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WaPo just reported, Ari Melber on MSNBC said, some of the papers at Merde de Lardo may be so sensitive, they cannot be described in public.
The former Mueller investigator guy Andrew Weissmann said it sounds like sensitive compartmentalized information.
PortTack
(32,778 posts)Claustrum
(4,845 posts)I wonder if it has anything to do with Russia invading Ukraine.
Ive always thought TFG gave info on the red line of the US defense of what we would do militarily.
PortTack
(32,778 posts)A lot of our troubles run right thru this war thank the gods we have President Biden. Pootie has got to be stopped or the entire free world is in big big trouble
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Thomas Bowers, who worked above Trumps personal banker, was 55
By Ian Spiegelman
LA Magazine-November 27, 2019
A former Deutsche Bank executive who reportedly signed off on some of the institutions unorthodox loans to Donald Trump killed himself in his Malibu home on November 19. Thomas Bowers, the onetime head of Deutsche Banks American wealth-management division, where he oversaw Trumps private banker, committed suicide by hanging, according to Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroners office. Bowers was 55.
Trumps relationship with Deutsche Bankwhich lent him around $2 billion after most other institutions had forsaken him for his history of defaults and bankruptcieshas come under investigation by two Congressional committees and the New York Attorney General, who are hoping the bank can shed light on Trumps elusive finances, according to the New York Times. At one point, Bowers had a close connection to those finances.
Rosemary T. Vrablic, a managing director at Deutsche Bank who became Trumps private banker in 2010 after being introduced by her client, Jared Kushner, reported directly to Bowers. Vrablic reportedly helped Trump secure loans from her bank, which Bowers approvedincluding more than $100 million to buy his Doral resort in Miamieven after Trump and Deutsche had to settle messy litigation over a Chicago loan that went bad.
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Bowers isnt the first Trump-connected Deutsche exec to commit suicide. In 2014, Deutsche derivatives analyst William S. Broeksmit, who reportedly had links to Trump and Russia, hung himself from a dog leash at his home in London.
Source:
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/deutsche-bank-death/
https://www.fedortax.com/blog/deutsche-bank-nabbed-for-money-laundering-in-russian-laundromat-investigation
https://ips-dc.org/trumps-dirty-money/
So weird that.
OMGWTF
(3,959 posts)Why did Kennedy resign so suddenly?
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Your kids have been very nice to him, Kennedy replied.
Well, Trump said, they love him, and they love him in New York.
Source: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/donald-trump-supreme-court-236925
PortTack
(32,778 posts)Lot more machines!
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Trumps Russian Laundromat
How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.
By CRAIG UNGER
The New Republic, July , 2017
Excerpt...
Trump made his first trip to Russia in 1987, only a few years before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Invited by Soviet Ambassador Yuri Dubinin, Trump was flown to Moscow and Leningradall expenses paidto talk business with high-ups in the Soviet command. In The Art of the Deal, Trump recounted the lunch meeting with Dubinin that led to the trip. One thing led to another, he wrote, and now Im talking about building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government.
Over the years, Trump and his sons would try and fail five times to build a new Trump Tower in Moscow. But for Trump, what mattered most were the lucrative connections he had begun to make with the Kremlinand with the wealthy Russians who would buy so many of his properties in the years to come. Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets, Donald Trump Jr. boasted at a real estate conference in 2008. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.
The money, illicit and otherwise, began to rain in earnest after the Soviet Union fell in 1991. President Boris Yeltsins shift to a market economy was so abrupt that cash-rich gangsters and corrupt government officials were able to privatize and loot state-held assets in oil, coal, minerals, and banking. Yeltsin himself, in fact, would later describe Russia as the biggest mafia state in the world. After Vladimir Putin succeeded Yeltsin as president, Russian intelligence effectively joined forces with the countrys mobsters and oligarchs, allowing them to operate freely as long as they strengthen Putins power and serve his personal financial interests. According to James Henry, a former chief economist at McKinsey & Company who consulted on the Panama Papers, some $1.3 trillion in illicit capital has poured out of Russia since the 1990s.
