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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:01 AM Aug 2022

Sinema received over $500K from private equity before shielding industry from tax hikes

By Kenny Stancil, Common Dreams
Published August 09, 2022

Senate Democrats passed a pared-backed reconciliation package on Sunday, but only after a pair of widely supported provisions that would have made it harder for Wall Street tycoons to reduce their tax bills were removed at the behest of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema—the right-wing Arizona Democrat who has taken more than $500,000 in campaign contributions from private equity executives during the current election cycle.

"Remember the days when taking half a million bucks from an industry, and then passing legislation that only benefits that industry, while passing the costs onto everyone else, would be called corruption?" Brown University political economist Mark Blyth asked on social media. "Today it's just lobbying as usual."

Last week, Sinema agreed to back the Inflation Reduction Act as long as the so-called "carried interest loophole," which benefits hedge fund managers and private equity moguls by allowing their investment income to be taxed at the long-term capital gains rate of around 20% rather than the ordinary top income rate of 37%, was preserved.

https://www.rawstory.com/sinema-received-over-500k-from-private-equity-before-shielding-industry-from-tax-hikes/

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Sinema received over $500K from private equity before shielding industry from tax hikes (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2022 OP
Helluva investment dalton99a Aug 2022 #1
I am furiously disappointed in her. LogicFirst Aug 2022 #4
But hey PatSeg Aug 2022 #38
Shocking BeyondGeography Aug 2022 #2
Badly misstates what would be considered corruption FBaggins Aug 2022 #3
"abortion industry," what exactly is your meaning here? irisblue Aug 2022 #13
Companies that provide abortion services? FBaggins Aug 2022 #17
The phrase "abortion industry" is right-wing framing, fyi nt Rob H. Aug 2022 #37
So what's preferred? FBaggins Aug 2022 #40
"Call the companies in that industry/field whatever you want." Rob H. Aug 2022 #45
But what about... Iggo Aug 2022 #20
You're going to be hard-pressed to find senators without wealthy donors FBaggins Aug 2022 #23
For the record: I'm not talking about the great and powerful Sinema, here. Iggo Aug 2022 #49
No, corruption occurs when they have "donors". All the money paid to campaigns by corporations... xocetaceans Aug 2022 #51
You're defending someone who scuttled Biden's agenda... brush Aug 2022 #22
She campaigned as a progressive not fooled Aug 2022 #34
A decade ago? She's been elected multiple times since then FBaggins Aug 2022 #36
Oh, for crying out loud. momta Aug 2022 #39
"Healthcare" doesn't differentiate insulin producers from abortion providers. nt FBaggins Aug 2022 #42
You're right momta Aug 2022 #50
Money well spent Mad_Machine76 Aug 2022 #5
Crony capitalism is alive and doing quite well.....as usual. walkingman Aug 2022 #6
We need to elect two more Democratic Senators. Nt spooky3 Aug 2022 #7
This JustAnotherGen Aug 2022 #31
I know it's impossible, BUT bluestarone Aug 2022 #8
AGREED! If we only had PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS. No outside $ whatsoever. CurtEastPoint Aug 2022 #14
You can start DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #28
EXACTLY! bluestarone Aug 2022 #52
It is now DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #53
She really played her supporters. Turned out to be nothing Thrill Aug 2022 #9
I'm furious with her. ChazInAz Aug 2022 #29
Always follow the money. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #10
They saved millions for that $500K investment IronLionZion Aug 2022 #11
My thoughts exactly! She sold us out for a measly $500,000? I'm insulted. liberalla Aug 2022 #15
Half a million here, DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #24
Your final, capitalized two sentences say it perfectly. I'm in agreement. The monster they liberalla Aug 2022 #33
I Think that our representatives should be required to wear when they are on Capitol property Oldtimeralso Aug 2022 #12
Great idea, and font size corresponding to the amount of graft Pinback Aug 2022 #44
Can Someone Tell me - Can that money only be used for her campaign Obvious85 Aug 2022 #16
LOL DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #25
obviously it's not for personal use drray23 Aug 2022 #32
Didn't the mango moron use PAC money... Oldtimeralso Sep 2022 #54
She never had a spine RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2022 #18
Because of course she did. Iggo Aug 2022 #19
Reporters should keep on asking her and her staff why she wanted that provision taken out Mr. Sparkle Aug 2022 #21
How is this not "quid pro quo"? Picaro Aug 2022 #26
The hand out gets the handout. No doubt. dchill Aug 2022 #27
she does not care if she does not get reelected drray23 Aug 2022 #30
Its a bribe. duforsure Aug 2022 #35
Quid pro quo right there! FBI? DOJ? Dustlawyer Aug 2022 #41
Wrong Latin phrase FBaggins Aug 2022 #43
Res Ipsa Loquiter? Dustlawyer Aug 2022 #48
Wow, a pitance. We need to elect a real dem to that seat. onecaliberal Aug 2022 #46
Did the Republican Senators get half a million, too? gratuitous Aug 2022 #47

PatSeg

(47,512 posts)
38. But hey
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:17 PM
Aug 2022

Someone has to look after the interests of the poor hedge fund managers. Cuz who is representing them?

