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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:20 AM Aug 2022

Domino's Pizza Quits Italy After Locals Shun American Pies

Domino’s Pizza Inc.’s footprint in the home of Pizza proved to be short lived with Italians favoring local restaurants over the American version.

The last of Domino’s 29 branches have closed after the company started operations in the country seven years ago. It borrowed heavily for plans to open 880 stores, but faced tough competition from local restaurants expanding delivery services during the pandemic and sought protection from creditors after running out of cash and falling behind on its debt obligations.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-09/domino-s-pizza-leaves-italy-as-traditional-margherita-wins



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Domino's Pizza Quits Italy After Locals Shun American Pies (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2022 OP
or a McDonalds in Hamburg? samnsara Aug 2022 #1
. Carlitos Brigante Aug 2022 #2
There are actually quite a few of those: Jose Garcia Aug 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author prodigitalson Aug 2022 #57
If Dominos is the standard of American pies, we're in deep trouble... brooklynite Aug 2022 #3
*sigh* CatWoman Aug 2022 #6
They would buy 5 Dominos bolted together to use as spare tires on their Fiats, but prices went up. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #22
I've lived around many different parts of the US Victor_c3 Aug 2022 #38
You get New York Pizza...lucky dog. Sadly, I can't eat good pizza anymore as I am allergic Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #61
I will never understand how pizza chains continue to survive, let alone thrive in the US Amishman Aug 2022 #4
Pizza is cheap, even delivered. Grubhub, etc., are too expensive for many. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #12
It's not complicated BannonsLiver Aug 2022 #24
Quite a few are shell covers for laundering money. It's not the cheese or crust. It's the COVER! Samrob Aug 2022 #35
It's that way in Germany, anyway, and the politicians bless it DFW Aug 2022 #54
Dominos is a half step above one of those $3 frozen pizzas. marmar Aug 2022 #5
You give them too much praise edhopper Aug 2022 #14
Don't diss Totino's. Those are cheap calories. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #42
Yikes. Celerity Aug 2022 #52
Some of the frozen Pizza's are actually better. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #62
Some Domino's exec actually thought this was a good idea? niyad Aug 2022 #7
My First Thought, Too! ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #31
Is it prospering? niyad Aug 2022 #47
Most Have Bben There For Years ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #59
I meant the Panda Express in Beijing.There is one less than two miles from niyad Aug 2022 #60
Aha! I Misunderstood ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #64
Dominoes isn't even good American pizza and that is a pretty low bar. It like a pizza you doc03 Aug 2022 #8
I've had one Domino's pizza in my life. That was enough to convince me to never have a second. Firestorm49 Aug 2022 #9
Italians know what pizza is and Domino's ain't it. Sneederbunk Aug 2022 #10
When I was in Genoa back in June... Roland99 Aug 2022 #11
as if the absolute dross that is Domino's ever had a chance versus this: Celerity Aug 2022 #13
Neopolitan pizza edhopper Aug 2022 #15
Pepe in Grani 💛❤️, best pizza I have ever had, in Caiazzo, a small town north of Naples Celerity Aug 2022 #21
That looks amazing! edhopper Aug 2022 #30
Evil person - now I have to make a pizza tomorrow Retrograde Aug 2022 #56
Dominoes is nothing like that Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #26
Ohhh myyyy. yummmmmmmm niyad Aug 2022 #48
Italy has hard regulations of what various foods can be edhopper Aug 2022 #16
Good for Italy edhopper Aug 2022 #17
Because it's its own thing Polybius Aug 2022 #33
I understand edhopper Aug 2022 #40
In some small town, it's the only pizza in town. CanonRay Aug 2022 #18
Pequod's on Clybourne St. in Chicago. Sinfully good. We drive from Milwaukee for their deep dish. Firestorm49 Aug 2022 #19
Pequod's is still on my bucket list. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2022 #45
They're All Over The Place Here ProfessorGAC Aug 2022 #32
As an Italian, a pizza fanatic, I can say with confidence that Domino's is not pizza. Stinky The Clown Aug 2022 #20
Who needs Dominos when Ooni exists? Initech Aug 2022 #29
I have two of these as part of my outdoor kitchen Stinky The Clown Aug 2022 #39
That's the thing Polybius Aug 2022 #34
LOL, I predicted that this would be a Domino's whine fest. OLIVE GARDEN! LOL USALiberal Aug 2022 #23
LMAO! As if Domino's would ever be mistaken for actual pizza! Initech Aug 2022 #25
I shun Domino's in the US. milestogo Aug 2022 #27
Dominos does not care about selling tasty pizza RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #36
I would feed that shit H2O Man Aug 2022 #37
Singin' Bye Bye Miss American Pie... Hekate Aug 2022 #41
I'm still going to buy that Benihana franchise in Tokyo.... ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #43
Womp, womp...screw them...another predatory corporation that victimizes their employees pecosbob Aug 2022 #44
What misguided fool would go to Italy and eat Domino's pizza? greatauntoftriplets Aug 2022 #46
Dominoes is owned by an ultra right winger, Tom Monaghan. llmart Aug 2022 #49
+10000000000000000 Celerity Aug 2022 #53
I prefer the less then $3 Walmart Supreme. Kaleva Aug 2022 #50
Dominos is complete shite. BradAllison Aug 2022 #51
Domino's is better than Pizza Hut JI7 Aug 2022 #55
Google Tom Monaghan and Ave Maria Law School... llmart Aug 2022 #63
It's the ol' Taco Bell in Mexico fate. nt prodigitalson Aug 2022 #58