At the top of the sprawling criminal enterprise was Semion Mogilevich. Beginning in the early 1980s, according to the FBI, the short, squat Ukrainian was the key money-laundering contact for the Solntsevskaya Bratva, or Brotherhood, one of the richest criminal syndicates in the world. Before long, he was running a multibillion-dollar worldwide racket of his own. Mogilevich wasnt feared because he was the most violent gangster, but because he was reputedly the smartest. The FBI has credited the brainy don, who holds a degree in economics from Lviv University, with a staggering range of crimes. He ran drug trafficking and prostitution rings on an international scale; in one characteristic deal, he bought a bankrupt airline to ship heroin from Southeast Asia into Europe. He used a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest as a front for art that Russian gangsters stole from museums, churches, and synagogues all over Europe. He has also been accused of selling some $20 million in stolen weapons, including ground-to-air missiles and armored troop carriers, to Iran. He uses this wealth and power to not only further his criminal enterprises, the FBI says, but to influence governments and their economies.
In Russia, Mogilevichs influence reportedly reaches all the way to the top. In 2005, Alexander Litvinenko, a Russian intelligence agent who defected to London, recorded an interview with investigators detailing his inside knowledge of the Kremlins ties to organized crime. Mogilevich, he said in broken English, have good relationship with Putin since 1994 or 1993. A year later Litvinenko was dead, apparently poisoned by agents of the Kremlin.
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https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)Some of the documents cannot even be itemized on a list.
Wow.
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)If they found stuff they were looking for, I wonder what else the FBI found?
Especially in the dips safe?
Ive been laughing out loud since I heard the news.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Thx for sharing!
dweller
(23,642 posts)✌🏻
grumpyduck
(6,240 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Sorry, I cannot quote further. Paywall:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/09/trump-fbi-search-mar-a-lago/
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)A lawyer for Donald Trump said agents seized about a dozen boxes on Monday, months after 15 boxes of items were returned
By Devlin Barrett, Josh Dawsey, Rosalind S. Helderman, Jacqueline Alemany and Spencer S. Hsu
The Washington Post, Aug. 9, 2022
In the months before the FBIs dramatic move to execute a search warrant at former president Donald Trumps Florida home and open his safe to look for items federal authorities grew increasingly concerned that Trump or his lawyers and aides had not, in fact, returned all the documents and other material that were government property, according to people familiar with the discussions.
Officials became suspicious that when Trump gave back items to the National Archives about seven months ago, either the former president or people close to him held on to key records despite a Justice Department investigation into the handling of 15 boxes of material sent to the former presidents private club and residence in the waning days of his administration.
Over months of discussions on the subject, some officials also came to suspect Trumps representatives were not truthful at times, according to people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
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In June, Bobb said, she and Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran met with Jay Bratt, the chief of the counterintelligence and export control section at the Justice Department, along with several investigators. Trump stopped by the meeting as it began to greet the investigators but was not interviewed. The lawyers showed the federal officials the boxes, and Bratt and the others spent some time looking through the material.
Bobb said the Justice Department officials commented that they did not believe the storage unit was properly secured, so Trump officials added a lock to the facility. When FBI agents searched the property Monday, Bobb added, they broke through the lock that had been added to the door.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/09/trump-fbi-search-mar-a-lago/
elleng
(130,975 posts)so sensitive, they cannot be described in public.
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Harvard professor of law sums up where were at as a nation, politically and strategically:
Trump is willing to talk to Putin about Mueller, but not to Mueller about Putin. What kind of president has that kind of disloyalty to the United States? Laurence Tribe
It was a quote that made me post:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212080293
The professor brought that up in May, 2019. So much transpired after that, the Intelligence Community must have been keeping track and setting traps.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)Do you think he would make a run for Moscow or try to launch Civil War 2?
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)
concurrently, or in what order?
Trump flies and his family and name would be welcome in few ports with ATMs around the world, apart from Vladivostok and Pyongyang.
