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Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:00 PM Aug 2022

In 1993, Bill Clinton fired the FBI Director on recommendation of AG Janet Reno



In July 1993, President Bill Clinton dismissed William Sessions as FBI Director after allegations were made that Sessions used government resources for personal travel and that leadership conflicts existed within the Bureau. Attorney General Janet Reno recommended the dismissal.

And so we need to ask what Merrick Garland thinks of Christopher Wray and his confession that there was no legitimate investigation into the tips sent to the FBI regarding sexual misconduct by Brett Kavanaugh, and that the FBI Director Wray took instruction from the sexual predator in the White House as to disposition of the tips.

?

What say you, Mr. Attorney General?
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In 1993, Bill Clinton fired the FBI Director on recommendation of AG Janet Reno (Original Post) Grasswire2 Aug 2022 OP
Good question. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #1
You're misrepresenting what Dir Wray testified to on questioning underthematrix Aug 2022 #2
I don't think Senator Whitehouse sees it that way. Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #3
I would hope Timewas Aug 2022 #4
If Garland feels no obligation to investigate certain illegal activities (apparently).. Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #5
Hope that is not how it works Timewas Aug 2022 #6
see this Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #7
Have seen that Timewas Aug 2022 #8
Frank Figliuzzi explained it this way: Wray operated within the rules of his job & if you want... Hekate Aug 2022 #9
where did Frank say that? Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #10
Deadline Whitehouse, Friday. He said, "If I look weary, it's because I have to keep explaining it" Hekate Aug 2022 #22
The point here is to find something new to blame Garland for... Ohio Joe Aug 2022 #11
The point here is for our premier law enforcement agency to identify criminal behavior... Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #14
See Post #9... Ohio Joe Aug 2022 #17
The FBI did LEAGALLY that the were supose to do, maybe Congress should change the rules krawhitham Aug 2022 #12
what are the rules? Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #13
The partial transcript of the exchange between Whitehouse and Wray is available at snopes Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #18
Biden doesn't know what's going on and needs to be told what to do? Kaleva Aug 2022 #15
we assume so Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #16
They may have already discussed it and Biden decided to keep Wray Kaleva Aug 2022 #20
The FBI wasn't ALLOWED to do a full investigation. Takket Aug 2022 #19
The one that took over sucked . I would like to see Liz Cheney as FBI director JI7 Aug 2022 #21

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
2. You're misrepresenting what Dir Wray testified to on questioning
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:13 PM
Aug 2022

from Sen. Whitehouse.
Dir. Wray said what he's said before. The customer for the background check was the WH. As with other White Houses, the background check is done consistent with the customer's preferences. The customer, a criminal enterprise received the evidence or tips and did not direct the FBI to do anything with them. The White House was in control of the process.

Since every system agency organization Trump had control over he corrupted with the exception of the DOJ (because they pushed back very very hard) I assume the federal judiciary has been corrupted too. I imagine all six members of the #SupremeStench plus one retired SCOTUS justice are targets of a federal grand jury.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
3. I don't think Senator Whitehouse sees it that way.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:16 PM
Aug 2022

...that FBI had no authority to react to any of the tips.

Timewas

(2,196 posts)
4. I would hope
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:51 PM
Aug 2022

That the FBI and any other law enforcement agency has the ability and wherewithal to investigate any and all illegal activity that it encounters regardless of the political ramifications.... But then maybe I am naive in my beliefs of our entire system...

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
5. If Garland feels no obligation to investigate certain illegal activities (apparently)..
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:56 PM
Aug 2022

..then perhaps the FBI is also unencumbered, subject to the particular whims and preferences of the top official.

Timewas

(2,196 posts)
6. Hope that is not how it works
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 04:06 PM
Aug 2022

They should be obligated under their oath of office to investigate regardless of political influence...

Timewas

(2,196 posts)
8. Have seen that
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 04:45 PM
Aug 2022

I know the system, pretty much in its entirety is corrupt and partisan as hell. Needs to be rebuilt from the bottom with a more independent structure.

Never going to happen and makes our entire system weak and corrupt in many ways..

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
9. Frank Figliuzzi explained it this way: Wray operated within the rules of his job & if you want...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:10 PM
Aug 2022

Frank Figliuzzi explained it this way: Wray operated within the rules of his job & if you want a different outcome, change the rules.

