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Nevilledog

(51,170 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:18 PM Aug 2022

Salt Lake County council member tells Kamala Harris fetuses are not part of women's bodies



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Salt Lake County council member Dave Alvord says unborn babies are not part of a mother’s body because the umbilical cord and placenta do not connect directly to the woman.

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Salt Lake County Council member Dave Alvord faced a social media pile-on after tweeting that babies are not connect to pregnant women.
2:32 PM · Aug 10, 2022


https://www.sltrib.com/news/2022/08/10/salt-lake-county-council-member/

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Alvord made the initial comment Saturday morning in response to a tweet from Harris saying women should be able to make decisions about their own bodies without interference from the government.

“The baby is not part of the body of a woman,” Alvord responded in a tweet. “The umbilical cord and placenta do not directly connect to the woman. The baby floats inside the woman. It is not about the woman’s body, it’s to kill then remove the baby’s body. It is done in greater proportion to black babies.”

The placenta develops in and attaches to the walls of the uterus during pregnancy, providing oxygen and nutrients to fetuses. The umbilical cord connects the baby to the placenta. Babies do not “float” inside mothers.

The former South Jordan mayor appeared to stand by his comments Tuesday night, responding online to another Twitter user that “the placenta does not, technically, belong to the mother,” along with a link to an Insider.com story about the organ.

Alvord’s original tweet went ignored for days, but drew social media scrutiny after it was shared by Salt Lake Tribune columnist Robert Gehrke and Tribune reporter Bryan Schott.

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Salt Lake County council member tells Kamala Harris fetuses are not part of women's bodies (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2022 OP
Oh, god, the stupidity! sakabatou Aug 2022 #1
It's criminal how these assholes so not have even MontanaMama Aug 2022 #2
Dave, you ignorant turd gratuitous Aug 2022 #3
Just plain stupid. How does he find his way to Biophilic Aug 2022 #4
Well his dick is not part of his body, so maybe he doesn't need to. Lochloosa Aug 2022 #6
Darts & Flares? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #5
What an effing moron. The stupid, it really hurts. Hekate Aug 2022 #7
So are these new fangled Wi-Fi fetuses? Nevilledog Aug 2022 #10
Hairsplitting when it suits them, maxsolomon Aug 2022 #8
.... CatWoman Aug 2022 #9
Apparently his brain, such as it is, is not connected to anything. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #11
Blood cells are not "connected" to the body. OilemFirchen Aug 2022 #12
Brains are not part of Republican's heads. milestogo Aug 2022 #13
That explains MuseRider Aug 2022 #18
It's one thing to be ignorant of something. Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #14
Until it's viable on its own, a fetus is just a parasite. Woman's choice what to do with it. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #15
You got that right. Delmette2.0 Aug 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Delmette2.0 Aug 2022 #29
Pulled that one right out of his ass. Emile Aug 2022 #16
Doncha just love it MuseRider Aug 2022 #17
So says the guy who believes "floating" is not intercourse Generic Brad Aug 2022 #19
So basic biology is not a required subject in Utah? Retrograde Aug 2022 #20
What a fucking idiot malaise Aug 2022 #21
If it's not part of a woman's body, what is it? Is it a parasite? patphil Aug 2022 #22
Alrighty, then. piddyprints Aug 2022 #23
Then if that fetus dies, the mother can not be held responsible, since it was independent from her. sinkingfeeling Aug 2022 #24
I'm wondering what his wife thinks about this statement.. Deuxcents Aug 2022 #25
Are these humans? spanone Aug 2022 #26
These idiots know *nothing* about women's bodies or pregnancy, but they feel empowered to tblue37 Aug 2022 #27
"No uterus - no opinion" FakeNoose Aug 2022 #30

MontanaMama

(23,334 posts)
2. It's criminal how these assholes so not have even
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:21 PM
Aug 2022

a basic understanding of a woman’s reproductive system.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Dave, you ignorant turd
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:21 PM
Aug 2022

And you presume to write laws telling people what medical treatment they can and cannot access?

Biophilic

(3,686 posts)
4. Just plain stupid. How does he find his way to
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:22 PM
Aug 2022

The toilet in the morning. Just plain stupid. Do they ever listen to themselves?

maxsolomon

(33,360 posts)
8. Hairsplitting when it suits them,
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:29 PM
Aug 2022

Absolutism when it suits them. They can't lose, because they argue from both directions.

A woman GROWS the baby in the womb. Makes the placenta, makes the umbilical cord, shares her blood, her oxygen, etc etc ad infinitum.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
12. Blood cells are not "connected" to the body.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:34 PM
Aug 2022

Nor is oxygen.

He should purge them from his earthen vessel post haste lest these alien entities consume him.

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
14. It's one thing to be ignorant of something.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:35 PM
Aug 2022

Everyone of us can think of something we don't know much about.

But it's totally another thing to start stating something as fact without checking first to see if it is, indeed, fact. It actually shows a high level of arrogance to think no one will question you.

Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #15)

MuseRider

(34,115 posts)
17. Doncha just love it
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:39 PM
Aug 2022

when someone who does not know anything and does not care to even check it out or does not care and thinks no one else will question him is in a position to make you use your own body in a way you do not want to because of the errors he will not check? To confine you to being confined when you do not wish to be. Can you even imagine the screaming and howling if the tables were turned? I remember once when someone on another site I used to visit thought that maybe we should find a way to regulate what men did with their bodies. It would not have assigned them a life long commitment like having a baby does but it would restrict their bodies for a small time. You would have thought someone had lit their privates on fire.

Big fucking, stupid babies always trying to be the big men they think they are and still think we will let them get by with making stuff like this up.

Retrograde

(10,145 posts)
20. So basic biology is not a required subject in Utah?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:45 PM
Aug 2022

This is basic stuff common to all placental mammals: embryos and fetuses are attached to the mothers' wombs via the placenta and are nourished by her circulatory system. Works the same way no matter if we're talking about mice, cats, dogs, horses, tigers, whales, or humans.

Of course he's making ignorant rules about women's reproductive health: if he actually knew and understood what he was talking about he wouldn't be a Republican.

(I wonder why he thinks he has a navel: is this where god poked him in the womb to see if he was done yet?)

piddyprints

(14,644 posts)
23. Alrighty, then.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 07:59 PM
Aug 2022

Not part of her body? It’s a parasite. Remove it if she wants it removed.

I wish we could hammer home the argument that no other circumstance forces anyone to save the life of anyone else, even after death. Only pregnant women are forced into that, even when the “life” is only potential. Women have fewer rights than corpses.

Deuxcents

(16,298 posts)
25. I'm wondering what his wife thinks about this statement..
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 08:45 PM
Aug 2022

Or any other family members who can become pregnant. Are there any?

tblue37

(65,477 posts)
27. These idiots know *nothing* about women's bodies or pregnancy, but they feel empowered to
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:02 PM
Aug 2022

base draconian laws on their ignorance.

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