Going from the news, his toad swarm in Congress and a few remaining outlets on television have had a tough go selling the Civil War. But theyre really trying.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)He would probably want to flee to Dubai, but the UAE might not want to take that heat.
Lonestarblue
(10,018 posts)Although if hes fleeing prosecution and has no chance of becoming president again, MBS might dump him.
If Trump had such top secret classified documents, it was to sell them to US enemies. I wonder if US intelligence services planted a couple of fake pieces of information that have turned up in the hands of people who should not have them. Isnt the process for aides in the White House to put such highly classified documents in a burn bag for destruction after a president has read them? They dont get to keep them lying around, so how did Trump manage to acquire 12 boxes?
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)He'd be another pain that Vlad doesn't need right now.
I think Vlad might make a show of welcoming him, but after a few weeks they'd announce a new Trump Resort and Casino... located somewhere above the Arctic Circle, where Donny would be spending all his time.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 10, 2022, 06:36 PM - Edit history (1)
That were housed in France with the hope that they could be used at some point to forment a revolt in the event of war.
MagickMuffin
(15,943 posts)We have been discussing this for a long long time.
I find it interesting that no Enforcers vetted him and sounded an alarm, except Hillary told us so.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Patently obvious since qpuke convention in 2016.
rsdsharp
(9,186 posts)Hes a traitor.
Delphinus
(11,831 posts)you have stated it correctly.
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:55 AM - Edit history (1)
Scientists turned dead spiders into robotsIn a new field dubbed necrobotics, researchers used dead arachnids to clutch objects
By Asa Stahl
Science News, AUGUST 4, 2022 AT 7:00 AM
Scientists have literally reanimated dead spiders to do their bidding.
In a new field dubbed necrobotics, researchers converted the corpses of wolf spiders into grippers that can manipulate objects. All the team had to do was stab a syringe into a dead spiders back and superglue it in place. Pushing fluid in and out of the cadaver made its legs clench open and shut, the researchers report July 25 in Advanced Science.
The idea was born from a simple question, explains Faye Yap, a mechanical engineer at Rice University in Houston. Why do spiders curl up when they die?
Source: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/dead-wolf-spiders-robots-necrobots
Cha
(297,323 posts)I guess he didn't get rid of the "Sensitive Papers" though.. Arrogant POS spy too Arrogant to think the FBI would come KNOCKING>
Psycho Instigated a Raid on our Capitol.. it's his Fucking Turn.
Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)that all these Repub assholes firmly believed they were gonna succeed with their J6 insurrection. They could do anything they wanted and would get away with it when Trump was installed....... And many of them still think they will prevail in overturning the government and installing Trump to a Dictator/Tyrant position once again..........
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Reverse Watergate! So Unfair! 57 varieties. Sad.
Irish_Dem
(47,133 posts)Anything Trump thinks he could sell or use for blackmail.
Sounding like they are going to never let us know, claiming classified material.
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Remember when the dip had his stuff together enough to be a REAL threat? The CIA had to extricate a secret agent who worked for decades in the Kremlin to monitor and report Putins doings, fearing Donald J. Trump would out an American spy to the Russian president, shows the U.S. national security apparatus did not trust pee-resident Trump to keep secrets from our nations enemies.
Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
by Jim Sciutto
CNN, Sept. 9, 2019
In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government, multiple Trump administration officials with direct knowledge told CNN.
A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.
The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel.
The disclosure to the Russians by the President, though not about the Russian spy specifically, prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure, according to the source directly involved in the matter.
At the time, then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the covert source, known as an asset. An extraction, or exfiltration as such an operation is referred to by intelligence officials, is an extraordinary remedy when US intelligence believes an asset is in immediate danger.
The source was considered the highest level source for the US inside the Kremlin, high up in the national security infrastructure, according to the source familiar with the matter and a former senior intelligence official.
According to CNNs sources, the spy had access to Putin and could even provide images of documents on the Russian leaders desk.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html
OK. Spy and a Traitor.
Irish_Dem
(47,133 posts)That is only one that we were told about.
