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BOSSHOG

(37,070 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:42 PM Aug 2022

A Question for my Fellow Veterans. (Secret Documents)

What would become of you if you put a box full of secret documents from your command into your vehicle, drove out the main gate and stuck that box in your bedroom closet. Would you be held accountable? Would you face consequences? Would your career be over?

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A Question for my Fellow Veterans. (Secret Documents) (Original Post) BOSSHOG Aug 2022 OP
Hillary Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #1
General Petraeus got a slap on the wrist,I think Walleye Aug 2022 #2
I worked in G-2 at a corps-level headquarters in a war zone Glorfindel Aug 2022 #3
I'm thinking Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2022 #4
I woulda gone straight to Leavenworth EYESORE 9001 Aug 2022 #5
Fortunately, I never saw this, but in the service, an investigation and court-martial. usonian Aug 2022 #6
If I did that, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #7
I'd still be in the brig... Wounded Bear Aug 2022 #8
Reality Winner gets 5 yr sentence leaking top secret govt report..ffg, 15 boxes from WH? RestoreAmerica2020 Aug 2022 #9
I only had a secret clearance in the USAF, Corgigal Aug 2022 #10
I saw a lot of careers ended GP6971 Aug 2022 #11
An acquaintance of mine carried the secrets to the grave Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #12
In the mid 60's I was in a Special Forces Nat'l Guard unit and assigned to a communications co... Enter stage left Aug 2022 #13
I joined shortly after I graduated HS IN 72 BOSSHOG Aug 2022 #21
Depends on how many documents I might have sold Emile Aug 2022 #14
There is no doubt Codifer Aug 2022 #15
Had I done that sarisataka Aug 2022 #16
BUT HE DIDN'T DECLASSIFY THEM. usonian Aug 2022 #17
He didn't know how to declassify. Nor did he care. BOSSHOG Aug 2022 #19
And what if a couple of us "GI's" accidentally strolled into a S-C-I-F? BOSSHOG Aug 2022 #18
Over and in jail for a length of time depending on the damage those docs can do. haele Aug 2022 #20

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
1. Hillary
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:44 PM
Aug 2022

What’s great about this question is they all were saying the same thing when Hillary had an e-mail server when she was actually the SOS so had compete authority to have them here we she wanted to. Trump is a private citizen, totally different thing.

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
3. I worked in G-2 at a corps-level headquarters in a war zone
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:47 PM
Aug 2022

Every piece of paper we handled was at least "CONFIDENTIAL" and a great deal of it was "TOP SECRET." Even my shorthand notes and typewriter ribbons had to be burned. I expect I would have been shot if I had tried to remove a box full of secret documents.

EYESORE 9001

(25,944 posts)
5. I woulda gone straight to Leavenworth
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:53 PM
Aug 2022

Probably get 20 years if I was lucky. There wouldn’t be much in the way of career prospects afterward.

usonian

(9,815 posts)
6. Fortunately, I never saw this, but in the service, an investigation and court-martial.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:55 PM
Aug 2022

Results may vary, I suppose, according to magnitude.

Plenty of JAG folks on DU.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
9. Reality Winner gets 5 yr sentence leaking top secret govt report..ffg, 15 boxes from WH?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:56 PM
Aug 2022





..conspiracy, fraud,






...fraud, treason against U.S.?
NYTimes By Dave Philipps
Aug. 23, 2018
Reality Winner, the former Air Force linguist and intelligence contractor who pleaded guilty in June to leaking a top-secret government report on Russian hacking, was sentenced on Thursday to five years and three months in federal prison.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/us/reality-winner-nsa-sentence.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwiF3q_DxLj5AhViFzQIHcT-BV4QFnoECC4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw11mdVFFGPnvXLVTc-huIjg






Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
10. I only had a secret clearance in the USAF,
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:58 PM
Aug 2022

but I didn’t have a mortgage I couldn’t pay either, located at 666 Park Avenue.

No, never would sell out America for personal gain.

GP6971

(31,168 posts)
11. I saw a lot of careers ended
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:01 PM
Aug 2022

during my time in the Army. A simple failure to sign off verification the safes were locked at the end of the day resulted adverse efficiency reports.

Enter stage left

(3,396 posts)
13. In the mid 60's I was in a Special Forces Nat'l Guard unit and assigned to a communications co...
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:02 PM
Aug 2022

I had to have a secret clearance to learn the encryption & decryption techniques we used. I don't remember exactly how long it took, but I know it was at least 3 months and possibly longer before my clearance came through.

I got out of the Guard in Sept of 1970, but to this day I won't discuss what we did and used for those messages.

I ended up as a spec 5 (acting E-6) training those under me on the techniques.

Until I get written orders from the military, I will NEVER disclose what we used and how we used it.

I guess I'm a little different from TFG, huh?

BOSSHOG

(37,070 posts)
21. I joined shortly after I graduated HS IN 72
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:26 PM
Aug 2022

I was hearing from neighbors and formers teacher that they were asked questions by the FBI about me. I felt special. I got in a teeny tiny bit of trouble while serving but it had nothing to do with classified material.

Emile

(22,790 posts)
14. Depends on how many documents I might have sold
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:07 PM
Aug 2022

to Putin, sarcasm.

Of course I would have been held accountable. Court-martial and a long prison sentence.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
16. Had I done that
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:09 PM
Aug 2022

I would face a general court martial.

On the other hand I did not have the authority to classify or declassify documents as I wished. A President has that authority. That is something that is being overlooked in all the celebration.

BOSSHOG

(37,070 posts)
18. And what if a couple of us "GI's" accidentally strolled into a S-C-I-F?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:12 PM
Aug 2022

Possible not probable, but consequences undoubtedly.

Remember the gop barging into the impeachment meetings?

haele

(12,660 posts)
20. Over and in jail for a length of time depending on the damage those docs can do.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:15 PM
Aug 2022

If it were something that is over and not currently relative though still classified, it might not carry as long a sentence as, say Nuclear materials transit schedules over next fiscal quarter, but I'd still be looking at jail time.

Haele

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