Response to samnsara (Reply #1)

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
3. If Dominos is the standard of American pies, we're in deep trouble...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:29 AM
Aug 2022

Any Brooklyn slice joint would be able to hold its own.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
22. They would buy 5 Dominos bolted together to use as spare tires on their Fiats, but prices went up.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:34 AM
Aug 2022

.

It became cheaper to just buy a regular replacement tire.

.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
38. I've lived around many different parts of the US
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:37 PM
Aug 2022

Most local pizza in most towns I’ve lived in is atrocious, or maybe I’ve been spoiled by living in the NYC metropolitan area for more than a decade.

At least when you order from a chain, you know what sort of mediocracy you’re going to get.

That being said, I’ve never had a domino’s pizza. The last time I ordered from poppy John’s (15 years ago) it was like eating soup on top of something that was supposed to be pizza.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
61. You get New York Pizza...lucky dog. Sadly, I can't eat good pizza anymore as I am allergic
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:41 AM
Aug 2022

to gluten. But if I were going to 'cheat', it would be with New York Pizza. We went to the city quite often and hubs went to Manhattan College. I was in Connecticut-went to UCONN...so we ate great pizza. Even in Connecticut, the pizza was good. The guy who owned the Roma Pizza in Ridgefield Ct imported his water from New York as he swore it made a difference. It was one of the best pizza's I ever tasted.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
4. I will never understand how pizza chains continue to survive, let alone thrive in the US
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:46 AM
Aug 2022

UberEats, GrubHub, etc erased the chains biggest advantage - delivery.

There are plenty of great local places all over. I'm in rural PA, and often see amish buggies on my road, and I have several really good pizza options within a 15 minute drive (which is comparatively close and convenient compared to how far I have to go for other stuff).

DFW

(54,408 posts)
54. It's that way in Germany, anyway, and the politicians bless it
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:08 AM
Aug 2022

The politicians in Germany try to make big PR splashes by advocating the elimination of the €500 euro banknote, rigid controlling of gold transactions, etc., as if arresting grandma for trying to sell her two Krugerrands for cash would somehow bust the Lebanese mafia in Duisburg. Meanwhile, empty pizza parlors and video game halls, along with taxi companies that don't even get 24 rides a week--they bring immense stashes of €10, €20 and €50 bills, between €300,000 and €500,000 worth per business, to the bank every week, fully declared and out in the open, proudly saying how great business is.

Thus, the real drug money is laundered. These guys are better armed than the cops, and they shoot back. The German cops know what is going on (my info comes from the BKA, the German FBI), but they don't want to get into a firefight with a domestic army that is better armed than they are, and knows where their families live. The drug money is laundered this way--in part, anyway. Large sums from phantom real estate deals are laundered by experts armed with laptops, well hidden from prying official eyes. The authorities never find these guys, either. Usually, they are never given the resources to even attempt it. Newspapers print demands that their authorities "do something!" So they go after grandma or the shop that will buy or sell 2 Krugerrands for cash. THEY don't shoot back, and the financial cops get their headlines.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
31. My First Thought, Too!
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:57 PM
Aug 2022

There is a tweet in the OP sharing the same sentiment.
But, there is a Panda Express in Beijing, so go figure.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
59. Most Have Bben There For Years
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:19 AM
Aug 2022