We can assume there were others, and most likely some agents were killed.
Trump has been a Russian asset for decades. All of Putin's time and money paid off when he installed his puppet into the WH.
I suspect that Trump took classified docs to sell to enemies.
But he could have dug deep into the classified archives to get info that would fetch a high price from the US media or embarrass the US government.
JFK assassination, UFOs, presidential girlfriends, etc.
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)malaise
(269,063 posts)Slobby committed a plethora of crimes
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)As are we all.
malaise
(269,063 posts)Blue Owl
(50,427 posts)COL Mustard
(5,906 posts)Were two of my favorite Pottsylvanian spies from my childhood. As Jimmy Buffett says, God I miss those Commies.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Precisely!!!
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)America would have noticed the voices are the same. First I remember hearing her was like February, 2017. Wish We the People could have gotten to ask Jeffrey Epstein if he really arranged a genius entry visa for her. He claimed to have introduced the First Decouple. And even if 100 Alan Dershowitz associates were screaming how innocent it is to get a rub down from an elderly Russian lady in ones skivvies, I know you knew something was wrong with them, Blue Owl.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)A good Russian name.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Criminal charges are one thing, but espionage and treason? On top of sedition? Damn that would turn this country inside out.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)If Republicans want to side with the traitors, then let the chips fall where they may.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)But let's see how the DOJ plays this. I'm not holding my breath.
The law applies to everyone. Period. Full Fucking Stop.
If the law does not apply to everyone.... they WILL do it again.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Who likely sold out his country for his own financial gain. Anything for a buck.
Botany
(70,520 posts)BTW Hunter Biden and his laptop is a Russian talking point.
BTW part 2 .... I betya Trump was selling state secrets to Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and ....
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Botany
(70,520 posts)I imagine much of it is what is in the hidden parts of the Mueller Report.
And the slob is not beind bars why?
Botany
(70,520 posts).... was selling them.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He knew they contained sensitive information.
It would seem espionage is the only explanation.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)Is there any evidence that some of the documents are so sensitive that they cannot be described in public, or is this just speculation?
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)History untaught and unreported: The admiral on the right in the picture below ran a spy operation on the president at left.
The reason? He thought Nixon was going soft on communism.
Al Haig, The NSC and the White House Spy Ring: The Nixon Story You Never Heard
Joan Hoff
Montana State University, Jan. 2014, M
EXCERPT...
Over three decades ago on December 21, 1971, Richard Nixon approved the first major cover-up of his administration. He did so reluctantly at the behest of his closest political advisers, Attorney General John Mitchell, Domestic Counselor John Ehrlichman, and Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman. The public remains ignorant of this seminal event in Nixons first term and journalists and historians have largely ignored it. The question is why? A recently released Nixon tape transcribed from an enhanced CD produced by the Nixon Era Center provides the clearest answer to this thirty-year-old Nixon secret.
On that December day Nixon agreed to cover-up a criminally insubordinate spying operation conducted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff inside the National Security Council because of the militarys strong, visceral dislike of Nixons foreign policy. In particular, the JCS thought Nixon gone soft on communism by reaching out to the Chinese and Russians, and they resented Vietnamization as a way to end the war.
As early as 1976 Admiral Elmo Zumwalt publicly made these military suspicions and resentment abundantly clear in his book, On Watch: A Memoir. I had first become concerned many months before the June 1972 burglary, Zumwalt wrote, (about) the deliberate, systematic and, unfortunately, extremely successful efforts of the President, Henry Kissinger, and a few subordinate members of their inner circle to conceal, sometimes by simple silence, more often by articulate deceit, their real policies about the most critical matters of national security. In a word, Zumwalt, like many within the American military elite, thought that Nixons foreign policies bordered on the traitorous because they were inimical to the security of the United States.