In the simplest terms, change the man’s job description, because he is not at fault for this.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
10. where did Frank say that?
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:21 PM
Aug 2022

and he is an institutionalist. Good person, but still an institutionalist.

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
11. The point here is to find something new to blame Garland for...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:24 PM
Aug 2022

Not to object to Wray or fix anything.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
14. The point here is for our premier law enforcement agency to identify criminal behavior...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:49 PM
Aug 2022

...and for the Department of Justice to follow the evidence and prosecute where it leads.

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
17. See Post #9...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 06:01 PM
Aug 2022

Oh wait... You did and poo-poo'd it. But now you are not... So... Yeah, just looking for something to blame Garland for.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. what are the rules?
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:47 PM
Aug 2022

Senator Whitehouse doesn't think the "investigation" was conducted properly.

Maybe you can tell us what these rules are.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
18. The partial transcript of the exchange between Whitehouse and Wray is available at snopes
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 06:02 PM
Aug 2022

[link:https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/04/fbi-kavanaugh-wray-whitehouse/|


Whitehouse: As you know, we are now entering the fourth year of a frustrating saga that began with an August 2019 letter from me and Sen. Coons, regarding the Kavanaugh supplemental background investigation. And I’d like to try to get that matter wrapped up.

First, is it true that after Kavanaugh-related tips were separated from regular tipline traffic, they were forwarded to White House counsel without investigation?

Wray: I apologize in advance that it has been frustrating for you. We have tried to be clear in our process. So when it comes to the tipline, we wanted to make sure that the White House had all the information we have, so when the hundreds of calls start coming in, we gathered those up, reviewed them and provided them to the White House…

Whitehouse: Without investigation?

(long pause)

Wray: We reviewed them and then provided them to…

Whitehouse: You reviewed them for purposes of separating them from tipline traffic, but did not further investigate the ones that related to Kavanaugh, correct?

Wray: Correct.

Whitehouse: Is it also true that, in that supplemental BI, the FBI took direction from the White House as to whom the FBI would question and even what questions the FBI would ask?

Wray: So, it is true that, consistent with the longstanding process that we have had going all the way back to at least the Bush administration, the Obama administration, the Trump administration, and continue to follow currently under the Biden administration, that in a limited supplemental BI, we take direction from the requesting entity, which in this case was the White House, as to what followup they want. That’s the direction we’ve followed. That’s the direction we’ve consistently followed throughout the decades, frankly. You asked specifically about “who” and “what”?

Whitehouse: Yeah. Is it true?

Wray: It is true as to the “who.” I’m not sure as I sit here whether it’s also true as to the “what questions,” but it is true as to the “who” we interviewed.

Near the end of Whitehouse’s line of questioning, he requested that Wray provide responses to letters that he and other Democratic members of the U.S. Senate sent to the FBI. He asked for answers to be sent back by the FBI within 30 days. Wray indicated he would attempt to make that happen, notwithstanding any unforeseen roadblocks.

Whitehouse also added, “There’s a point at which this simply has to come to an end. This has been years and years of unanswered questions.”

Kaleva

(36,335 posts)
15. Biden doesn't know what's going on and needs to be told what to do?
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:52 PM
Aug 2022

Couldn't Biden ask Garland for his opinion and then make a decision?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
16. we assume so
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 05:59 PM
Aug 2022

Just as Bill Clinton did with AG Janet Reno. She recommended that he fire FBI Director Sessions, and he did.

Takket

(21,620 posts)
19. The FBI wasn't ALLOWED to do a full investigation.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 06:07 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/what-will-fbi-investigation-kavanaugh-entail-n914966

President Trump on Friday ordered the FBI to investigate Christine Blasey Ford’s sexual assault accusation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh — but what does that mean, exactly?

Trump said the probe "must be limited in scope and completed in less than one week."

FBI agents will almost certainly interview Kavanaugh, Ford and other potential witnesses to the alleged attack.

The setting for these interviews will be far different than Thursday's extraordinary hearing on Capitol Hill where Ford and Kavanaugh answered questions before a panel of senators.

~snip~ one week is a joke. the FBI was never going to be able to look into anything in a week

JI7

(89,262 posts)
21. The one that took over sucked . I would like to see Liz Cheney as FBI director
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 06:20 PM
Aug 2022

after she loses her congressional seat.

But unless we can have a good idea of the person likely to replace Wray he should not be fired.

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