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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere is more to this raid than meets the eye.
The risk of raiding Trumps home was off the charts. It would be a catastrophic disaster if they raided Trumps home and found nothing.
Believing Trump still had documents would not be good enough for the DOJ to take such a big risk. They must of had in the moment intelligence, evidence, documents or something else was there. How would they know Trump did not destroy the evidence a week ago, 2, 3 days ago? They had to have solid proof evidence was there.
For some reason phone taps keep coming to mind.
EYESORE 9001
(25,947 posts)that rump is the sort of miscreant who would get satisfaction from showing classified documents to members of his execrable golf club. Perhaps one of them has a vestige of patriotism and couldnt remain silent, dropping a dime on Cheeto Benito. This is pure speculation on my part.
Quakerfriend
(5,450 posts)espionage.
Someone on the inside must have told them what to look for.
Novara
(5,844 posts)We know he's got a serious cash crunch with several major loans coming due and no one willing to loan him money anymore. Imagine how much money he could get for selling classified documents to the Saudis, for example.
Quakerfriend
(5,450 posts)Who knows how many national secrets hes already sold.
imanamerican63
(13,802 posts)newdayneeded
(1,955 posts)I agree, they wouldn't of done just because donny was spouting his bullshit. they would've needed solid proof.....period!
Richard D
(8,754 posts). . . is who are his secret service detail loyal to? The United States or trump?
Novara
(5,844 posts)It's a job of protection of a person. There isn't supposed to be any question of loyalty, says a former SS person.
mopinko
(70,134 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)that the toilet pictures were published. Coincidence?
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)In the FBI cases I have read about, yes there has been wire taps, direct surveillance, etc.
And the warrant has to list items being searched for.
So yes they knew what they were looking for and had hard evidence to support the search.
Novara
(5,844 posts)They didn't break the door down and storm the place. This was a quietly executed search warrant.
But you're right about it being much bigger than the classified documents. The legal experts are saying that this was predicated by likely FRESH evidence of an ONGOING CRIME and that it had SOME URGENCY. Otherwise they'd have negotiated with him instead of taking the unprecedented step of getting a search warrant for a former president's SAFE. This is a really big fucking deal.
I suspect he sold classified material to the highest bidder. He's got a lot of big bills due soon and no way of paying for them. Nobody is loaning him money anymore. He's got a serious cash crunch. This might be related to some sort of major illegal grift, and involving national fucking security.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)The doj knew documents were there because (a) they saw them in June, (b) they have been in touch with trumps lawyers who likely confirmed they were still there.
Trump was unwilling to return them.
It would be a slam dunk to get a warrant to search and seize based on those conditions.
It's really simple. It's not political. It's a pedestrian physical crime.