This atmosphere of extreme distrust led Admiral Thomas Moorer, head of the JCS, to first authorize Rear Admiral Rembrandt C. Robinson and later Rear Admiral Robert O. Welander, both liaisons between the Joint Chiefs and the White Houses National Security Council, to start spying on the NSC. For thirteen months, from late 1970 to late 1971, Navy Yeoman Charles E. Radford, an aide to both Robinson and Welander, systematically stole and copied NSC documents from burn bags containing carbon copies, briefcases, and desks of Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig, and their staff. He then turned them over to his superiors.
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The most striking aspect of this tape is the passive role played by Nixonthe so-called original imperial president. First, he is out-talked by the others throughout this fifty-two-minute conversation. Toward the end of tape, the president can be heard saying to his advisers in a loud voice that the JCS spy activity was wrong! Understand? Im just saying thats wrong. Do you agree? A little later he called it a federal offense of the highest order. Up to this point, however, John Mitchell told the president that the important thing is to paper this thing over because this Welander thing . . . Is going to get right into the middle of Joint Chiefs of Staff.
In other words, Nixon would have to take on the entire military command if he exposed the spy ring. Moreover, this expose would take place in an election year and when the president had scheduled trips to both China and the Soviet Union to confirm improved relations with these countrieswhich the military opposed. Taking on the military establishment with such important political and diplomatic events on the horizon could have proven disastrous for the presidents most important objectives and revealed other back-channel diplomatic activities of the administration. Later in his memoirs the president said that the media would have completely distorted the incident and exposure would have done damage to the military at time when it was already under heavy attack.
In contrast, at the time all three men agreed with Nixon about the seriousness of the crime committed by the JCS. Mitchell even compared it to coming in (to the president's office) and robbing your desk. However, they advised him to do no more than to inform Moorer that the White House knew about the JCS spy ring, to interview Welander (who was later transferred to sea duty), and to transfer Radford. Moorer subsequently denied obtaining any information from purloined documents, fallaciously claiming that Nixon kept him fully informed about all his foreign policy initiatives. If this had been true there would have been no need for Moorer to set up a spy ring. Welander, for his part according to this tape, had initially refused to answer questions about the spying he was supervising on the questionable grounds that he had a personal and confidential relationship with both Kissinger and Haig.
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http://spikethenews.blogspot.com/2014/01/al-haig-nsc-and-white-house-spy-ring.html
Yeoman Radford stole from Henry Kissinger's briefcase on secret trip to China...
...in all he may've copied more than 10,000 documents.
"I didn't know he screened through the thing, but I knew he did carry 'em to me and I just returned from San Clemente and I had been told every damn thing that was in there...I gave the things back to (Alexander) Haig." -- Thomas H. Moorer, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
SOURCE: http://nixontapes.org/welander.html
History shows that the brass hats who run the Pentagon are just as liable as any lowly journalist to forget for whom they work. Thanks to NSA and all the rest of the oxymoronic alphabet soup of an Military Industrial Intelligence Community, while we don't need to remind them what we think of that, as they're listening and reading just about everything that's transmitted, they know. We do need to remind them of who's the boss. And as long as there's a Constitution, We the People will.
PS: To H20 Man, who long ago reminded me of this story on Democratic Underground, and to my brothers and sisters on DU over the decades.
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)TeamProg
(6,145 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Why else would keep them?
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)That is pretty darn close to the same description in this WaPo article from February.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/25/trump-oversight-records/
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And we know the fate of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg.
COL Mustard
(5,906 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Trumps Roy Cohn. Perfected the art of hiding his own lawbreaking behind the shield of anti communism when he helped prosecute the Rosenbergs.
Roy Cohn Condemned the Rosenbergs as Soviet Spies. Their Granddaughter Just Made a Film About Him.
Ivy Meeropol, the director of Bully. Coward. Victim., discusses the life of the Trump mentor who remains one of America's most infamous villains.
By Gabrielle Bruney
Esquire, JUN 18, 2020
When filmmaker Ivy Meeropol was in college, she and her father Michael Meeropol visited the AIDS Memorial Quilt on the National Mall. The quilt features tens of thousands of panels memorializing AIDS victims, but the first they chanced upon was one dedicated to the memory of Roy Cohn. Three words were stitched beneath his name: Bully, Coward, and Victim.