I can think of 3 within a half hour of our house that have been there 10 years or more.
Those are likely doing fine.
Admittedly, that's only 4.2% of those stores in the region, so it doesn't necessarily speak to all 71.
Interestingly, I saw 14 addresses actually in Chicago proper.
I figured it would be more a suburban thing, but 20% are actually in the city, where there are indie pizza joints galore.

niyad

(113,346 posts)
60. I meant the Panda Express in Beijing.There is one less than two miles from
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:34 AM
Aug 2022

me, and others around town. Have no idea how they are doing.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
64. Aha! I Misunderstood
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:37 PM
Aug 2022

I have a hard time believing they're doing big business.
In downtown Beijing, there are a couple restaurants on every block.
Unless PE has a very different menu than here, it's probably overpriced mediocre food compared to just down the block.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
8. Dominoes isn't even good American pizza and that is a pretty low bar. It like a pizza you
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:50 AM
Aug 2022

get from a box at Kroger.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
11. When I was in Genoa back in June...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:19 AM
Aug 2022

we hit the tourist street where the shuttles from the port drop you off. Ended up having a late lunch in one of the restaurants there in the heart of the kitsch and, wow, was it really good food or what?!

Not surprised Domino's is pulling out if even the touristy places have awesome and cheap food

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
56. Evil person - now I have to make a pizza tomorrow
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 01:29 AM
Aug 2022

Mine aren't as pretty as these, but they are homemade, including the crust and the sauce.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
16. Italy has hard regulations of what various foods can be
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:42 AM
Aug 2022

I am surprised they allowed Dominos to call their crap pizza.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
17. Good for Italy
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:43 AM
Aug 2022

I don't understand how Dominos survives in New York, when there is better pizza on the next corner.

Polybius

(15,437 posts)
33. Because it's its own thing
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:22 PM
Aug 2022

My mother was 100% Italian, and I know the food very well. True it can't compare here in NY, as it doesn't taste like real pizza. It tastes good, but like something very different; sometimes I'm just in the mood for Dominos.

Kinda like Taco Bell. Tastes noting like real Mexican tacos, but it's a different thing and delicious in its own right.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
40. I understand
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 02:41 PM
Aug 2022

let's say what we consider delicious is vastly different.

I had Taco Bell once and could not get past the first bite.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
18. In some small town, it's the only pizza in town.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

I don't think they do well in Chicago either...too many Italian descendants.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
45. Pequod's is still on my bucket list.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:54 PM
Aug 2022

It's 10-12 miles from here as the crow flies but 45 minutes as the car drives. In the meantime, we're not hurting for good, non-chain pizza places right around me.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
32. They're All Over The Place Here
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:00 PM
Aug 2022

According to their website, there are 71 stores in the Chicago market.
So, despite their mediocrity, they're doing OK here.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
20. As an Italian, a pizza fanatic, I can say with confidence that Domino's is not pizza.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:56 AM
Aug 2022

What the fuck did they expect????

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
39. I have two of these as part of my outdoor kitchen
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 02:04 PM
Aug 2022

We often have groups of 10 or 12 people. These cook fast (850-900 degrees) and with two ovens we get pretty good production.

Polybius

(15,437 posts)
34. That's the thing
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:23 PM
Aug 2022

It tastes very different than pizza, but it's pretty good. I won't compare it to pizza. I get it once or twice a year, and I'm Italian in NYC.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
36. Dominos does not care about selling tasty pizza
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:28 PM
Aug 2022

They care about selling franchises period.

They mostly sell things to make and fill a pizza store. logos t-shirts, dough, pizza boxes etc

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
46. What misguided fool would go to Italy and eat Domino's pizza?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 08:09 PM
Aug 2022

I don't eat it in Chicago. Mostly I make it myself.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
49. Dominoes is owned by an ultra right winger, Tom Monaghan.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:36 PM
Aug 2022

I know enough about them to know that they are the kind who want to shove their pro-life, ultra Catholic crap down everyone else's throat. I worked in a building next door to and on Domino's Farm property. My supervisor used to tell me all about the Monaghan's agenda since she'd worked there much longer than I did. That was the first time I'd ever tried their pizza and it was truly awful.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
63. Google Tom Monaghan and Ave Maria Law School...
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:29 AM
Aug 2022

and see the connection between Domino's owners and the right wing, Catholic agenda. These are the kind of people who brought us Boofer Boy and the Handmaid on the SCOTUS, and Scalia too.

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