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
3. Badly misstates what would be considered corruption
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:10 AM
Aug 2022

Scores of Democrats receive money from the abortion industry, or unions, or advocates for raising the minimum wage... and they they go and vote for those issues.

But that isn't corruption. Corruption is when a politician supports or opposes a given position and then changes their mind due to being paid off. It isn't corruption when you receive political contributions from groups that support the things that you already support.

Sinema opposed the changes to the carried interest rules all along.

irisblue

(32,982 posts)
13. "abortion industry," what exactly is your meaning here?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:58 AM
Aug 2022

.."abortion industry.." , what the hell is that?

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
17. Companies that provide abortion services?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:03 PM
Aug 2022

What else?

Planned Parenthood alone will donate about a million dollars this cycle - almost exclusively to Democratic candidates. Do you think a single one of them is "corrupt" when they then vote exactly the same way they were going to vote anyway?

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
40. So what's preferred?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:20 PM
Aug 2022

The real point is being dodged here - Democratic politicians attract donations because they support reproductive rights... they don't support those rights because of those donations. Call the companies in that industry/field whatever you want. Their donations are not corrupting unless you can point to someone who was anti-choice until they received a PP donation.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
45. "Call the companies in that industry/field whatever you want."
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:29 PM
Aug 2022

Nope. "Abortion industry" is used by right-wing think tanks like The Heritage Foundation, media outlets like FoxNews, and fundamentalist religions, so I won't use it because it plays into their narrative that abortion providers care more about money than birth control, women's health, reproductive freedom, and bodily autonomy. Phrases like "advocates for reproductive choice," while a bit longer, more accurately reflect the aims of these organizations.

"Call the companies in that industry (there's that word again)/field whatever you want" is cavalier and insulting, imo, because words matter. YMMV.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
20. But what about...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:08 PM
Aug 2022

…all the great and beautiful things she does for all those poor people with shitloads of money?

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
23. You're going to be hard-pressed to find senators without wealthy donors
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:13 PM
Aug 2022

Corruption is when they change their mind on an issue because of those funds.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
49. For the record: I'm not talking about the great and powerful Sinema, here.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:43 PM
Aug 2022

Corruption involves turning bad. But you can’t turn bad if you already are bad. Is that what we’re saying in our whatabout?

Again, for the record, I am not talking about the beautiful and most perfect senator Sinema, who is perfect.

(EDIT: Yes, I’m pissed about something. I’ll get over it soon…lol.)

xocetaceans

(3,871 posts)
51. No, corruption occurs when they have "donors". All the money paid to campaigns by corporations...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:54 PM
Aug 2022

...are essentially bribes - i.e., it's all quid pro quo; for access, for favorable votes, etc. That is part of why Citizens United has terrible consequences.

All campaigns should be allotted a set amount by the government to spend on reelection, and that is it. Money above and beyond that is purely corruption manifesting itself.

Of course, the Congress won't restrict their own chances of getting rich through this kind corruption or through the revolving door, so this all can be done.

However, it is still corruption.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
34. She campaigned as a progressive
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:46 PM
Aug 2022

then did a 180 once in office and once the cash started rolling in.

Corruption per your definition; it's just that she has already changed her stance and gotten money before this present instance. So now we have continuation of the corruption, I guess you would say.

And, please describe this "abortion industry" for my enlightenment.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
36. A decade ago? She's been elected multiple times since then
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:10 PM
Aug 2022

She may have been socially progressive, but she was clearly a fiscal moderate from the beginning and has consistently been rated as a moderate (or even conservative) while in office. Wikipedia says that she was the 47th most-conservative member of the senate in her first year (no small feat considering there were 53 republicans at the time).

Feel free to point out when she campaigned for ending the carried-interest tax treatment and then changed her mind.

And, please describe this "abortion industry" for my enlightenment.

What do you call companies that provide abortion services? Big abortion? The abortion lobby? What's a better way to describe them?

momta

(4,079 posts)
39. Oh, for crying out loud.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:19 PM
Aug 2022
What do you call companies that provide abortion services? Big abortion? The abortion lobby? What's a better way to describe them?

I call it HEALTHCARE!!!

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
31. This
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:39 PM
Aug 2022

Preferably two that will understand that Sinema sacrificed the middle class family of our in NJ four folks making $1M in interest in Kentucky

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
28. You can start
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:29 PM
Aug 2022

with REPEALING the "CITIZENS UNITED" decision that occurred in 2010 with a Supreme Court ruling..........

That ONE thing really opened the door to Corporate/Uber Rich Money corruption to a scale never seen before.............

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
52. EXACTLY!
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 02:04 PM
Aug 2022

Plus they knew that decision would provide BILLIONS of dollars in donations! I really would like to see our BILLIONAIRE friends, help us MORE this year than ever! It's NOW or NEVER, in 22 and 24!!!