For those who, like Meeropol, grew up in a solidly leftist environment, Cohn, an architect of the Red Scare, friend of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, and a thoroughly unscrupulous power broker, is a familiar villain. Hes the poster child for venal hypocrisy and shameless crueltya gay, Jewish man who ruined lives by tarring Jews and homosexuals as communists while serving as chief counsel to Senator Joseph McCarthys investigations committee, a lawyer for mobsters and purveyor of political dirty tricks.
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Cohn was just 23 when his role as a prosecutor in the Rosenberg trial made him a nationally-known figure. Electrical engineer Julius and his secretary wife Ethel were native New Yorkers who met in the Young Communist league in the 1930s, and were arrested in 1950. In a trial riddled with prosecutorial misconduct, the Rosenbergs were convicted of passing to Russia secrets of the atomic bomb. One of their allies later confessed that Julius did commit espionagebut historians generally agree that the information he relayed was not at all crucial to Soviet bomb-building efforts. Alan Dershowitz, a true Trump-era Forrest Gump, says in the film that Cohn told him the trial amounted to fram[ing] guilty people.
But Ethel was almost certainly innocent. Her brother and spy ring co-conspirator David Greenglass testified during the trial that his sister was involved in the plot, but later recanted his account, saying that, with Cohns encouragement, he lied to spare his own wife and family. Unlike everyone else involved in the spying operation, Ethel was never given a codename. Still, Cohn boasted in his autobiography that when trial judge Irving Kaufman, torn over whether or not to sentence Ethel to death, called him for advice, he urged the judge to condemn her. The way I see it, he told Kaufman, she is worse than Julius.
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https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a32894716/roy-cohn-bully-coward-victim-documentary-julius-ethel-rosenberg-true-story/
Hoisted on his own Roy Cohn.
COL Mustard
(5,906 posts)If I were ever found with even ONE goddam document like that in my home...I would be in Leavenworth for life. And I don't mean the USDB.
Joinfortmill
(14,435 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,530 posts)Many DU folks probably know this, however, for those who do not, let's talk about SCI -- Sensitive Compartmented Information.
I served 30 years in the Army, retiring in the mid-1990's I was initially an infantry officer with two tours in Vietnam. As a result of wounds suffered in my second tour, at about the 15 year point I could no longer keep up with the demands of infantry service and the Army allowed me to transfer to the Military Intelligence branch. I volunteered for and went through some interesting training and spent the rest of my 15 years assigned outside the Army to another executive branch agency.
Information is classified because it needs to be protected. If it is revealed publicly, or if our adversaries get hold of it, the loss of this info can cause some level of damage to us. Classified information is classified as CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, or TOP SECRET with the classifications depending upon the degree of damage that could be done by the loss of that info.
There is another world above TOP SECRET and that is SCI. Compartmented Information means exactly that -- the information and more important the SOURCE of that information is so sensitive that only a few people are trusted with the knowledge of that info. SCI is also called CODE WORD information because the TOP SECRET marking is followed by a word or words. It is not unusual in the TS/SCI world for two people to be working at desks side-by-side and neither of them is "read on" for the compartment that the other is working on.
SCI information is protected mainly because of the source -- we cannot let anyone know how we know this.
Let's take a for instance. Let's assume that a foreign leader wants to do harm to us and to our friends. Assume also this guy has a group of ten close advisors. And let's assume that over the years, a US CIA agent has become either directly or indirectly close to one of these advisors -- and the CIA guy convinces the guy to report to him everything going on in the foreign leader's inner circle. That information would be classified TOP SECRET followed by a code word or words assigned to that source and that source only -- something like TOP SECRET DEEP THROAT (TS/DT). Only a very few people in the US government are allowed to read TS/DT information. TS/DT info is transmitted over special communications channels, sometimes only hand-carried from place to place. TS/DT has its own storage requirements -- some may even be marked BURN AFTER READING. TS/DT means it's coming from one person who is close to a certain foreign leader.
