these big companies

should stop funding the GOP altogether?

Just a thought?

[KS Toronado]

68. Hey Eli Lilly, it's still legal in Kansas

Lots of talent in the Wichita area.

[ZonkerHarris]

69. CA should make a big push for Lilly to move the whole HQ there.

[Rhiannon12866]

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[NQAS]

76. The next step

Leave Indiana.

Maybe this would be like Coke leaving Atlanta.

Or it could be like Boeing leaving Washington.

If the will is there, it can be done. And what a signal that would send!

[Zambero]

77. The decline of red state America

Ignorance is not bliss. It might seem like good politics to keep people ignorant and angry. After all, that is how autocrats attempt to control people. However, at the end of the day, there are very real consequences for imposing theocracy where freedom of choice and a right to privacy once existed. Companies that intend to attract a diverse array of skills and talent are not served well by repressive state-level policies. Hopefully, this statement by Eli Lilly will be received as a shot across the bow by Republicans who saw the Roe repeal as a green light to f*** over their constituents.

[Liberty Belle]

78. Good, but Eli Lilly was the maker of DES, a drug that harmed many women and their daughters.

It was prescribed in the 1950s to prevent miscarriages, only it didn't work and worse, it caused cancers in women and their daughters, possibly even granddaughters. Some daughters were born with a deformed uterus and could not have children. My Mom took it, after a prior miscarriage, but I was lucky to escape its harmful eeffects:
https://desaction.org/what-is-des/

Still it's good to see Eli Lilly of all companies finally doing something good for women. I hope many more take companies take similar stands - financial pressure and job losses may be the fastest way to get states with the worst restrictions to back down and repeal them. Money talks when jobs walk.

[Joinfortmill]

79. Good

[caraher]

82. This is how the private sector derailed Mike Pence's IN career

When Pence pushed the "Religious Freedom Restoration Act" at the state level (aka greenlighting homophobic discrimination) what got that shut down was corporate pushback. They knew they couldn't recruit talent to a Christian Taliban state, and Pence and allies retreated in disgrace, Pence losing face with his Christofascist base. Trump rescued him from political irrelevance by naming him as running mate.

This is just the beginning...