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
53. It is now
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:37 PM
Aug 2022

It is now in 2022.......If they take control of Senate and or House, the 2024 election will be a joke.

You must not forget that "OUR" zillionaires got just as big a cut in taxes as THEIR zillionaires.

Hell, they could at least given us the amount they got from Trump's tax cuts.....

Then again, several of OUR Dem Zillionaires had associations with Epstein also....and now they are probably just laying low.........

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
9. She really played her supporters. Turned out to be nothing
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:35 AM
Aug 2022

Nothing like the Senator they thought she would be.

ChazInAz

(2,570 posts)
29. I'm furious with her.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:36 PM
Aug 2022

I helped out with her GOTV drive, knocked on doors, manned phones for her campaign, only to find out that she was a cuckoo sneaked into our Democratic nest.

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
15. My thoughts exactly! She sold us out for a measly $500,000? I'm insulted.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:00 PM
Aug 2022

It was worth a lot more than that.

But heh, a few more feathers for her nest...

Pissed, I am!

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
24. Half a million here,
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:21 PM
Aug 2022

Half a million there, pretty soon you're talking about some real money.........

U.S. House and Senate Republicans, the best government money can buy..........................

We all need to remember ONE single thing. This giant, never ending horrific nightmare exists because the
United State Senate Republicans did absolutely nothing to stop Trump, and in fact for 4+ years have endorsed Trump and enabled him in every way they could to continue the rampage of the U.S. Citizens, the Constitution, and Rules of Law and Order.

THE SENATE REPUBLICANS COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING, REGARDING TRUMP'S LAWLESS PRESIDENCY, ON ANY DAY FOR FOUR YEARS AND THEY DIDN'T DO A FUCKING THING..........!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS TRUMP/REPUBLICAN PARTY/REPUBLICAN SENATE MALIGNANCY CORRUPTLY MULTIPLIED INCREDIBLY WITH EACH AND EVERY DAY..............

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
33. Your final, capitalized two sentences say it perfectly. I'm in agreement. The monster they
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:41 PM
Aug 2022

created, they could not control. The ride had to keep going. What weak little shits they are.

That's why Liz Cheney is looking so strong and principled right now.

Oldtimeralso

(1,937 posts)
12. I Think that our representatives should be required to wear when they are on Capitol property
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:58 AM
Aug 2022

Or while campaigning a NASCAR style driver's suit that lists all of their sponsors.

Pinback

(12,157 posts)
44. Great idea, and font size corresponding to the amount of graft
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:28 PM
Aug 2022

similar to the way the frequency of a term is portrayed in a word cloud.

Obvious85

(259 posts)
16. Can Someone Tell me - Can that money only be used for her campaign
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:01 PM
Aug 2022

Or does she get to use that money personally? I am not clear on the laws/rules on this

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
25. LOL
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:24 PM
Aug 2022

The Republicans don't seem to care if it is illegal or not, haven't you noticed??????????

Some guy, in the 1700's said: "Democracy will work until groups figure out that they can vote themselves money...."

drray23

(7,634 posts)
32. obviously it's not for personal use
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:40 PM
Aug 2022

if it's for her PAC she can't just pocket the money. That would send her to prison like some members of congress in the past.

Oldtimeralso

(1,937 posts)
54. Didn't the mango moron use PAC money...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 06:51 PM
Sep 2022

To payoff his mistresses? I thought his attorney even admitted that.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
18. She never had a spine
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:04 PM
Aug 2022

don't pretend like she has one now.

we always knew she was jelly fish.

Our system is not broken, but it's close....This is a modern day bribe.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
19. Because of course she did.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:05 PM
Aug 2022

In keeping with my new policy of only saying nice things about that particular senator…

Yay, Sinema! She’s the best!

Mr. Sparkle

(2,935 posts)
21. Reporters should keep on asking her and her staff why she wanted that provision taken out
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:12 PM
Aug 2022

I'd like to hear her try to rationalize removing the carried interest loophole

Picaro

(1,522 posts)
26. How is this not "quid pro quo"?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:24 PM
Aug 2022

Sure looks like a bribe to me.

Oh, I’m sorry. Citizens United made that money free speech.

drray23

(7,634 posts)
30. she does not care if she does not get reelected
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:38 PM
Aug 2022

She has secured a job in an hedge fund as soon as she gets out of congress. They will put her on the board or create some position fir her.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
41. Quid pro quo right there! FBI? DOJ?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:20 PM
Aug 2022

We have to all demand Publicly Funded Elections! This is why we cannot have nice things!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
47. Did the Republican Senators get half a million, too?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 01:30 PM
Aug 2022

Or did they sell out too cheaply? Gotta learn to negotiate harder if you're going to make your corruption worthwhile, boys. Oh, and you big finance boyz? Save your nickels and dimes, because as soon as her vote isn't required anymore, Sen. Sinema isn't going to be there to save your pampered fannies, and you're going to have to pay your fair share for this country that has made you so fabulously wealthy.

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