Several news outlets have reported that some of the material taken from Mar-A-Largo was so sensitive it could not be listed by title on the application for the search warrant or on the warrant. This tells me that Trump hauled out of the White House TS/SCI information from sensitive, protected sources.
Why would he do that? I believe that Trump was prepared to, or preparing to, or already had passed some of this info to someone (Putin ?). That someone would be interested in the fact of how we got this info. And if it's revealed that the source is one of his inner circle . . . . the inner circle would be smaller -- by one in a heartbeat.
We already know that Trump doesn't give a shit about sensitive information -- remember, on more than one occasion he ran off at the mouth in Oval Office meetings with the Russians and revealed information passed to us by Israeli intelligence, probably exposing at least one source.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-israel-intelligence-share-isis-mossad-spies-sergei-lavrov-kislyak-us-a8071086.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html
Who knows what he took away in document format and to whom he was shopping it.
I'm wondering if Trump's passing TS/SCI info to the Saudis had anything to do with Jared getting a $2 billion investment from the Saudis.
What we are looking at here is treason at the highest level of the US government.
czarjak
(11,278 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)Anyone who's been reading the Village Voice since the 1970's knows the name Wayne Barrett, the Voice's early investigative reporter.
Mr. Barrett sadly passed away just as Chump was running for President, but he had accumulated a massive amount of information on Donald Chump and the Chump Organization since the early 70's when Chump was still a young man with no political aspirations. Mr. Barrett published frequent articles in The Village Voice on all the shady dealings and near-crimes of Chump as a young man. Here's one example from 1979: (link) https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/02/28/the-dirty-deal-that-helped-make-donald-trump/ (There are many others!)
Whether or not Chump was an "agent" of Russia/USSR doesn't matter. He was doing land-office business with them, and coaching Russian oligarchs on how to create shady/fake Delaware holding companies in order to buy his properties in New York under a fake name WAY BEFORE he ever thought of running for President. He made $ millions on each and every sale. That's why he loved the Russians so much. The Russians made a point of bragging about owning a condo in Trump Towers.
Chump kept flopping on his other entrepreneur ideas such as Trump Vodka, Trump Airlines, the football empire, Trump University, Trump Steaks - you name it, he failed at it. But that didn't stop the Russians from giving him billions of dollars to buy his condos and hotel rooms in New York, New Jersey and eventually South Florida.
Even if you haven't followed Wayne Barrett, then maybe you recognize the name David Cay Johnston? Mr. Johnston is another investigative reporter who inherited the files from his friend Wayne Barrett upon his death. Mr. Johnston has published many articles and books investigating Chump's dirty/illegal dealings, secret tax filings (to hide income), and contacts with Russians during his 2016 campaign.
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)Exxon gets access to Russian oil fields
Russia gets a gas pipeline through Syria
The Saudis get restricted nuclear technology
Trump as broker gets access and cash
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)Do not give TFG that much credit, at heart he is a dolt, born into money
kentuck
(111,104 posts)Actually, even before that.
FrankChurchDem
(12,690 posts)1. Very sensitive intel/counterintel, like a NOC list.
2. Very sensitive tech info, black box, well beyond B-21 and next gen fighter
3. Full blown X-files scenario regarding intelligent life beyond Earth
slightlv
(2,823 posts)like everyone else, and with all the comments... but one thing I've seen no one else mention... so maybe it's so out in left field it's too totally stupid to consider?
But this past weekend, *Rump was at CPAC with Orban. Wanna bet where maybe some of those missing papers might have gone? Especially with as badly as Tucker and the Magats wanna remake the U.S.A into Hungary 2.0 with *Rump as Orban Dynasty 2.0 for life?
Like I said... I've not seen anyone else talk about it... it just seemed so coincidental in timing to me to NOT have mentioned it. But it's probably so far out into left field... and that's usually where I'm at! (LOL)
niyad
(113,365 posts)AKwannabe
(5,666 posts)He is not smart enough to be a spy.
Hes kompromat! He owes the Russians and has to PAY them with something cuz he has only fake $$$$
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)This is the first time that I've felt that he might actually find himself living in federal housing in a few years.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Putin fanboy bought and sold ten times over.
If true, treat this piece of shit accordingly.
Nixie
(16,954 posts)BS! Plus, it resonates because it does have a factual basis considering the past investigations.
My husband is going to use it on a coworker who is a rabid Trumper. That should shut him up. Tell him Trump is a national security threat!
niyad
(113,365 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Operate after exiting the machinery:
librechik
(30,674 posts)Between Trump, Putin and Satan
Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)They shared Roy Cohn.
niyad
(113,365 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Major plastic surgery.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,913 posts)Its a different and very demented dimension that exists between the ears of the true Big Lie believers.
A professional hypnotist tried to warn us. Doesnt let corporate mass media off the hook, neither. How the Demented Dumpo did it:
Hypnotist Richard Barker Shows How Trumpnosis, Donald Trump's Form of Covert Hypnosis, Affects Millions Around the World
NEWS PROVIDED BY
Richard Barker, Incredible Hypnotist
Mar 29, 2016, 08:35 ET
ORLANDO, Fla., March 29, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- Hypnotist Richard Barker has just released research surrounding mass hypnosis and has coined the phrase "Trumpnosis".
Trumpnosis.com has been receiving lots of interest as of late. Covert hypnosis means having access to people's subconscious mind and altering the way they behave and think in a disguised or somewhat hidden way. Some popular covert hypnosis techniques used to align someone's behavior and thoughts to the desired outcome of the hypnotists are displayed during mass hypnosis.
Barker typically refers to mass hypnosis as "Trumpnosis", since he states, "Mr. Trump displays it so well". The media have also made comments regarding the Hypnotizing of a nation and questioned what is happening to America. Through the words and actions of an individual, can we influence and suggest a nation to think a certain way? Richard Barker who is known as the 'Incredible Hypnotist' thinks so. Barker said, "Everything we do and see must first start with a thought process. We don't see the world; we think it. If your thoughts are influenced by a master Hypnotist to think in a certain way on a mass level, this is 'Trumpnosis'".
Mass Hypnotism can apply to everything and be everywhere in families, in schools and in politics. The influence and use of repetition on crowds is identified through Mr. Trump's speeches and is seen to influence even the most enlightened minds. The power is due to the fact that the repeated statements are embedded in those profound regions of our subconscious mind.
Donald Trump successfully uses techniques such as pacing and leading, anchoring, verbal confusion, repetition and so on. He successfully bypasses the critical factor in minds of some people and has the ability to turn off the rational thinking. By using certain words and behavior, a speaker can very quickly establish a rapport with an audience. Repeated exposure to the same speaker can result in them being viewed with admiration, bordering on worship. Every word uttered is accepted as the complete truth.
Through the words he has used, both now and in the past, he has placed others into a hypnotic state without them knowing," says Barker. "Trump's speeches contains hypnosis techniques of hypnotic anchoring, pacing and leading, critical factor bypass and so on."
Hypnotist Richard Barker insists, "All you need to remember is that most people's needs are based on their instincts. Understanding people's instincts, especially in a mass gathering, is one of the key goals of mass hypnosis. Trumpnosis is a vehicle for enabling large groups of people to have an altered belief system."
Richard Barker is a World Renowned Professional Hypnotist. He has spent the last 20 years working with thousands of clients across the world. Richard Barker has recently appeared on NBC's The Today Show, CBS' The Late Late Show with James Corden, FOX's Good Day LA and News channels for FOX and ABC http://incrediblehypnotist.com
He has written a new book focusing on Persuasion and Suggestion titled, "Selling Hypnotically. The Art Of Suggestion" http://sellinghypnotically.com
Source (press release for news, public use distribution and publication): https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hypnotist-richard-barker-shows-how-trumpnosis-donald-trumps-form-of-covert-hypnosis-affects-millions-around-the-world-300242345.html